orochimaru > minato

[Vexorian]

Minato will make quick work of oro lol

I'm not saying that Orochimaru would win hands down, Minato can easily take this as well. But, the FACT remains that you are a fanboy.

Also, this is a bit funny. What makes you think that Orochimaru can't touch him? Between the thousands of snakes he summons out and his true form, I don't see how Orochimaru loses.

P.S. Chopping off Orochimaru's head is the equivelant of doing nothing due to his true form.

 

[kibaclaw]

I can't believe this is being debated right now, Minato wins hands down, not saying it will be easy, but nonetheless he will still win. Are we forgetting that Oro has no way to touch Minato, even in Minato's base speed Oro would have a hard time trying to land a blow on him, there's just no way for him to do it.

And someone show me where it says Rasengan can't harm Oro?? Oro isn't even that strong, he's just hard to kill with a bunch of overrated forbidden jutsu, but I do give him credit because of those things. Please don't compare Naruto's Rasengan to his fathers' because Minato's is 2x bigger and more powerful then Narutos', He damaged Tobi with a Rasengan and made him retreat, need I remind you Tobi had the cells of the first Hokage in him, Senju DNA which is hella strong, give me a break, if he can do that to Tobi he sure as hell can do it to Oro.

I see it like this, Minato dances around Oro with a barrage Rasengan, Oro heals himself (limited to about a few heals) until he runs out of chakra. While Oro is weak and pathetic Minato comes in with a FTG head chop, Oro is done. U_U

You don't think oro is fast? He bitchslapped naruto in 4 tails mode from directly in Front of his face and naruto didn't have a chance to even begin to react. The only thing minato has going for him is to sneak up behind u but he has to throw a kunai there. It may work once on oro but that will be it. All oro gotta do is stick something like a snake next to the kunai when minato ftg and that object will fuse into minatos body because they both occupy the same space which will kill minato if its his neck, head, chest etc.

 

[Siafu]

Funny man...get ori out of his lab first...

 

[Siafu]

minatO ****'s him up in blink gUyz...all u know that...when saskue can kill him,minato cant haa?!

 

[Sunagura]

Tenten can kill both

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[Kyuubikiller]

You don't think oro is fast? He bitchslapped naruto in 4 tails mode from directly in Front of his face and naruto didn't have a chance to even begin to react. The only thing minato has going for him is to sneak up behind u but he has to throw a kunai there. It may work once on oro but that will be it. .All oro gotta do is stick something like a snake next to the kunai when minato ftg and that object will fuse into minatos body because they both occupy the same space which will kill minato if its his neck, head, chest etc

Naruto in 4 tails mode is a mindless monster, not capable of reacting to anything unless it wants to, please do not compare that speed to the man we know as yellow flash xd

Help me understand the bolded part a little bit because right now it sounds real shitty, I don't understand one bit, and even if Oro figured out FTG, he can't counter his FTG v2 because it moves to the moving Kunai and not the stationary ones, his snakes will be wasting precious time sitting next to Kunai he will never appear to. Even after Raikage figured out FTG he was still not fast enough to counter, arguably the second fastest at that time. Michael Jackson will be shitting his pants not knowing where to strike next.

 

[Gooner4life]

minatO ****'s him up in blink gUyz...all u know that...when saskue can kill him,minato cant haa?!

I was waiting for someone to bring up Sasuke. Oro was nearly dead when Sasuke attacked because if Oro was at full fitness Sasuke would have had his ass handed to him

On the main point, It is very hard to say this but for people to say either would win easily is incredibly stupid. You have to remember Oro fought a 4 tailed Kyuubi Naruto, while weak, only a few months of his current body left. Minato doesn't have that kind of firepower, and would struggle. Furthermore, Oro's experience clearly surpasses Minato's and you could assume his arsenal of jutsu would surpass Minato's as his ambition was to learn every jutsu in history.

However Minato's speed would always cause a problem as there Oro can only regenerate so fast, and this would clearly be much slower than the ftg.

