Pein Rikudou & Madara Uchiha

[Shodaime]

First question: If Rikudou is pein's ultimate form when all six come together, whats gonna happen now that there are seven including Jiraiya?

Second Question: If pein's eyes are to be the strongest eye techniue then why would he take orders from Madara? (I think there more partners than bosses, but id like to see there fight... it'd prob go down to the end)

Third Question: The shinobi world must be weakening or something because if Madara is like a shinobi god and he lost to the first that goes to show how strong the hokage position was; but now tsunade is hokage and she wouldn't stand a chance against Madara just like Jiraiya to pein. So my question is do u think Kishi is weakening characters to make naruto's goal seem more possible?

 

[Anaujiram]

lol

I dont think Madara's EMS is stronger than the Rin'negan.
Because the first beat Madara, and Rikodou was the best shinobi ever, and Pein got same eye technique (doujutsu) like Rikodou so Pein should be the strongest.. Not Madara... :headband:

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper">i think the rinnegan is stronger than the EMS, Pein maybe taking orders from maadara cuz he needs his help with rounding up the bijuus and with the stature thingy. i think once all the bijuu's are caught we might see a split in akatsuki. Pein may try to takeover, even kill maadara but right now i dont know which is stronger the EMS or the rinnegan<br /> <br /> i also think that Pein true identity is rikoudu, i think he is an immortal and has a justu which allows him to takeover people's bodies once his old body dies.</div>

 

[Miggy69]

hmm not sure i think pein jus letting madara think he is in control for now but he will turn on him when he gets the chance

 

[zumorikato]

First question: If Rikudou is pein's ultimate form when all six come together, whats gonna happen now that there are seven including Jiraiya?

Second Question: If pein's eyes are to be the strongest eye techniue then why would he take orders from Madara? (I think there more partners than bosses, but id like to see there fight... it'd prob go down to the end)

Third Question: The shinobi world must be weakening or something because if Madara is like a shinobi god and he lost to the first that goes to show how strong the hokage position was; but now tsunade is hokage and she wouldn't stand a chance against Madara just like Jiraiya to pein. So my question is do u think Kishi is weakening characters to make naruto's goal seem more possible?

First Answer: We don know if Rikudou is Pains ultimate form, that is an assumption, secondly, we also dont know if Pain really used Jiraiya's body, remember J's body sunk to the bottom of the see, river?

Second Answer: I have already explained in other threads why I think Pain is taking orders from Madara, but I will do it here again. Pain have alternative motives as to Madara, he only wants to use Madara to help extracting the Bijuus and it is rumored that he can control the 9 tails, we know he summoned it and can speak to him. And Pain only wants the Bijuu's to create the ultimate Jitsu, there after Madara is toast.

Third Answer: The 1st Hokage was extremely strong, he created Kohona. Kohona is in a bit of disadvantage regarding skilled fighters at the moment, but you are underestimating Naruto, just like all his previous opponents!!!! He is a lot stronger than what people are making him to be. He almost screwed Oro, and sent him to his death bed, where Sasuke only needed to finish him of. Dont underestimate Naruto.

 

[pein87]

The naruto thing is good we still dont know what "that jutsu" is that j-man told him not to use or what else he was taught.I think Kishimotto will save that for future battles.Pein should be stronger since the rinnegain gave him the ability to use what ever jutsu he wonted and since he could do that at age 10 he should have some nice jutsu and Madara can use all 6 nature manipulations and we dont even know what the doujutsu of the rennigan is. Remeber doujutsu mean pupil technique and we havent seen his yet just the 6 paths.

 

[HokagePein]

1st thing im going to have to assume that the one body Jiraiya defeated at the end is definitely alive cause Jiraiya killed 3 of them but they all came back as if nothing happened.\

2nd Im almost certain theres a reason why Pein is currently listening to Madara whether its because of the 9tails control ability or because of that damn fast Jutsu

3rd He lost that battle but won in the end cause he is still alive maybe some consider that a curse ,now i just need to see what his intentions are because the 1st is dead so who to get revenge on? The 2nd is dead which was his brother , the Uchiha clan is wiped out and for anyone who has Senju blood in them is definitely no threat what so ever to Madara, soo what could he possibly want with Sasuke a new body or a person to make just as strong as him to take over Konoha or destroy it??

 

[Cursed_sasuke]

1st thing im going to have to assume that the one body Jiraiya defeated at the end is definitely alive cause Jiraiya killed 3 of them but they all came back as if nothing happened.

didnt just defeat 1 of them ??

 

[Rokudou Sennin]

I'm pretty sure j man is alive cuz once i remember reading in the manga that he said that the toad oil had the ability to heal.And what did he sink into.

 

[Shodaime]

u right he does say it i tink the toad gonna get him out in, u see when he was come to pein village he was inside the toad mouth i think he gonna enter in toad mouth again...take a look at those picture

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[Kimimaro Kaguya]

Hope J is still alive, was gutted when pein beat him but i guess it just leaves room for naruto to beat pein.

