orochimaru > minato

[Gatsuuga]

Bad match up for Minato, Oro takes this fight

 

[blazekev90]

wow this thread is still going and i still see fail fanboy post smh lol

 

[Deadai]

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that right there proves you have no decent counter as to how Minato would win your just riding him like a pony aint cha fanboy?

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[deadpooliswade]

In my opinion, it would most probably be a tie.Many are saying minato cant defeat orochimaru,,,same is the case for oro, he can't defeat minato either.

 

[dryman19]

how oro counter ftg

 

[Deadai]

how oro counter ftg

its simple he wont need to he can simply regenerate and counter Minato with this:sy: ​

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[Kravenzblood]

^Lol, no point in trying to convince you kid. Minato ended a war in a blink of an eye.( We don't know what he used) How can Oruchimaru even keep up with minato?

 

[Killahkels]

So why orochimaru didnt attack when Minato was Hokage? Hmm why he went after an old man in a concealed area. Yeah real tough. Orochimaru power lies in his intellegence and knowledge of many jutsu. Minato has the ability to analyze jutsu in seconds. We know he has sealing techs, ftg, and rasengan but Im sure he knew other jutsu.

 

[blazekev90]

So why orochimaru didnt attack when Minato was Hokage? Hmm why he went after an old man in a concealed area. Yeah real tough. Orochimaru power lies in his intellegence and knowledge of many jutsu. Minato has the ability to analyze jutsu in seconds. We know he has sealing techs, ftg, and rasengan but Im sure he knew other jutsu.

he was in Akatsuki.

 

[DeViliShChild]

Ok so we all know Shikamaru beat Hidan, yet Hidan lives.
So I could see Minato killing Oro over and over just to see him regenerate and not die. So He could just put a sela on him and teleport him across the globe, or in a hole or ect..
Effectively winning in a bitch like manner

 

[Cartera]

you know what's sad? you use to be a fan like us, but then you took a shurkan to the knee.

 

[Vexorian]

Eh...Orochimaru would win I do believe. Experience and Intellect > Intellect alone. Not to mention Orochimaru's strength > Minato's, Orochimaru's Genjutsu > Minato's, Orochimaru's Taijutsu = Minato's, Orochimaru's Summons > Minato's, Orochimaru's Ninjutsu = Minato's. More importantly, Minato's stamina is a level or two behind even a sick Orochimaru's stamina. The only thing that Minato clearly dominates in is speed, and Orochimaru said the only thing he needed to fear while he fought Kyuubi Naruto was the Bijuudama. Thus, Minato loses and Orochimaru wins, end of story.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Eh...Orochimaru would win I do believe. Experience and Intellect > Intellect alone. Not to mention Orochimaru's strength > Minato's, Orochimaru's Genjutsu > Minato's, Orochimaru's Taijutsu = Minato's, Orochimaru's Summons > Minato's, Orochimaru's Ninjutsu = Minato's. More importantly, Minato's stamina is a level or two behind even a sick Orochimaru's stamina. The only thing that Minato clearly dominates in is speed, and Orochimaru said the only thing he needed to fear while he fought Kyuubi Naruto was the Bijuudama. Thus, Minato loses and Orochimaru wins, end of story.

Bullshit. Minato and Oro's taijutsu are not anywhere near the same level. That is is pretty ridiculous to say.

Secondly we have seen Oro use exactly one genjutsu which was not very skillful.

His sealing jutsus are way worse than Jiraiya's who is worse than Minato, so sealing jutsus are a big danger.

Secondly because of Minato's ability to break contract summons, Oro no longer has control of his Edo's or his snake summons, so that would backfire on Orochimaru hardcore.

Orochimaru has literally no attacks that can hit Minato.

A (the fastest character in the manga other than Naruto) couldn't even touch him, and Tobi (who has space-time and can phase through things) only managed to grab his wrist by teleporting right behind him when Minato was focused on the 9-tails. So yeah Oro is not hitting Minato.

Oro's one and only chance is to start off the fight in his true form because if he does than his blood will paralyze Minato once it turns into a gas, however FTG is not a jutsu that requires hand seals, and it isn't paralyzing chakra so theoretically Minato could just retreat.

But yeah that is the only way Oro stands a shot. All of his abilities can be countered by Minato, and he has very few counters to Minato's ability other than to regenerate. That isn't even a real counter since it wouldn't damage Minato at all.

A prolonged battle would be in Minato's favor as his jutsus require far less chakra than those of Orochimaru.

 

[blazekev90]

Bullshit. Minato and Oro's taijutsu are not anywhere near the same level. That is is pretty ridiculous to say.

Secondly we have seen Oro use exactly one genjutsu which was not very skillful.

His sealing jutsus are way worse than Jiraiya's who is worse than Minato, so sealing jutsus are a big danger.

Secondly because of Minato's ability to break contract summons, Oro no longer has control of his Edo's or his snake summons, so that would backfire on Orochimaru hardcore.

Orochimaru has literally no attacks that can hit Minato.