Based on what we have seen without assumptions, Oro would win but because we've so little of Minato, you have to make assumptions, which means any conclusions as to why Minato could win, even though they may be correct cannot be proved and therefore the outcome of this fight cannot relly be predicted

 

[blazekev90]

Naruto in 4 tails mode is a mindless monster, not capable of reacting to anything unless it wants to, please do not compare that speed to the man we know as yellow flash xd

Help me understand the bolded part a little bit because right now it sounds real shitty, I don't understand one bit, and even if Oro figured out FTG, he can't counter his FTG v2 because it moves to the moving Kunai and not the stationary ones, his snakes will be wasting precious time sitting next to Kunai he will never appear to. Even after Raikage figured out FTG he was still not fast enough to counter, arguably the second fastest at that time. Michael Jackson will be shitting his pants not knowing where to strike next.

Do u not know ftg is based off kunai, which are easily countered by wind release lol. Ftg offensively would be useless

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Do u not know ftg is based off kunai, which are easily countered by wind release lol. Ftg offensively would be useless

You keep spitting this bull about wind release yet I've never seen him do one single wind jutsu, this is just as irrelevant as Minato knowing tons of sealing jutsu but we've never seen him do any, therefore your wind release argument is a fail, otherwise I could just say Minato can seal Oro using one of his tons of sealing techniques. Even if Oro blows away his Kunai, he can teleport to all of them and recollect them throwing them back before he can get a chance to form another one of his absent wind jutsu, Oro still looses. :scorps:

 

[blazekev90]

You keep spitting this bull about wind release yet I've never seen him do one single wind jutsu, this is just as irrelevant as Minato knowing tons of sealing jutsu but we've never seen him do any, therefore your wind release argument is a fail, otherwise I could just say Minato can seal Oro using one of his tons of sealing techniques. Even if Oro blows away his Kunai, he can teleport to all of them and recollect them throwing them back before he can get a chance to form another one of his absent wind jutsu, Oro still looses. :scorps:

My friend you fail as being a Naruto fan if you don't remember seeing Oro use wind release. He used it during the exams in the forest and the time the 3rd Hokage and anbu caught him conducting experiments. Re-read ya shyt bruh, I only speak of what has been displayed #period.

Lol running collecting kunai to throw again!?!? #fail

 

[Kyuubikiller]

My friend you fail as being a Naruto fan if you don't remember seeing Oro use wind release. He used it during the exams in the forest and the time the 3rd Hokage and anbu caught him conducting experiments. Re-read ya shyt bruh, I only speak of what has been displayed #period.

Lol running collecting kunai to throw again!?!? #fail

That must be in the anime, which really doesn't count!! And now we have an internet gangster, BRUH!!! Real funny. Nonetheless, No matter how many wind techs Oro does, he still can't get around FTG, it's ridiculous to think simple wind techniques can do so. You still haven't given a solid argument on how Oro will win, I have mine, and please, don't bring up the wind thing again as I've already countered that. Oro looses more times then he wins, he's too slow, and he has nothing fast enough to hit Minato, that's pretty much it.

 

[blazekev90]

That must be in the anime, which really doesn't count!! And now we have an internet gangster, BRUH!!! Real funny. Nonetheless, No matter how many wind techs Oro does, he still can't get around FTG, it's ridiculous to think simple wind techniques can do so. You still haven't given a solid argument on how Oro will win, I have mine, and please, don't bring up the wind thing again as I've already countered that. Oro looses more times then he wins, he's too slow, and he has nothing fast enough to hit Minato, that's pretty much it.

