[Game] Peaky Blinders Mafia Game Thread #24

[Ansatsuken]

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First of all, we lost Arthur Shelby and Finn Shelby, this is very hard times we live in my brothers and sisters. Let's take a moment of silence for such loss.

Now, that's out of the way let's get into the real business. The only people I want to see in the hanging list is the following. Rej, Ansa, Eph, Mr.Lonely and PK. If I see anyone voting for anyone outside of these 5. Then you will have to answer to me. The end of last DP was straight up complete clusterfuck. Everything was all over the place and I thought people would be able to see that TSQ was acting out of townie frustration. Yet, people placed their vote on him and quite frankly it's TSQ fault for being all over the place but his irrational actions should by itself been an indicator.

We lost Michelle this NP. I heavily disliked Ephermeral interaction with michelle and how he thought she could possibly be scum. Her death could very much might an attempt to frame the guy. I don't think if he was scum he would put himself in such situation and I get the genuine feeling from his posts. Due to the two points I just mentioned i was not gonna include him in the main suspect players above, but some things came into my attention that made me place him there as well. However, some people actions like rej and ansa made me keep the dude in the suspect list which I will describe down below.

Let's start with the guy I have my vote on rej. Honestly, he was not in my target in DP1 but then I saw how he dealt with the cluster **** situation. He jumped off the votes between EPH to TSQ when both of them were tie. I felt like he enjoyed the chaos going around. By him breaking the tie he saved EPH and if rej is scum then he could potentially saved his partner in crime eph why would he break a tie if it was not to save his scum partner? you could state that he might be townie who went for the one who is more suspicious but quite frankly both eph and tsq were not in a very nice situation at all, he could of easily left it for random and allowed luck to decide but he did not. He made a post during this DP that I very much dislike. Alice called him out about him being scum and he replied to her stating that alice could potentially be scum. Now that made me pause for a second, how the **** can you even throw mud alice way and tell her that she might be scum? i don't care what anyone says but alice for me right now is hard locked townie. If she flips scum for whatever reason then kudos to her and I will admit that I fucked up. It felt like "oh you think i am scum? well guess what? i think you might be scum too!". He went and casted his vote on best at one point during DP1 and his vote on ansa could literally be w/w distancing. Another post he made regarding PK is that he agrees with his 2 other suspect which is in that case is eph and me. It does not strike me like he is genuinely trying to catch scum. I will pressure the shit out of this guy and will see where we will go with it.

Ansa, I don't know about you folks, but ansa seems off to me this game. The dude had 3 main suspects in DP1 and the reason he gave for suspecting these players applied for so many other players. He seemed very careful on who to place his vote on and felt like he was changing his mind on the fly. The reasons he had against Mr.Lonely for me felt stronger but went for EPH or TSQ which had the same reason if my memory serves me right and are weaker candidate than Mr.Lonely, he seems very careful to create a case and push like the townie ansa I know. Not sure that when ansa voted he knew that rej already broke the tie. I don't know i have a feeling ansa should of known that TSQ frustration was townie frustration. After both me and imperfection voted for rej he possibly could of taken this opportunity to join the wagon and bust his team mate for some townie credit.

Eph, tunneled TSQ to oblivion and his reads and the way he approached michelle toward end of DP1 was hella suspicious. Michelle dying makes me take a step back and not place my vote on the guy cause then it would be way too obvious. I feel like the scum kill was purposefully trying to frame the guy and get him mislynched. However, I have him in my list because if rej is scum then he purposely broke the tie to save his scum mate. Same thing can be applied for ansa, if ansa did not know that rej voted then he also purposely broke the tie to save EPH.

Mr.Lonely, did nothing to contribute and made baseless posts, did not scum hunt and feels like he is keeping low profile. I saw townie Mr.Lonely and had way better vibes to him and made really good posts.

PK, is a tricky one but i have a feeling the dude might be scum, he made couple of posts beginning of DP1 about him catching and when he did 10+ pages in he provided absolutely nothing. When he was pushed by TSQ he started getting active and his reads and posts felt like it only centered around the person pressuring him which was TSQ. He made a post this DP about his suspects and his reason for me is very iffy. Stating that i did some shenanigans that caused the chaos last DP? if anything my interaction with TSQ should of been sufficient for people that TSQ is very possible not scum due to his burst of frustration. It feels like throwing a mud in my way just for the sake of it.

Now the concern I have here is that the players I mentioned have each other as their suspects. PK has rej and eph as his suspects, Ansa has PK, Mr.Lonely, and Rej as his suspects and removed Eph from there for some reason. Not sure on eph suspects yet don't think he presented his yet. But you see the trend? these people have each other as suspects. Ansa interacted with eph quite frequently and vice versa is it w/w interaction? or is it w/t interaction? it can't be that all scum are pointing fingers at one another which makes me believe that the chances of scum being in this group is very high. By catching the scum among the list we can easily either clear players or confirm players if they are scum or not. I have a feeling that rej might not be scum because of TSQ statement saying that rej could is townie and he elaborated that he can't explain why at that moment and TSQ is in the after life right now. My vote might change among those players I mentioned and hopefully i land at the right decision by the end of this DP. Please, I want people to interact with this post and give me their thoughts.