A (the fastest character in the manga other than Naruto) couldn't even touch him, and Tobi (who has space-time and can phase through things) only managed to grab his wrist by teleporting right behind him when Minato was focused on the 9-tails. So yeah Oro is not hitting Minato.

Oro's one and only chance is to start off the fight in his true form because if he does than his blood will paralyze Minato once it turns into a gas, however FTG is not a jutsu that requires hand seals, and it isn't paralyzing chakra so theoretically Minato could just retreat.
But yeah that is the only way Oro stands a shot. All of his abilities can be countered by Minato, and he has very few counters to Minato's ability other than to regenerate. That isn't even a real counter since it wouldn't damage Minato at all.

A prolonged battle would be in Minato's favor as his jutsus require far less chakra than those of Orochimaru.

retreat back paralyzed? lol you reaching bruh

was this not genjutsu????

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when was it said his sealing was worse than Jman, proof plz....

We dont know if contract seal would work on Edo, and his snakes wouldnt abandon him, just as Jman's toads wouldnt

direct hit, maybe not but he could counter. Unlike A and Tobi, Oro is very unpredictable.

as i said he would be paralyzed, so retreat...um....yea....no

Oro could counter kunai being thrown in his direction with wind release

Oro is also able to emerge into/from the ground

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which could be tricky for even Minato

Oro wouldnt probably not to even "shed" his skin with Minato's offensive attacks.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

retreat back paralyzed? lol you reaching bruh

was this not genjutsu????

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when was it said his sealing was worse than Jman, proof plz....

We dont know if contract seal would work on Edo, and his snakes wouldnt abandon him, just as Jman's toads wouldnt

direct hit, maybe not but he could counter. Unlike A and Tobi, Oro is very unpredictable.

as i said he would be paralyzed, so retreat...um....yea....no

Oro could counter kunai being thrown in his direction with wind release

Oro is also able to emerge into/from the ground

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which could be tricky for even Minato

Oro wouldnt probably not to even "shed" his skin with Minato's offensive attacks.

Oro's snakes would definitely abandon him. At least Manda would. The only reason Manda even same was because demanded sacrifices from Oro, then he proceeds to threaten Oro's life. That is a no go there.

As for the Edo's they are a form of summons yes? He controls them? I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Therefore all the Edo's he has summoned (which would only be Hashirama and Tobirama if we are going by what he actually has) would be free to do what they wanted, and since they were Hokages they would definitely fight against Oro.

Jiraiya said that Oro's seals were rough and not very skillful. He said it in part 1 when he released that five element seal on Naruto's stomach.

I am not sure how FTG is activated, do you know how it is? It isn't done through a hand seal or any sort of motion. Minato does it through thought would you agree with that? SO in theory he should be able to use FTG at any time, unless he were under a very skillful genjutsu.

 

[blazekev90]

Oro's snakes would definitely abandon him. At least Manda would. The only reason Manda even same was because demanded sacrifices from Oro, then he proceeds to threaten Oro's life. That is a no go there.

As for the Edo's they are a form of summons yes? He controls them? I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Therefore all the Edo's he has summoned (which would only be Hashirama and Tobirama if we are going by what he actually has) would be free to do what they wanted, and since they were Hokages they would definitely fight against Oro.

Jiraiya said that Oro's seals were rough and not very skillful. He said it in part 1 when he released that five element seal on Naruto's stomach.

I am not sure how FTG is activated, do you know how it is? It isn't done through a hand seal or any sort of motion. Minato does it through thought would you agree with that? SO in theory he should be able to use FTG at any time, unless he were under a very skillful genjutsu.

Manda is a hot-head who ultimatly has respect for his strength, regardless how he behaves, thus why Kabuto mentioned he needed not to know how weak Oro was at the time, sacrifices for just to keep him chill.

Oro's Edo have NO contract, think has been explained to you before man, i remember lol

I still dont recall this, ill need a link. Btw he had no problem easily using it on Naurto during the exams, so ill need the proof

IF (even tho we dont know if he could use it) Minato can use ftg while paralyzed, than what???? lol

Also I mentioned counters Oro could easily use against Minato, and you said he had none?? (lol)

Minato would have to use his base speed (tho fast) and rasegon (spelling) which wouldnt even force Oro to shed his body, unless his body isnt mobile. Ex) face slapped off (no shed), body cut in half (no shed) tsuande punch (no shed)

BOLD: no time for assumptions, this has been discussed, if we dont know for sure, you cant counter if!!

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Manda is a hot-head who ultimatly has respect for his strength, regardless how he behaves, thus why Kabuto mentioned he needed not to know how weak Oro was at the time, sacrifices for just to keep him chill.

Oro's Edo have NO contract, think has been explained to you before man, i remember lol

I still dont recall this, ill need a link. Btw he had no problem easily using it on Naurto during the exams, so ill need the proof

IF (even tho we dont know if he could use it) Minato can use ftg while paralyzed, than what???? lol

Also I mentioned counters Oro could easily use against Minato, and you said he had none?? (lol)

Minato would have to use his base speed (tho fast) and rasegon (spelling) which wouldnt even force Oro to shed his body, unless his body isnt mobile. Ex) face slapped off (no shed), body cut in half (no shed) tsuande punch (no shed)

BOLD: no time for assumptions, this has been discussed, if we dont know for sure, you cant counter if!!

