Orochimaru & Tobirama VS Jiraiya & Minato

[Memento Mori]

haaaaa........dont underestimate jiraiya,he got infinite time senjentsu along with ma and pa.........jiraiya may take down orochimaru and in the mean time minato and tobirama will play ftg games.....

 

[Nattana]

Tobriama used to be the Fastest Shinobi ever alive. Now everybody steals his techniques I think Tobriam might try to Kill Orochimaru for stealing his techniques and Minato.

I leld. Like seriously

 

[A v i]

haaaaa........dont underestimate jiraiya,he got infinite time senjentsu along with ma and pa.........jiraiya may take down orochimaru and in the mean time minato and tobirama will play ftg games.....

Improving a jutsu ain't an easy thing,Orochimaru has considerable rights on EDO tensei.

 

[Joker]

I mean Minato don't need SM to take on any one of those two since it is one opponent for each & No Jiraya ain't below Orochimaru.

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Jiraiya was EASILY manhandled by Orochimaru's TONGUE, what do you mean Orochimaru isn't above him?
You make it sound like Minato shits on Orochimaru, which is clearly not the case.

 

[Memento Mori]

Tobriama used to be the Fastest Shinobi ever alive. Now everybody steals his techniques I think Tobriam might try to Kill Orochimaru for stealing his techniques and Minato.

GOOD JOKE....lol'd hard

 

[Valhorus]

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Jiraiya was EASILY manhandled by Orochimaru's TONGUE, what do you mean Orochimaru isn't above him?
You make it sound like Minato shits on Orochimaru, which is clearly not the case.

Wasn't Jiraya drugged by Tsunade ?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Doesn't Jiraya need both to maintain SM?

not really, his sm probably jus won't last forever compared to when he has both.

 

[A v i]

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Jiraiya was EASILY manhandled by Orochimaru's TONGUE, what do you mean Orochimaru isn't above him?
You make it sound like Minato shits on Orochimaru, which is clearly not the case.

It won't prove anything here.Going by that logic Tsunade is above Orochimaru because she made him flee from that battle field & no Iam not saying Minato shits on Orochimaru and I don't even know where u pulled that from.I said he don't need SM to deal with him in a one on one battle which is true whether u like it or not.

 

[Joker]

Wasn't Jiraya drugged by Tsunade ?

"Mutually" Meaning a relatively equal, and Orochimaru still fodderized, thrashed, broke ribs, and his leg, with his TONGUE. It's not really debatable.

 

[Memento Mori]

Wasn't Jiraya drugged by Tsunade ?

drugged and may be part of his belly got burned by amaterasu in part 1 fight against itachi

 

[Memento Mori]

orochimaru wanking is high here,isn't it?

 

[Valhorus]

"Mutually" Meaning a relatively equal, and Orochimaru still fodderized, thrashed, broke ribs, and his leg, with his TONGUE. It's not really debatable.

It doesn't matter what he says . Orochimaru was without hands and Jiraya was drugged u can't judge from that .

 

[Joker]

It won't prove anything here.Going by that logic Tsunade is above Orochimaru because she made him flee from that battle field & no Iam not saying Minato shits on Orochimaru and I don't even know where u pulled that from.I said he don't need SM to deal with him in a one on one battle which is true whether u like it or not.

He left because Tsunade wouldn't get heal his arms, how is that going by my logic..? If he would've stayed a couple more minutes afterwards he could've easily killed the other two Sannin there, Tsunade collapsed, and Jiraiya's ribs and leg were broken.
I never said you explicitly stated that, I just said you're making it sound that way. I don't know why people keep using Minato's SM like he's proficient at it. If he say's he's no good, he's not good. Don't know why everyone is focused on Orochimaru anyways, Tobirama is still here, not to mention with one fodder Edo... u_u

orochimaru wanking is high here,isn't it?

Instead of double-posting, and making random comments, actually contribute to the discussion or you're free to leave.

 

[Memento Mori]

He left because Tsunade wouldn't get heal his arms, how is that going by my logic..? If he would've stayed a couple more minutes afterwards he could've easily killed the other two Sannin there, Tsunade collapsed, and Jiraiya's ribs and leg were broken.
I never said you explicitly stated that, I just said you're making it sound that way. I don't know why people keep using Minato's SM like he's proficient at it. If he say's he's no good, he's not good. Don't know why everyone is focused on Orochimaru anyways, Tobirama is still here, not to mention with one fodder Edo... u_u


Instead of double-posting, and making random comments, actually contribute to the discussion or you're free to leave.

one thing-team B wins

 

[Joker]

It doesn't matter what he says . Orochimaru was without hands and Jiraya was drugged u can't judge from that .

Jiraiya was regaining his strength from being drugged, Orochimaru was handicapped completely, what do you mean you can't judge from that? It still goes to show, the gap between them is strong.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Jiraiya was regaining his strength from being drugged, Orochimaru was handicapped completely, what do you mean you can't judge from that? It still goes to show, the gap between them is strong.

