Orochimaru can defeat Minato: With Proof

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@SimbaPrides

Obito stoping a sword with mere hand is also a plot device?
Obito has durability, he had hole in his chest and acted like it was nothing. Mask was made of durable materials too.

Orochimaru is also tough, minato's rasengan wont take him out

Kabuto was nothing special back then. You arguments are mute.

Obito stopping a sword with his hand is completly different.

You're comparing a gloved hand catching a sword to me talking about an A -Rank justu being slammed into someone's body

The masks durability isn't the matter, it's the strength of his neck and spine, then the obvious nerf the Rasengan received in those two cases. His head should of been knocked off.

I'm not arguing that Obito isn't durable, he is resilient as ****, he could handled being impaled twice by Kakashi before he ran to the Juubi.

Orochimaru doesn't have the luxury of being able to tank more than 1 Rasengan.

My point is that Obito should of been injured a lot more in those two cases than he was and I think it was because of plot

Kabuto was special back then he had considerable feats regarding medical ninjustu

 

[Prestonyoko]

@SimbaPrides

Obito stopping a sword with mere hand is also a plot device?
Obito has durability, he had hole in his chest and acted like it was nothing. Mask was made of durable materials too.

Orochimaru is also tough, minato's rasengan wont take him out

Kabuto was nothing special back then. Your arguments are mute.

Thank you

RDS = Reaper death seal

essentially minato can always end a match in a stalemate :|

Orochimaru can use Reaper Death Seal as well. So Minato's Fans zhouldnt be leaning on that for defeat, infact its not even defeat. Tf?

Orochimaru has Uzamaki Mask so that must count for something in his aid.

Rasengan to the back obliterates Orochimaru.

Orochimaru has zero feats that suggest he can keep up with Minato's speed.

@Bold

That's faulty logic and does not hold up in a debate. Gaara's sand had blocked every attack that ever came at it, but it couldn't block Lee's.

No it isn't, that's what you want to think bit the reality of it is that EVERY single fight Itachi has been in he has trapped his opponent in Genjutsu in some shape or form. It proves Minato has no choice of escaping Genjutsu or even getting around it.

haha your making a thread about minato and yet you don't even know one of his techniques. RDS is reaper of death seal . When he's shedding minato can simply blow his brain out with a rasengan . . It may take oro to shed his skin in less than 10 secs but it's not enough to escape since ftg is instant. Youre making me laugh right now .

I feel like I'm talking to a wall, its pointless debating with you.I flawed all your logic but you still come at me.

Whatever.

Got to love it when your arguments are ignored. It demonstrates that your opponents don't have a counter.

Who are you refering this to?

 

[Denzel Washington]

Thank you



Orochimaru can use Reaper Death Seal as well. So Minato's Fans zhouldnt be leaning on that for defeat, infact its not even defeat. Tf?

Orochimaru has Uzamaki Mask so that must count for something in his aid.



No it isn't, that's what you want to think bit the reality of it is that EVERY single fight Itachi has been in he has trapped his opponent in Genjutsu in some shape or form. It proves Minato has no choice of escaping Genjutsu or even getting around it.



I feel like I'm talking to a wall, its pointless debating with you.I flawed all your logic but you still come at me.

Whatever.



Who are you refering this to?

Of course it's faulty logic. I even provided you an example.

And besides, that's wrong anyways. Itachi didn't use any genjutsu on his opponents when he fought Naruto and Bee.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

What you both need to understand.

1: Minato's basic Rasengan won't hurt Orochimaru to the extent everybody wants to think.

2: Obito walked away from "Minato's" Rasengan, Kabuto didnt. Does that mean Naruto's Rasengan is stronger than Minato's?

3: When Minato engages Orochimaru in close combat after knowing its pointless to runaway, Orochimaru puts him in "Binding Snake Glare Spell". Rendering him unable to move & Orochimaru finishes him off.

4: The Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky, plays a big part in this as well, it levitates at Orochimaru's Finger tips coming from all angles.