Lol its in the manga, what don't u understand?! I personally think you're slow man. If their are NO kunai able to get close to Oro, Minato wouldn't be able to teleport near him (no ftg)
1) oro uses posion which would paralyze Minato, leaving him hopeless
2) use edo and summons, which would put Minato in a stressful situation (better retreat like someone said) lol
3) oro is able to emerge into the ground, so he could possibly catch Minato off guard and use his sword or snakes

(the first one would be the best, but possible ways and if you need links wit that fukked up memory simply ask, I have em)

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol its in the manga, what don't u understand?! I personally think you're slow man. If their are NO kunai able to get close to Oro, Minato wouldn't be able to teleport near him (no ftg)
1) oro uses posion which would paralyze Minato, leaving him hopeless
2) use edo and summons, which would put Minato in a stressful situation (better retreat like someone said) lol
3) oro is able to emerge into the ground, so he could possibly catch Minato off guard and use his sword or snakes

(the first one would be the best, but possible ways and if you need links wit that fukked up memory simply ask, I have em)

flawed.
1. thats a assumption minato's too fast to be catched off guard so idk how orochirama will poison him. and link me where orochimaru used poison to paralyze someone b4?
2.yea ok thats why the 3rd hokage owned them. minato>old hokage
3.minato has a sensor technique from the 2nd hokage which he is able to sense his enemies he can just do that and doge orochimaru or find where he is.
4. not to mention he had a huge sealing arsenal from the uzumaki clan which can deal with the edo summons.

 

[blazekev90]

flawed.
1. thats a assumption minato's too fast to be catched off guard so idk how orochirama will poison him. and link me where orochimaru used poison to paralyze someone b4?
2.yea ok thats why the 3rd hokage owned them. minato>old hokage
3.minato has a sensor technique from the 2nd hokage which he is able to sense his enemies he can just do that and doge orochimaru or find where he is.
4. not to mention he had a huge sealing arsenal from the uzumaki clan which can deal with the edo summons.

Omg did ya'll read the manga??? lol

-He used the poison in his true form, against Sasuke which prevented him from moving. This assist him in performing the ritual
-the 3rd used a technique that caused him his life, the same Minato would have to use #period
-senor-type u do have a point. Therefore, ill cancel that theory because idk it that hides ones chakra
-we dont know the seals, so its irrelevent

 

[Vexorian]

flawed.
1. thats a assumption minato's too fast to be catched off guard so idk how orochirama will poison him. and link me where orochimaru used poison to paralyze someone b4?
2.yea ok thats why the 3rd hokage owned them. minato>old hokage
3.minato has a sensor technique from the 2nd hokage which he is able to sense his enemies he can just do that and doge orochimaru or find where he is.
4. not to mention he had a huge sealing arsenal from the uzumaki clan which can deal with the edo summons.

There is some minor problems here.....I'll start with the most important one.

EXPERIENCE, Orochimaru wins that.
INTELLIGENCE, Both are tied.
NINJUTSU, we'll say for the sake of argument that both are tied.
SEALING, because Shiki Fuujin cannot be used, they are both tied because Edo Tensei involves a great deal of sealing.
STRENGTH, Orochimaru wins.
SPEED, Minato wins.
TAIJUTSU, we'll go with tied.
SUMMONING, Orochimaru wins.
STAMINA, Orochimaru wins.
DURABILITY, Orochimaru wins.
Here's the kicker to all of this, Orochimaru has KNOWLEDGE of Minato's techniques, Minato does not.

The only foreseeable way for Minato to win is to seal him using Shiki Fuujin, which would count as suicide. Orochimaru wins more often than not.

 

[blazekev90]

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[Kyuubikiller]

Lol its in the manga, what don't u understand?! I personally think you're slow man. If their are NO kunai able to get close to Oro, Minato wouldn't be able to teleport near him (no ftg)
1) oro uses posion which would paralyze Minato, leaving him hopeless
2) use edo and summons, which would put Minato in a stressful situation (better retreat like someone said) lol
3) oro is able to emerge into the ground, so he could possibly catch Minato off guard and use his sword or snakes

(the first one would be the best, but possible ways and if you need links wit that fukked up memory simply ask, I have em)

1. How is Oro going to effectively deliver poison to Minato?? Oh yea, The fastest shinobi in the world is going to sit there and let himself get poisoned, riiiiigght. The only way that Oro can do that is if Minato is at home taking a shit, #1 fail.

2. This would actually be his best bet, but considering Minato can summon a family of frogs, I highly doubt he could pull it off, not to mention his edo's were mindless idiots. Minato took out platoons all by himself, I doubt he'll need help with the edo's but I'll humor you and say he does, #2 fail.

