Orochimaru's true power, and the scroll.

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I know there are some similar threads on this but they are all doing such a bad job at explaining it, plus they are vague in certain aspects.

First off, a lot of people are under the mistake that Orochimaru gained his ability to use ninjutsu after he switched bodies since he uses Tripe Rashoumon and Striking Shadow Snakes in the second arc. The reason behind this is because Summoning Jutsu just require the hand seals during the original summoning, and once the contract is made, all you need is the blood and the hand placement on the ground/location. All of Orochimaru's moves after the first arc are all done without hand signs.



Notice Suigetsu makes a point of saying Sasuke was only able to beat Orochimaru because he could not use any jutsu due to his soul arms being sealed inside the Reaper Death Seal.

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On the next page he also asserts that even with his new body, Orochimaru won't be able to use his hands for Ninjutsu.

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Later he claims that he does not have the power to take Sasuke's body yet while he holds out his hands...

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After seeing Orochimaru's scroll, Sasuke realized he can now speak to the man that knows everything. Even if Orochimaru was to attain Sasuke's body, he'd still be unable to use Jutsu, so as a sealmaster Orochimaru's goal would be to break the Reaper Death Seal and gain his soul arms back. Sasuke realized this would be his chance to speak to Hashirama personally, and get an unbiased truth from the Hokages themselves since he has only heard the Uchiha side of things. Only the Hokages can answer his questions about the village, the clan, and what makes a shinobi. This is further re-enforced by when Orochimaru asks Sasuke why he wants to speak to THEM.

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Good job, very clear. It's actually the first thread that kind of convinced me that wanting to reawaken the Hokages is possible. It makes sense, because if Oro can find a way to get them out of the Death God then he can get his arms back too. +Rep
 

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That's not going to happen period break the dead demon seal lol hell noooo!! Orochimaru ain't gonna **** with the fourth hokages dead demon jutsu if you truly believe that you must be smokin some weird shit.
 

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I wonder how Orochimaru will act towards Hiruzen once he attains his arms back. Imagine Orochimaru stretches his eyelid and does a raspberry. O_O
 

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Good job, very clear. It's actually the first thread that kind of convinced me that wanting to reawaken the Hokages is possible. It makes sense, because if Oro can find a way to get them out of the Death God then he can get his arms back too. +Rep
His arms are still crippled?
 

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Yes, Orochimaru's arms are crippled because he does not have the soul portion to direct chakra with them. This means that any new body he possesses he can control like a puppet PHYSICALLY, but not the chakra network on the hands to perform ninjutsu hand seals. Notice Orochimaru used a lot of hand seal ninjutsu in the first arc, but zero in the second arc. His fight with Naruto only had Rashoumon Summoning, and puking techniques with his body replacement, Ten Thousand Snakes, and Kusanagi.
 

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Did you even read it?
Yeah. I read it and it doesn't say anything about bringing back Hashirama,tobirama,hiruzen,minato,shisui,sage of six paths,the sages two sons lmao that is some funny stuff where in the chapter did you see orochimaru saying "oh I got to get my arms back so I can obtain all my jutsus lol I don't think I've seen that lol
 

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Yes, Orochimaru's arms are crippled because he does not have the soul portion to direct chakra with them. This means that any new body he possesses he can control like a puppet PHYSICALLY, but not the chakra network on the hands to perform ninjutsu hand seals. Notice Orochimaru used a lot of hand seal ninjutsu in the first arc, but zero in the second arc. His fight with Naruto only had Rashoumon Summoning, and puking techniques with his body replacement, Ten Thousand Snakes, and Kusanagi.
Well then I see why he would want to undue the Death god seal jutsu.xd
 

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Good job, very clear. It's actually the first thread that kind of convinced me that wanting to reawaken the Hokages is possible. It makes sense, because if Oro can find a way to get them out of the Death God then he can get his arms back too. +Rep
That was just what I was thinking.
 

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is he learned how to reversed the shiki fujin, to get his arms from the belly of the shinigami? if that happen it had a potential to see the hokages in action once again. and kurama gaining half of his chakra that was sealed
 
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