I'm not a perfect player. I rarely can get my scum hunting right in DP1. My read always off. Like in the previous game I nearly lynched Red that would cause a mislynch. TSQ was very clever.

This game is no exception. TSQ and Rej made me really uncomfortable with their behavior near the end of DP1. But TSQ gave me the most feeling.

But right now I believe Rej could be scum besides Lonely. Compared to me Rej never showed he's very serious. I don't think he read all of TSQ's post to know him closely and in more detailed. Get the vibes from reading TSQ back and forths with you. He looked very happy and careless

 

[Sagebee]

Seems the votes are going to rej which I'm not against even if hes town I cant trust him and hasnt been positively productive in the game.

Of the names I listed earlier I'm most comfortable with lynchs going to pk and rej.

Ansat doesnt seem overly into pushing lynchs so my suss of him is a bit less.

And ephmeral might be another case of the status quo with town self sabotaging and since my first time playing with them I'll give them more of a chance to prove themselves.

My suss of rej is obvious pk doesnt seem to sincerely find scum and I wanted to see which would try to benefit from Michelle's death which he did which makes him look worse to me

vote lynch: pk

 

[xEphemeralx]

I'm not a perfect player. I rarely can get my scum hunting right in DP1. My read always off. Like in the previous game I nearly lynched Red that would cause a mislynch. TSQ was very clever.

This game is no exception. TSQ and Rej made me really uncomfortable with their behavior near the end of DP1. But TSQ gave me the most feeling.

But right now I believe Rej could be scum besides Lonely. Compared to me Rej never showed he's very serious. I don't think he read all of TSQ's post to know him closely and in more detailed. Get the vibes from reading TSQ back and forths with you. He looked very happy and careless

I can't get behind how you're able to confidently SR mr.lonely

He has like 2 posts or something wtf

 

[xEphemeralx]

That's not true I dont only ask questions but give input even before my questioning.

Reasoning i didn't want to go first on giving thoughts is i wanted to see if i could get useful info from asking seems some players playing possum this phase which is interesting.

That's a hella convenient excuse

Could go either way depending on what you do this phase

 

[Sagebee]

Also I second best and maybe even mr lonely getting modkilled or switched

 

[Sagebee]

That's a hella convenient excuse

Could go either way depending on what you do this phase

Dony see how it being convenient but okay

Again I feel your being unnecessarily contrarian that's not leading to anything fruitful which makes me think are you doing it for a look pr something which makes me suss you.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I remember liking Kyte D1, don't really remember why which could be a bad sign or simply goldfish memory, he also hasn't posted yet D2 which is kiiinda weird, I'll look over his D1 again and come back to him

Obviously not familiar with Sage's meta so I dunno what to tell you there, just what I gathered from his approach as I saw it

As for the votes on Rej, that's more or less where I was at, it picked up a bit too quickly, I think Imperfection is pure but Ansa just kind of piggybacked off of Imperfection's case on him to put a quick vote

Whether there's any merit to Imperfection not putting down a vote until after you did so yourself, I don't know. But I'm holding onto my TR of Imperfection for the time being

I have my own reason to believe why Rej could be scum. Just search for my comment to Sagebee's request to know about Michelle death in the previous night. I'm not piggybacking anyone for my decision making.

You are not yet clear either Eph. I may drop PK and put you back in my PoE. Only time.

 

[Sagebee]

I also want to say I dony 100% trust imperfect aswell a part of me has some suss on him that he feigned inexperience and disinterest for a strategy so I just everyone not 100% trust him either.

 

[Premfection]

Seems the votes are going to rej which I'm not against even if hes town I cant trust him and hasnt been positively productive in the game.

Of the names I listed earlier I'm most comfortable with lynchs going to pk and rej.

Ansat doesnt seem overly into pushing lynchs so my suss of him is a bit less.

And ephmeral might be another case of the status quo with town self sabotaging and since my first time playing with them I'll give them more of a chance to prove themselves.

My suss of rej is obvious pk doesnt seem to sincerely find scum and I wanted to see which would try to benefit from Michelle's death which he did which makes him look worse to me

vote lynch: pk

I get your point because a lot of suspicion seems off of PK now, but I dont think that's a direct influence of Michelle getting killed, more of a side effect of all the attention going on rej now it seems. I do think that PK is suspicious, I just dont think that we have a whole lot on them now at least compared to rej.

 

[Sagebee]

I get your point because a lot of suspicion seems off of PK now, but I dont think that's a direct influence of Michelle getting killed, more of a side effect of all the attention going on rej now it seems. I do think that PK is suspicious, I just dont think that we have a whole lot on them now at least compared to rej.

My point with Michelle was I wanted to say if someone would use her death to influence a lynch in some way which he did.

The person who killed michelle obviously knew michelle had confrontation with so iys likely that kill was done to benefit in some way its possible for rej to also benefit from that kill and use at as shield to say it cant be him.

