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That's great , iron sand destroys the earth as well, it's one of the nifty traits covered in the databook
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He's too fast to be caught by half of those, could burrow under the ground for the other half, the water guns aren't even canon, etc. Anyway, we were taking it slow, I would link him with something, he'd give Sasori's counter to it then I'd give more ways Oro could win. Unfortunately we never made it past the first part sinc he can give no notable counter to itI agree Orochimaru would win but Manda taking him out you serious??? Manda isn't tanking none of these or Orochimaru hydra form.
Further than Manda can burrow? This never happened, and 3rd Kazekage puppet will be destroyed before he even start to spew the Iron Sand.
That's great , iron sand destroys the earth as well, it's one of the nifty traits covered in the databook
He's too fast to be caught by half of those, could burrow under the ground for the other half, the water guns aren't even canon, etc. Anyway, we were taking it slow, I would link him with something, he'd give Sasori's counter to it then I'd give more ways Oro could win. Unfortunately we never made it past the first part sinc he can give no notable counter to it
Further than Manda can burrow? This never happened, and 3rd Kazekage puppet will be destroyed before he even start to spew the Iron Sand.
can't you read i said Orochimaru would win , cannon the fire & water cannon are based on the same jutsu using sealing scrolls to contain elementsHe's too fast to be caught by half of those, could burrow under the ground for the other half, the water guns aren't even canon, etc. Anyway, we were taking it slow, I would link him with something, he'd give Sasori's counter to it then I'd give more ways Oro could win. Unfortunately we never made it past the first part sinc he can give no notable counter to it
Further than Manda can burrow? This never happened, and 3rd Kazekage puppet will be destroyed before he even start to spew the Iron Sand.
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Manda moves and the poison gas is all blown away, all Manda has to do is shut his jaws when he's near 3rd Kazekage, he won't do shit.
futher than manda can burrow? how far did you see manda burrow there kiddo? he was excreting right on the surface...And sure he will
not when sasori starts letting out poison gas
Yeah I know you did but if your points are still wrong and you're replying to me I'm still going to counter lolcan't you read i said Orochimaru would win
Yeah, but none of that stuff is really relevant to MandaThere's 3 things wrong with that bro
1. He can flying on his own and on iron sand just like gaara flies on his sand.
2.He can pull iron sand or gold dust from the earth
3.He was able to use Manipulate sand also
1.So how is manda going to jump so high while sasori is flying so far up high in the sky quick enough to catch sasori ???Manda moves and the poison gas is all blown away, all Manda has to do is shut his jaws when he's near 3rd Kazekage, he won't do shit.
Manda burrowed further than the Iron Sand World, that's all that matters, and Manda can just burrow further if need be.
Yeah I know you did but if your points are still wrong and you're replying to me I'm still going to counter lol
Yeah, but none of that stuff is really relevant to Manda
Because Manda is too fast to ever let that happen, if he tries to slowly spew Iron Sand out of his mouth then hop on platforms to fly up to the sky Manda will have already lunged and snapped his jaws on the 3rd Kazekage, much faster than he can do any of that stuff you listed. And as for underground, Sasori's never gathered minerals that way and only collected them by spraying it from the Kazekage's mouth, but I doubt it will be required much.1.So how is manda going to jump so high while sasori is flying so far up high in the sky quick enough to catch sasori ???
2. How the hell is he not going to get crush by Sand, Iron sand, & Gold dust going under-ground.
3. Jumping up trying to bite Sasori Manda jaw would get cut up n poisoned right away
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Because Manda is too fast to ever let that happen, if he tries to slowly spew Iron Sand out of his mouth then hop on platforms to fly up to the sky Manda will have already lunged and snapped his jaws on the 3rd Kazekage, much faster than he can do any of that stuff you listed. And as for underground, Sasori's never gathered minerals that way and only collected them by spraying it from the Kazekage's mouth, but I doubt it will be required much.
That's not entirely true. The databook explicitly points out that Sasori's stats vary from puppet to puppet.He's not faster Sasori speed is 4.5 in the data
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thers so much wrong with what you just said, 1st if you cant prove hes not imune to the poison you also cant prove he is , just cuz his body has poison doesnt mean he still cant get poisoned, FACT: a poisonest snake can still poison another even if they are both very toxic, plus dont you think sasori had specialy made his poison so no one could live trew it? i mean he did parther up with Oro bak in the daysm he could have studied his poison and imune system and made it so even he couldnt live trew it... but besides this whole poison crap, all Sasori has to do it use his Puppet Performance: Skilful Achievement with a Human Body jutsu, then not only will Oro be his bitch but all his skills and moves will be sasoris for his own use, he can then just drive a iron spear trew Oros heart and boom game over end of conversation , Sasori would have a new Snake puppet by the end of the day :scorps:So stop saying that he isn't imune if you can't prove it.