Getting damaged is still detrimental to Oro. He can't regenerate forever and I am sure that his regeneration takes more chakra than Minato using FTG, if FTG even uses chakra when just teleporting himself.

Secondly about those counters, that only works with a kunai thrown directly at him, and it would only work if Oro was facing Minato.

What I mean by that is take a look back at the fight between A & Bee vs. Minato. He doesn't throw his kunai straight at them he spreads his kunai around so he can have instantaneous movement across the battlefield. And when A attacked him Minato used FTG and then managed to throw a kunai at his back before he could even turn around, and I know A is way faster than Oro.


About Edo Tensei and the contract seal, are you sure it is not some sort of contract? I thought that Kabuto used a paper with seals on it and the blood of the person. At the very least both Oro and Kabuto put kunai with sealing tags in the people to control them (something Tobirama did not have), and MInato could touch the people and mess with the tags that allow control of the Edo's.


Oh my point about if he could use FTG while paralyzed well then he could retreat to Konoha at any time. Retreat is always an option for Minato. Maybe not a very noble or heroic one, but it is always an option.

 

[Spectre27]

I could less who u are and your arguments still suck lol. Ftg required kunai, which I already explained would be countered easily. What seal exactly??? (that doesn't take time/prep)

I haven't read past maybe page 4 of the thread yet, but come on, you're being a fanboy. I don't care for either character but Minato would win.

I don't care if Orochimaru has wind release, what if Minato wasn't aiming at him and instead just hit the area around him for tactical purposes?
Oro can only use the snake skin technique to shed bodies until he reaches him limit because it uses chakra. As a master of Fuuinjutsu, Minato could probably make a super explosive tag before the battle started to suprise Orochimaru.
Who ever said snakes were superior to toads? Last I saw, Manda was sacrificed by Sasuke as a shield. All the toads are still alive and Manda was the only snake we ever saw. Unless the snakes can teach the Snake Sage arts or something, then toads>snakes.
Kusanagi is negated by TFG speed. Triple Rashomon is defeated by, ya know, going around it as Minato doesn't have the TBB area effect damage of Naruto.
Im done for the moment.:scorps:

 

[blazekev90]

Getting damaged is still detrimental to Oro. He can't regenerate forever and I am sure that his regeneration takes more chakra than Minato using FTG, if FTG even uses chakra when just teleporting himself.

Secondly about those counters, that only works with a kunai thrown directly at him, and it would only work if Oro was facing Minato.

What I mean by that is take a look back at the fight between A & Bee vs. Minato. He doesn't throw his kunai straight at them he spreads his kunai around so he can have instantaneous movement across the battlefield. And when A attacked him Minato used FTG and then managed to throw a kunai at his back before he could even turn around, and I know A is way faster than Oro.


About Edo Tensei and the contract seal, are you sure it is not some sort of contract? I thought that Kabuto used a paper with seals on it and the blood of the person. At the very least both Oro and Kabuto put kunai with sealing tags in the people to control them (something Tobirama did not have), and MInato could touch the people and mess with the tags that allow control of the Edo's.


Oh my point about if he could use FTG while paralyzed well then he could retreat to Konoha at any time. Retreat is always an option for Minato. Maybe not a very noble or heroic one, but it is always an option.

Lol so we're retreating now!?!?? That ends this argument lol

But to explain alittle more before I go to sleep. Kunai wouldn't need to be thrown directly at Oro or even behind him. As when the 3rd and two Anbu attempted to first stop Oro, he used wind release which covered the whole room (back, front and sides) killing the anbu in the room. His wind release in the forest reorganized the whole setting (mind you jr wasn't trying to kill them). The point is, ftg would be countered unless Minato is going to retreat, paralyzed and all lol.

Goodnight, I've had my fun and will be back tomorrow.

 

[blazekev90]

I haven't read past maybe page 4 of the thread yet, but come on, you're being a fanboy. I don't care for either character but Minato would win.

I don't care if Orochimaru has wind release, what if Minato wasn't aiming at him and instead just hit the area around him for tactical purposes?
Oro can only use the snake skin technique to shed bodies until he reaches him limit because it uses chakra. As a master of Fuuinjutsu, Minato could probably make a super explosive tag before the battle started to suprise Orochimaru.
Who ever said snakes were superior to toads? Last I saw, Manda was sacrificed by Sasuke as a shield. All the toads are still alive and Manda was the only snake we ever saw. Unless the snakes can teach the Snake Sage arts or something, then toads>snakes.
Kusanagi is negated by TFG speed. Triple Rashomon is defeated by, ya know, going around it as Minato doesn't have the TBB area effect damage of Naruto.
Im done for the moment.:scorps:

This was one of the worse arguments posted in the thread, plz stop at that. :flaw: Smh lol

Btw srry for the spam, on my iPod (goodnight)