Thing that i dont understand is, is madara still really that powerful beacuse all we've seen so far is normal sharingan in one eye and the fact that he needed itachi to wipe out the Uchiha.

It doesnt really seem right that hes giving pein orders so you guys are probably right, just using madara for the comtrol of the kyuubi

 

[HokagePein]

he did the genjutsu and put 3 swords through the 1st three he encountered and walked away thinking he won the battle then the others came and all 6 were standing like nothing happened

 

[Shodaime]

i think j man not dead

 

[Madara Uchiha]

First question: If Rikudou is pein's ultimate form when all six come together, whats gonna happen now that there are seven including Jiraiya?

Second Question: If pein's eyes are to be the strongest eye techniue then why would he take orders from Madara? (I think there more partners than bosses, but id like to see there fight... it'd prob go down to the end)

Third Question: The shinobi world must be weakening or something because if Madara is like a shinobi god and he lost to the first that goes to show how strong the hokage position was; but now tsunade is hokage and she wouldn't stand a chance against Madara just like Jiraiya to pein. So my question is do u think Kishi is weakening characters to make naruto's goal seem more possible?

Objection. The first didnt beat madara. last i checked madara is still alive and fooled the shinobi world by making them think he died by the firsts hands.\And did u get this off another site cuz suddenly ur grammar is somehow perfect again so thats a yes.

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

Madara Did Get Beaten By The 1st Hokage But Madara Didn't Die..
About The 1st Question..Pein Will Not Use The Body Of J-MAN-PERV(LOL) Because Its Been Sunk In The Abyss Of That Lake Or Something..
But For Me I Hope J-MAN-PERV Is Still Alive..Somehow I Like His Character..XD

 

[Steinbiz]

Objection. The first didnt beat madara. last i checked madara is still alive and fooled the shinobi world by making them think he died by the firsts hands.\And did u get this off another site cuz suddenly ur grammar is somehow perfect again so thats a yes.

lol i just don't know why your so in denile when someone says something true about madara and it's a negative comment.

like first DIDN'T beat madara?, oh ok i guess kishi is wrong hes just playing with us.

 

[Emperor]

First question: If Rikudou is pein's ultimate form when all six come together, whats gonna happen now that there are seven including Jiraiya?

Second Question: If pein's eyes are to be the strongest eye techniue then why would he take orders from Madara? (I think there more partners than bosses, but id like to see there fight... it'd prob go down to the end)

Third Question: The shinobi world must be weakening or something because if Madara is like a shinobi god and he lost to the first that goes to show how strong the hokage position was; but now tsunade is hokage and she wouldn't stand a chance against Madara just like Jiraiya to pein. So my question is do u think Kishi is weakening characters to make naruto's goal seem more possible?

first question: now that the asura body is desttroyed there are only six
second question: maybe its a genjutsu or maybe he has pain;s real body and is blackmailing him
third question: very possibly

 

[6th hokage]

Objection. The first didnt beat madara. last i checked madara is still alive and fooled the shinobi world by making them think he died by the firsts hands.\And did u get this off another site cuz suddenly ur grammar is somehow perfect again so thats a yes.

yo, u r insulting person with their grammar, u r not much better either. there IS a difference between 'beaten' and 'killed'. 1st did beat madara(+kuybi) to the pulp, he didnt kill, bcos he thought he was already dead. SUCH WAS THE BEATING.

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be in a state of denial. nobody really cares.

 

[c1bj]

First question: If Rikudou is pein's ultimate form when all six come together, whats gonna happen now that there are seven including Jiraiya?

Second Question: If pein's eyes are to be the strongest eye techniue then why would he take orders from Madara? (I think there more partners than bosses, but id like to see there fight... it'd prob go down to the end)

Third Question: The shinobi world must be weakening or something because if Madara is like a shinobi god and he lost to the first that goes to show how strong the hokage position was; but now tsunade is hokage and she wouldn't stand a chance against Madara just like Jiraiya to pein. So my question is do u think Kishi is weakening characters to make naruto's goal seem more possible?

your right, I keep telling people that Madara and Pein are also more like Partners rather than Boss and subordinate.

About your third question, I believe that he is not intentionally making characters weaker, its just that the 1st Hokage lived in a time of war, and in the present time they are coming off a transition into peace, so naturally the Hokage position has transitioned as well. Tsunade is probably the most powerful ninja in Konohagakure at this point, and we still havent seen everything she can do, but she also is in that position to make good decisions.

Good theory though

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[Madara Uchiha]

yo, u r insulting person with their grammar, u r not much better either. there IS a difference between 'beaten' and 'killed'. 1st did beat madara(+kuybi) to the pulp, he didnt kill, bcos he thought he was already dead. SUCH WAS THE BEATING.

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be in a state of denial. nobody really cares.

Im not insulting him. Im stating that his grammar suddenly became good but whenever he posts its horrible. And tell me, whats wrong with my grammar?
And my comment was from a LONG time ago, I dont know why your even bothering replying to it. :/ People change their views. And we don't know what happened in their fight so you can't say that. To the pulp? I doubt that but ok, you have a right to your opinion.

If nobody cared why would you even bother commenting?