Don't compare orochimaru the expert in poison,his body is poison,his blood countain poison,he even made Sasuke imune to certain poison that he decided ,he know Tsunade pretty well so have a lot knowledge,he know from Kabuto ,he know Sasori better than anybody.
Don't bring Kakashi or anybody that has nothing to do there .
That was your last ressort by you failed again.
thers so much wrong with what you just said, 1st if you cant prove hes not imune to the poison you also cant prove he is , just cuz his body has poison doesnt mean he still cant get poisoned, FACT: a poisonest snake can still poison another even if they are both very toxic, plus dont you think sasori had specialy made his poison so no one could live trew it? i mean he did parther up with Oro bak in the daysm he could have studied his poison and imune system and made it so even he couldnt live trew it... but besides this whole poison crap, all Sasori has to do it use his Puppet Performance: Skilful Achievement with a Human Body jutsu, then not only will Oro be his bitch but all his skills and moves will be sasoris for his own use, he can then just drive a iron spear trew Oros heart and boom game over end of conversation , Sasori would have a new Snake puppet by the end of the day :scorps:
urm? you are arguing with me when i was saying oro isn't immune to his poison?
Including his own puppet body yes he's fast ,but what really sums it up in the databook for him is his ninjutsu from the puppets & probably the genjutsu .That's not entirely true. The databook explicitly points out that Sasori's stats vary from puppet to puppet.
Yeah that's fine, Orochimaru also has a 4.5 in speed and Manda was faster than either of them has shown especially in comparison to his size.Snap his jaws on the 3rd Kazekage puppet you know all of his ninja tools & puppets are douse in poison xd :rofl:
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He's not faster Sasori speed is 4.5 in the data
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Were you think the 3rd Kazekage got the idea from did you check the databook.
Yeah ,Sakura and Chiyo were both effectively also reacting and dodging to his attacks, Orochimaru is also a 4.5, and unfortunately the 3rd Kazekage puppet itself never displayed this kind of speed.Including his own puppet body yes he's fast ,but what really sums it up in the databook for him is his ninjutsu from the puppets & probably the genjutsu .
Sakura speed is 3 in the databook
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Look how fast he was able to his Sakura
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Chiyo is a 3.5
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Look at how fast he blitz at Chiyo a lady with her experience who took on Hanzo & Tsuande she wouldn't have been careless like that.
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Yeah that's fine, Orochimaru also has a 4.5 in speed and Manda was faster than either of them has shown especially in comparison to his size.
He can snap his jaws shut, poison weapons or not 3rd Kazekage puppet would die and it's a fair tradeoff.
Even if they did slice him and it was a matter of Manda surviving I doubt they'd do much to him, and poison affecting a regular human is much different than affecting a giant summon whose eye is as big as 5 people.
Yeah ,Sakura and Chiyo were both effectively also reacting and dodging to his attacks, Orochimaru is also a 4.5, and unfortunately the 3rd Kazekage puppet itself never displayed this kind of speed.
Why would you even link this, it only supports my point that anything we've ever seen on-panel of Orochimaru was of him weakened so here he should be even stronger, he's still 4.5 in speed and Hiruzen sealed his arms and his body was rejecting him? What does this have to do with anything other than how Orochimaru would win easier.Orochimaru body was all damaged from Hiruzen fight he wasn't at his full potential
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Really now poision won't effect a summoning :rofl:
Yeah, Chiyo proceeded to react just fine and Orochimaru is even faster. That page that you showed does nothing to suggest 3rd Kazekage escaping the range of Manda's jaws before he snaps them shut and kills the puppet.O really the 3rd Kazepuppet hasn't shown great speed lets see what chiyo had to say about that.
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poisons and virus are usual thrown in small amounts that spread and multiplies even if you give an elephant the same amount as a human it still gets poisoned probably takes longer to take effect but it still happens.Why would you even link this, it only supports my point that anything we've ever seen on-panel of Orochimaru was of him weakened so here he should be even stronger, he's still 4.5 in speed and Hiruzen sealed his arms and his body was rejecting him? What does this have to do with anything other than how Orochimaru would win easier.
I didn't say "hurr summoning is unaffected by poison". I said I'm not going to assume logically given the conditions that poison that affects a regular human will affect a gigantic summon 400 times bigger than a human. You think poison that kills humans will do more than be an inconvenience to an elephant? Size matters in this case, Manda's no slacker
Yeah, Chiyo proceeded to react just fine and Orochimaru is even faster. That page that you showed does nothing to suggest 3rd Kazekage escaping the range of Manda's jaws before he snaps them shut and kills the puppet.