1 and 2. Lol, Obito has Zetsu's body, which is tough and regenerative and did not save him from being significantly hurt.

In fact, he lost an arm to that.

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3. Minato's kunai almost cut off a tail of the 8 tails, he can most certainly cut through those snakes.

4. Doesn't matter to Minato who's a sensor and teleporter.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito stopping a sword with his hand is completly different.

You're comparing a gloved hand catching a sword to me talking about an A -Rank justu being slammed into someone's body

It was giant sword vs hand. It was blocked not caught, i think comparison is fair.

The masks durability isn't the matter, it's the strength of his neck and spine, then the obvious nerf the Rasengan received in those two cases. His head should of been knocked off.

Lets not get into physics here, NV has little place for it and you know it.

I'm not arguing that Obito isn't durable, he is resilient as ****, but the most he could handle was being impaled twice by Kakashi before he ran to the Juubi.

It did more damage then rasengan thou, he was on verge of death U_U

Orochimaru doesn't have the luxury of being able to tank more than 1 Rasengan.

Yes he does. Tsunade is known to crush boulders with her fists and even some weak v3 susanos while giant rasengan of naruto failed miserably vs rib cage. Orochimaru took her rampage like nothing.

My point is that Obito should of been injured a lot more in those two cases than he was and I think it was because of plot

I disagree. In fact rasengan gets more hype then it's worth, then you call it plot armor when people tank it.

Kabuto was special back then he had considerable feats regarding medical ninjustu

But not in terms of durability U_U

 

[Prestonyoko]

Of course it's faulty logic. I even provided you an example.

And besides, that's wrong anyways. Itachi didn't use any genjutsu on his opponents when he fought Naruto and Bee.

He was freed from control by them. Smh *Facepalm*

Your done, your just looking for attention I already proved my point.

Where's T Bogard? That's who I really want to argue with.

 

[Bronze]

Your proof is rather but an opinion.

 

[Lucidus]

Thank you



Orochimaru can use Reaper Death Seal as well. So Minato's Fans zhouldnt be leaning on that for defeat, infact its not even defeat. Tf?

Orochimaru has Uzamaki Mask so that must count for something in his aid.



No it isn't, that's what you want to think bit the reality of it is that EVERY single fight Itachi has been in he has trapped his opponent in Genjutsu in some shape or form. It proves Minato has no choice of escaping Genjutsu or even getting around it.



I feel like I'm talking to a wall, its pointless debating with you.I flawed all your logic but you still come at me.

Whatever.



Who are you refering this to?

no orochimaru does not know the technique has he wasnt even aware of it until hiruzen used it and took his arms.. the mask only unseals the seal by hurting the user and how can he undo the seal if he is within the seal remember that..

also i am not leaning on RDS for anything.. u just didnt no what RDS meant so i told you that was all

 

[Ryanel]

Wow first Itachi Fanboys Now Oro Fanboys are at it. Face it oro not stronger than any Minato to the point when he revived minato and the had a short convo about some crap and oro to minato that minato is underestimating him. Manga portrayl of who is stronger which is manga fact not fanboy crap. Read before spouting nonsense Manga>>Fanboy Any minato>>Oro

 

[To Whatever]

Yes he does. Tsunade is known to crush boulders with her fists and even some weak v3 susanos while giant rasengan of naruto failed miserably vs rib cage. Orochimaru took her rampage like nothing.
I disagree. In fact rasengan gets more hype then it's worth, then you call it plot armor when people tank it.

Tsunade had her yin seal released when she punched the rib cages and punched madara.

Orochimaru didn't get punched by her in that state so don't compare them.Plus, Tsunade wasn't trying to kill Orochimaru.

Tanking a Rasengan from a part 1 Naruto isn't a durability feat? Back then, it not instantly KO'ing him was amazing.

 

[Denzel Washington]

He was freed from control by them. Smh *Facepalm*

Your done, your just looking for attention I already proved my point.

Where's T Bogard? That's who I really want to argue with.

what are you talking about? You said he has put all of his opponents under Genjutsu, and I just proved you wrong; he never put Naruto or Bee under Genjutsu in their fight.