 

[xEphemeralx]

Dony see how it being convenient but okay

Again I feel your being unnecessarily contrarian that's not leading to anything fruitful which makes me think are you doing it for a look pr something which makes me suss you.

What you define as "unnecessarily contrarian" is actually me pressuring slots I'm sussing/trying to solve

 

[Ansatsuken]

I can't get behind how you're able to confidently SR mr.lonely

He has like 2 posts or something wtf

Don't underestimate me boy. Because the possibility of scum in him exist. Cant rule that out. I'm going to keep my eyes on him.

 

[Sagebee]

What you define as "unnecessarily contrarian" is actually me pressuring slots I'm sussing/trying to solve

You got your answer from me what's the point in saying it's a convenient excuse

You made a claim that my posts consists just of me asking questions which is false.

No awknowledgement of this in my post but continue to throw dirt that's not unnecessarily contrarian?

 

[Sagebee]

@Elmage G Ace why did you disappear without contributing

Also I see you lurkers.

I'm out for the night I'll check back in later in the day hope to see some good discussions.

 

[-PK-]

Seems the votes are going to rej which I'm not against even if hes town I cant trust him and hasnt been positively productive in the game.

Of the names I listed earlier I'm most comfortable with lynchs going to pk and rej.

Ansat doesnt seem overly into pushing lynchs so my suss of him is a bit less.

And ephmeral might be another case of the status quo with town self sabotaging and since my first time playing with them I'll give them more of a chance to prove themselves.

My suss of rej is obvious pk doesnt seem to sincerely find scum and I wanted to see which would try to benefit from Michelle's death which he did which makes him look worse to me

vote lynch: pk

I did say I will contribute more after the night phase.
Besides Michelle's death didn't benefit me at all.

Seems the votes are going to rej which I'm not against even if hes town I cant trust him and hasnt been positively productive in the game.

Of the names I listed earlier I'm most comfortable with lynchs going to pk and rej.

Ansat doesnt seem overly into pushing lynchs so my suss of him is a bit less.

And ephmeral might be another case of the status quo with town self sabotaging and since my first time playing with them I'll give them more of a chance to prove themselves.

My suss of rej is obvious pk doesnt seem to sincerely find scum and I wanted to see which would try to benefit from Michelle's death which he did which makes him look worse to me

vote lynch: pk

Do tell what is your definition of sincere?

In first phase you all say I ain't contributing. Now that I do you say I am benefiting off Michelle's death. Lmao

 

[Kyte_]

Michelle have few players that she believes to be scum, Rej and Ephemeral.

Town think the kill is to frame the suspect player. Example of situation: Michelle suspecting Rej in the previous DP and Rej killed her at night". Rej defending himself by saying "the Night Kill is someone trying to frame me". So this statement undeniably able to put Townies in doubting state. It playing with their mind. It creates a doubt on the possibility of Rej who killed Best Michelle. The moment of unacceptance of unthinkable possibility in town.

So I believe the one who killed Michelle is her suspect, Rej or Ephemeral.

Bingo.

I was looking for a comment that states something along these lines. It does seem to me that the culprit has decided to throw us into a whirlpool of WIFOM logic, hoping that he'd drag the process of extracting him from within the suspicious triangle - xEph - Ansa - Rej, all affiliated to Michelle's case. We can only take the bait, but that won't happen.

I have to admit you've gained a slight town lean from me. However, it's also possible that the whole argument is misleading, and you're simply directing us to gauge the case in a way that only benefits your objectives. It might be a stretch, but I've done it as scum, I don't think why anyone else wouldn't do it.

 

[Kyte_]

Also, sorry if i was MIA at times.

I'm tryna go through all the posts at the moment, and I'd love to hear people's opinions on TSQ's lynch and the small farce that took place at the EoD, for the time being.
Especially from people who were inactive at the time, for example @SoulKiller

 

[Rej]

Hey guys. Voting me for the Michelle tizzy huh. I am sorry I am currently sick.
I am quite pessimistic right now and would need time to gain my optimism.
I will put myself in Michelles shoes and think that there is a person out there who could antagonize both me and Michelle.

SK
Ansa
Sage
Alice


One is mafia.
I still dont think xEphemeralx is as town as people want him to be town. He was one of Michs suspects.

vote lynch Ansatsuken

one of those who could profit from both me and Mich falling

 

[Ansatsuken]

Hey guys. Voting me for the Michelle tizzy huh. I am sorry I am currently sick.
I am quite pessimistic right now and would need time to gain my optimism.
I will put myself in Michelles shoes and think that there is a person out there who could antagonize both me and Michelle.

SK
Ansa
Sage
Alice


One is mafia.
I still dont think xEphemeralx is as town as people want him to be town. He was one of Michs suspects.

vote lynch Ansatsuken

one of those who could profit from both me and Mich falling

Looks who's here. You have left out imperfection. I don't know how you can say I'm profiting from you and Michelle fall down. Like you thinking Ansatsuken sees both players as a threat in DP1. It never true. Maybe other player that you have mistakenly believe is me. Or do you think I'm a serial killer? Killing both of you and profiting from it?? I think your pov has me as SK.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Which is never true. Keep making false accusations Rej