That wasn't jirayas strongest form either though. So I don't see how there is a gap when both were handicapped

 

[Memento Mori]

Jiraiya was regaining his strength from being drugged, Orochimaru was handicapped completely, what do you mean you can't judge from that? It still goes to show, the gap between them is strong.

yes i do agree that orochimaru is a way stronger than jiraiya but jiraiya .....................................................

one gotta ask you can jiraiya allowed to use sm in this battle????

 

[A v i]

He left because Tsunade wouldn't get heal his arms, how is that going by my logic..? If he would've stayed a couple more minutes afterwards he could've easily killed the other two Sannin there, Tsunade collapsed, and Jiraiya's ribs and leg were broken.

He didn't left the battle field right after Tsunade refusing to heal him and your telling that dude suddenly changed his mind on a whim and decided to go back and that is in the middle of the battle? I wonder what made him a wise man all of a sudden.:yeah:

Regardless,that scan of yours by no means proves that Orochimaru can beat Jiraya.Iam not sure about which one them would win in a battle but ur making it sound like Orochimaru is far beyond Jiraya which is not true.If u belive Orochimaru ownes him that easily then post ur argument that explains how Orochimaru beats Jiraya that easily in this thread.

I never said you explicitly stated that, I just said you're making it sound that way. I don't know why people keep using Minato's SM like he's proficient at it. If he say's he's no good, he's not good. Don't know why everyone is focused on Orochimaru anyways, Tobirama is still here, not to mention with one fodder Edo.

Tell me where exactly my post sounds like Minato fodderizes Orochimaru.I said he don't need SM to take on anyone of them in a one on one battle.Is that really sounds like Minato stomps Orochimaru?If u really think Minato needs SM to deal with anyone of them then it is you who is overrating those two or underrating Minato. Whatever,We won't get anywhere if we start fighting over silly things such as this so lets leave this point and once again I honestly don't belive that Minato beats Orochimaru/Lawd Tobirama with ease.

Iam one of those people who thinks that using Minato's SM in this battle is nothing more than waste of time & No,he never said he is not good he said it takes more time and even admitted that he used it in real battles.
He said I haven't used it much in real combat implying that he used it during his battles.
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This is my 3rd time posting this viz proof in this thread so plz stop saying that he is not good at using it.Minato is a perfect sage.he is by no means a bad senjutsu user,if only he gets Ma and Pa like Jiraya he can use unlimited SM with better control over senjutsu chakra than Jiraya.

 

[Joker]

That wasn't jirayas strongest form either though. So I don't see how there is a gap when both were handicapped

Jiraiya was regaining his strength throughout the battle, as seeing drugs wear of, Orochimaru's handicap was permanent. Orochimaru said their handicaps were "equal" but there was still no contest between the two.

yes i do agree that orochimaru is a way stronger than jiraiya but jiraiya .....................................................

one gotta ask you can jiraiya allowed to use sm in this battle????

If Jiraiya can go into SM during this battle (with Tobirama speeding everywhere, so I doubt) he can utilize it.

He didn't left the battle field right after Tsunade refusing to heal him and your telling that dude suddenly changed his mind on a whim and decided to go back and that is in the middle of the battle? I wonder what made him a wise man all of a sudden.:yeah:

Regardless,that scan of yours by no means proves that Orochimaru can beat Jiraya.Iam not sure about which one them would win in a battle but ur making it sounds like Orochimaru is far beyond Jiraya which is not true.If u belive Orochimaru ownes him that easily then post ur argument that explains how Orochimaru beats Jiraya that easily in this thread.



Tell me where exactly my post sounds like Minato fodderizes Orochimaru.I said he don't need SM to take on anyone of them in a one on one battle.Is that really sounds like Minato stomps Orochimaru?If u really think Minato needs SM to deal with anyone of them then it is you who is overrating those two or underrating Minato. Whatever,We won't get anywhere if we start fighting over silly things such as this so lets leave this point and once again I honestly don't belive that Minato beats Orochimaru/Lawd Tobirama with ease.

Iam one of those people who thinks that using Minato's SM in this battle is nothing more than waste of time & No,he never said he is not good he said it takes more time and even admitted that he used it in real battles.

He left after the punch Tsunade gave him which BARELY broke his facial mask. Orochimaru clearly saw that having this battle was going to go nowhere, considering Tsunade refused to heal him and showed constant defiance. He was in extreme amounts of Pain, he had a fever, his arms were rotting, he couldn't use ninjutsu. Now tell me, if you realized that this battle was pointless, would you stay or leave?

It's heavily implied Orochimaru is superior,

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"Sensei, Senjutsu isn't exactly your forte"
for·te1
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noun
1.
a thing at which someone excels.
"small talk was not his forte"
synonyms: strength, strong point, specialty, strong suit, talent, special ability, skill, bent, gift, métier; informalthing
"acting had always been her forte"
antonyms: weakness
2.
FENCING
the stronger part of a sword blade, from the hilt to the middle.
"That's an UNDERSTATEMENT"
un·der·state·ment
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noun
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the presentation of something as being smaller, worse, or less important than it actually is.
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[Bogard]

Minato did say SM isn't his forte, but he was referring to the amount of time to enter and maintain the mode, which is quite underwhelming compared to let's say Naruto or Hashirama for example. It's for that reason he said he sucked at SM, but inside SM he does control the mode as perfectly as them, even better than someone like Jiraya