Stop trolling. Just because an event happens multiple times doesn't mean that event will always occur.

I doubt T Bogard wants to waste much of his time on you.

 

[Prestonyoko]

1 and 2. Lol, Obito has Zetsu's body, which is tough and regenerative and did not save him from being significantly hurt.

In fact, he lost an arm to that.

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3. Minato's kunai almost cut off a tail of the 8 tails, he can most certainly cut through those snakes.

4. Doesn't matter to Minato who's a sensor and teleporter.

1 & 2: Yes it did actually? Lost an arm? Your amping to the fullest. He clearly has his arm intact.

3: Through these snakes?

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I didn't think so. Especially all at once? Not even.

4: Yes it does.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1 & 2: Yes it did actually? Lost an arm? Your amping to the fullest. He clearly has his arm intact.

3: Through these snakes?

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I didn't think so. Especially all at once? Not even.

4: Yes it does.

All right. It's official. You don't listen to reason. I see no point in continuing this discussion. I've desicrated your points.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Tsunade had her yin seal released when she punched the rib cages and punched madara.

Orochimaru didn't get punched by her in that state so don't compare them.Plus, Tsunade wasn't trying to kill Orochimaru.

She has strength w/o it, the seal is just for regeneration U_U. Wasnt trying to kill orochimaru? She nearly killed jiraya over him seeing her boobs. Geez

Tanking a Rasengan from a part 1 Naruto isn't a durability feat? Back then, it not instantly KO'ing him was amazing.

KO move isnt a death move. Kabuto has no abnormal durability and with extra healing he tanked it nicely.

Lets say in place of rasengan would be chidori. I dont think that little amount of healing would suffice to cover up a hole in his body.

 

[Smd]

haha your making a thread about minato and yet you don't even know one of his techniques. RDS is reaper of death seal . When he's shedding minato can simply blow his brain out with a rasengan . . It may take oro to shed his skin in less than 10 secs but it's not enough to escape since ftg is instant. Youre making me laugh right now .

we all know that you logic is the true laughable subject.

judging by your previous post which was countered easily

ot- minato isnt beating orochimaru and isnt catching him with RDS

 

[iRefleX]

Orochimaru was said to be a genious you meet once in a millenium and Hiruzen himself stated Orochimaru surpassed him.

It was never stated orichimaru surpassed Hiruzen lmao.

Hiruzen even in his old age was stronger than orichimaru...

Minato loses? Phucking LOL. Minato rapes orochiimaru blindfolded...

 

[Ryanel]

we all know that you logic is the true laughable subject.

judging by your previous post which was countered easily

ot- minato isnt beating orochimaru and isnt catching him with RDS

lol old Hiruzen got him in it. ORO not beating minato ever like Itachi is not beating minato ever. Alive minato>Edo minato (manga fact)>Oro

 

[Prestonyoko]

Your proof is rather but an opinion.

All VS Threads are opiniated.

no orochimaru does not know the technique has he wasnt even aware of it until hiruzen used it and took his arms.. the mask only unseals the seal by hurting the user and how can he undo the seal if he is within the seal remember that..

also i am not leaning on RDS for anything.. u just didnt no what RDS meant so i told you that was all

Didn't he use it to free the Kage's souls...?

All right. It's official. You don't listen to reason. I see no point in continuing this discussion. I've desicrated your points.

No you havnt, & for the last one I just said that to bet it over with, I forgot what you said.

You couldn't prove me wrong so you gave up.

I see it how it is.

 

[Denzel Washington]

All right. It's official. You don't listen to reason. I see no point in continuing this discussion. I've desicrated your points.

Don't worry, my sig sums up this thread basically.

 

[Red Slayer]

Thanks Don't worry about benzy. He will be banned anytime soon anyway U_U

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Jiraya knows Orochimaru as a long time partner yet he thinks no one could compare

it is tale for Naruto xd and jiraiya is good author bahah isn't it obvious...