3. POSSIBLY catch Minato off guard?? This just sounds really pathetic. I'm sorry, but Minato isn't one to be caught off guard unlike Oro himself who was stabbed with the Sword of Totsuka, caught off guard, a play from your book eh?? Minato caught Tobi off guard, what makes you think he would let his guard down for a nano second?? #3 Mega fail.

All your arguments are a load of crap and have no real basis, I'll let you have your precious wind argument as you so desperately cling on to it for dear life as if it will help, but the outcome will still be the same. None of your arguments are feasible, TRY AGAIN MUDDAFUKKA!!!!!

 

[Uchiha Madara.]

1. How is Oro going to effectively deliver poison to Minato?? Oh yea, The fastest shinobi in the world is going to sit there and let himself get poisoned, riiiiigght. The only way that Oro can do that is if Minato is at home taking a shit, #1 fail.

2. This would actually be his best bet, but considering Minato can summon a family of frogs, I highly doubt he could pull it off, not to mention his edo's were mindless idiots. Minato took out platoons all by himself, I doubt he'll need help with the edo's but I'll humor you and say he does, #2 fail.

3. POSSIBLY catch Minato off guard?? This just sounds really pathetic. I'm sorry, but Minato isn't one to be caught off guard unlike Oro himself who was stabbed with the Sword of Totsuka, caught off guard, a play from your book eh?? Minato caught Tobi off guard, what makes you think he would let his guard down for a nano second?? #3 Mega fail.

All your arguments are a load of crap and have no real basis, I'll let you have your precious wind argument as you so desperately cling on to it for dear life as if it will help, but the outcome will still be the same. None of your arguments are feasible, TRY AGAIN MUDDAFUKKA!!!!!

Owned it U_U

 

[blazekev90]

1. How is Oro going to effectively deliver poison to Minato?? Oh yea, The fastest shinobi in the world is going to sit there and let himself get poisoned, riiiiigght. The only way that Oro can do that is if Minato is at home taking a shit, #1 fail.

2. This would actually be his best bet, but considering Minato can summon a family of frogs, I highly doubt he could pull it off, not to mention his edo's were mindless idiots. Minato took out platoons all by himself, I doubt he'll need help with the edo's but I'll humor you and say he does, #2 fail.

3. POSSIBLY catch Minato off guard?? This just sounds really pathetic. I'm sorry, but Minato isn't one to be caught off guard unlike Oro himself who was stabbed with the Sword of Totsuka, caught off guard, a play from your book eh?? Minato caught Tobi off guard, what makes you think he would let his guard down for a nano second?? #3 Mega fail.

All your arguments are a load of crap and have no real basis, I'll let you have your precious wind argument as you so desperately cling on to it for dear life as if it will help, but the outcome will still be the same. None of your arguments are feasible, TRY AGAIN MUDDAFUKKA!!!!!

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Minato is a close range fighter, the poison vaporates in the air with each cut, it doesnt matter how fast he is, he does breathe lmao

a family a toads?? ive only seen him summon one toad, and Manda pwned hin already lol. Also, fobber ninja are nt compared to two Hokages, controlled or not, and who can regenerate.

Tobi and Oro are two different ppl with completely different styles, and Oro is more unpredictable of the two.

Also, i provided evidence of Oro using wind, so remember ftg useless at the point lol

 

[Prince Charles]

Omg did ya'll read the manga??? lol

-He used the poison in his true form, against Sasuke which prevented him from moving. This assist him in performing the ritual
-the 3rd used a technique that caused him his life, the same Minato would have to use #period
-senor-type u do have a point. Therefore, ill cancel that theory because idk it that hides ones chakra
-we dont know the seals, so its irrelevent

can you make link to me where it was a poision not saying your wrong but i want to make sure.
um.. no he has more seals from the uzumaki clan do you read the manga? its not irrelevant if it was this whole thread would be irrelevant since we dont know minato's arsenal
fact is it was said he has a huge sealing arsenal from the uzumaki clan and their powerful your telling me not one of them cant deal with edo's?
:scorps: