Orochimaru can defeat Minato: With Proof

[Narutoga]

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[Prestonyoko]

Well its very Clear to me that it seems as if I won this thread.

Nobody has came up with any counter that i have not countered so yay me.

Orochimaru can Officially defeat Minato.

I feel so proud

 

[Nattana]

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Orochimaru doesn't know all of Minato's techniques. Who ever told u that?
And let's being with the fact that Orochimaru defeated Hiruzen with 2 jutsu only. He was laughing at him the whole fight and let the Edo do everything. And Hiruzen wouldn't have even managed to use RDS on Orochimaru if it wasn't for him giving Hiruzen time to even set it up. Orochimaru spared his life because he wanted to see what that technique was.

 

[Nattana]

And thats why he chose Minato over Oro.

Yes. That's why he did it.

 

[Bogard]

Well its very Clear to me that it seems as if I won this thread.

Nobody has came up with any counter that i have not countered so yay me.

Orochimaru can Officially defeat Minato.

I feel so proud

You're a known Minato hater, any discussion with you would have been meaningless

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Well its very Clear to me that it seems as if I won this thread.

Nobody has came up with any counter that i have not countered so yay me.

Orochimaru can Officially defeat Minato.

I feel so proud

Uh, no. I made a detailed reply against your thread that deals with all of your points. (then again, it was on the page that Benzy posted in)

Nope. First off, Minato doesn't have to rely on kunai for FTG. He can mark the ground himself. There's also the matter of shadow clones, so no, he's not without options for FTG. Next is that Marking is not the only method Minato has to use FTG against Orochimaru. Remember this scan?

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Minato has a chakra transfer just like Naruto. Although not as good, it means that with a single touch, Minato can insert his chakra into Orochimaru. This means that even if marking cannot work, he can still use FTG attacks against him.

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As for Orochimaru's regeneration, Mianto's ransengan will definitely injure him. It's not going to overpower his regen, but when Orochimaru regens, Minato can seal him. Don't give me crap about him not being able to do this considering he has a diverse arsenal of seals.

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As for Manda, Toad summons can jump really high and bombard enemies with water style, so while Manda's stronger on the ground, Gamabunta could own him in the sky. Not to mention that thanks to reverse contract seal, Gamabunta only needs to delay Manda.


Minato is definitely stronger than Orochimaru. P.S. Minato's a prodigy as well.

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Jiraya knows what a prodigy is. After all, he knew Orochimaru as well.

 

[Prestonyoko]

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Okay I will.

1: Orochimaru has been in the Forbidden Vault & took Tobirama's Edo Tensei Jutsu & obtained Hashirama's DNA as well. He could of saw Minato's Justu. Also Orochimaru is very aware of Minato's title the "Yellow Flash".

That's all I have for knowing about his abilities.

2: Hiruzen only made it difficult for Orochimaru just bc Hiruzen knew of all the Techniques in the Hidden Leaf Village.

3: Wtf is "RDS"

4: What's he gonna do to Orochimaru when he's shedding? Cut him? Don't male me laugh.

 

[To Whatever]

Obito taking point blank Rasengans to the spine and face are examples of Obito being plot shielded.

Honestly, the force of impact a Rasengan gives isn't something that you can brush off.

In part 1 Naruto managed to hit Kabuto with a novice Rasengan. The force of it blew him back a considerable distance and crushed the rock behind him.

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Kabuto concentrated all his chakra reserves into his abdomen to tank the blow and he still couldn't handle the power of it.

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Minato, the creator of the Rasengan perfected this justu but died before being able to add an element into it, it's safe to say his base Rasengan is stronger, more useful and more potent than Naruto's.


Now that you see the force of a part 1 Rasengan by a new user, see Minato's

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This Rasengan was at point blank range aimed at his spine. Not only that it was without Obito even being able to brace for it. The impact itself destroyed the clearing they fought in.

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Yet it didn't even do enough damage to KO him or impair his spine in anyway. In fact, it only managed to injure his arm.

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The mask break Rasengan is plot shield as well. It was another point blank Rasengan at full power aimed at his face. The impact alone should decapitated him or at least broke his neck. Instead it was nerfed to the point where it felt like a really strong punch. Not to mention Naruto rammed it into his face.

My point is that you cannot say Orochimaru can just tank Minato's Rasengan when he FTG marks him.

Also, Minato is faster then Orochimaru by a large margin and Gamabunta has enough experience to deal with Manda and vice versa so that battle would be pretty even.

Not only that, in a fight. Minato will defeat Orochimaru, not kill him. You can't simply kill Orochimaru with less than RDS. So unless Minato wants to die as well he isn't killing Orochimaru. He is defeating him though.

He would probably snake clone feint and run away before he gets overwhelmed.

Which would probably be around the time Minato managed to mark him, leading Oro to shed and then back the **** off

 

[Prestonyoko]

You're a known Minato hater, any discussion with you would have been meaningless

I don't truly hate Minato, I hate his butthurt Fans & senseless Logic on how Minato can do anything or defeat anybody.

But that doesnt mean that I would have a reasonable about him.

1: Can't defeat Orochimaru he lack raw power.

2: Can't defeat Itachi bc he has no counter for Genjutsu.

What you have to understand is that being a Sensor doesn't mean anything, its pointless to know your under Tsukuyomi bc you cannot break it anyways.

And every single fight Itachi has been in he has trapped his opponent in Genjutsu, all of them. This just proves the point that Minato will fall under Genjutsu regardless.


I'm sorry but it is what it is.

 

[AlphaScythian]

@SimbaPrides

Obito stopping a sword with mere hand is also a plot device?
Obito has durability, he had hole in his chest and acted like it was nothing. Mask was made of durable materials too.

Orochimaru is also tough, minato's rasengan wont take him out

Kabuto was nothing special back then. Your arguments are mute.

 

[Lucidus]

Okay I will.

1: Orochimaru has been in the Forbidden Vault & took Tobirama's Edo Tensei Jutsu & obtained Hashirama's DNA as well. He could of saw Minato's Justu. Also Orochimaru is very aware of Minato's title the "Yellow Flash".

That's all I have for knowing about his abilities.

2: Hiruzen only made it difficult for Orochimaru just bc Hiruzen knew of all the Techniques in the Hidden Leaf Village.

3: Wtf is "RDS"

4: What's he gonna do to Orochimaru when he's shedding? Cut him? Don't male me laugh.

RDS = Reaper death seal

essentially minato can always end a match in a stalemate :|

 

[Denzel Washington]

I don't truly hate Minato, I hate his butthurt Fans & senseless Logic on how Minato can do anything or defeat anybody.

But that doesnt mean that I would have a reasonable about him.

1: Can't defeat Orochimaru he lack raw power.

2: Can't defeat Itachi bc he has no counter for Genjutsu.

What you have to understand is that being a Sensor doesn't mean anything, its pointless to know your under Tsukuyomi bc you cannot break it anyways.

And every single fight Itachi has been in he has trapped his opponent in Genjutsu, all of them. This just proves the point that Minato will fall under Genjutsu regardless.


I'm sorry but it is what it is.

Rasengan to the back obliterates Orochimaru.

Orochimaru has zero feats that suggest he can keep up with Minato's speed.

@Bold

That's faulty logic and does not hold up in a debate. Gaara's sand had blocked every attack that ever came at it, but it couldn't block Lee's.

 

[AlphaScythian]

RDS = Reaper death seal

essentially minato can always end a match in a stalemate :|

Unless oro with chop his head with kusanagi

 

[frbro82]

Okay I will.

1: Orochimaru has been in the Forbidden Vault & took Tobirama's Edo Tensei Jutsu & obtained Hashirama's DNA as well. He could of saw Minato's Justu. Also Orochimaru is very aware of Minato's title the "Yellow Flash".

That's all I have for knowing about his abilities.

2: Hiruzen only made it difficult for Orochimaru just bc Hiruzen knew of all the Techniques in the Hidden Leaf Village.

3: Wtf is "RDS"

4: What's he gonna do to Orochimaru when he's shedding? Cut him? Don't male me laugh.

haha your making a thread about minato and yet you don't even know one of his techniques. RDS is reaper of death seal . When he's shedding minato can simply blow his brain out with a rasengan . . It may take oro to shed his skin in less than 10 secs but it's not enough to escape since ftg is instant. Youre making me laugh right now .

 

[Lucidus]

Unless oro with chop his head with kusanagi

lol if he gets the chance..

either way i tend to leave RDS out of the debate when debating about minato as its not exactly fair :/ same reason why people leave out edo tensei

 

[Nattana]

haha your making a thread about minato and yet you don't even know one of his techniques. RDS is reaper of death seal . When he's shedding minato can simply blow his brain out with a rasengan . . It may take oro to shed his skin in less than 10 secs but it's not enough to escape since ftg is instant. Youre making me laugh right now .

Oh God, I've shat on you so many times already and I could do it again, but I don't feel like wasting any more time on you.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Got to love it when your arguments are ignored. It demonstrates that your opponents don't have a counter.

 

[AlphaScythian]

lol if he gets the chance..

either way i tend to leave RDS out of the debate when debating about minato as its not exactly fair :/ same reason why people leave out edo tensei

While performing RDS minato is immobile kusanagi can be used.
Oro would beat hiruzen back then if he choped his head off instead of heart wound.

RDS is a draw anyway so it cant be used as winning move like Edo tensei

 

[Prestonyoko]

Uh, no. I made a detailed reply against your thread that deals with all of your points. (then again, it was on the page that Benzy posted in)

Obito taking point blank Rasengans to the spine and face are examples of Obito being plot shielded.

Honestly, the force of impact a Rasengan gives isn't something that you can brush off.

In part 1 Naruto managed to hit Kabuto with a novice Rasengan. The force of it blew him back a considerable distance and crushed the rock behind him.

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Kabuto concentrated all his chakra reserves into his abdomen to tank the blow and he still couldn't handle the power of it.

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Minato, the creator of the Rasengan perfected this justu but died before being able to add an element into it, it's safe to say his base Rasengan is stronger, more useful and more potent than Naruto's.


Now that you see the force of a part 1 Rasengan by a new user, see Minato's

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This Rasengan was at point blank range aimed at his spine. Not only that it was without Obito even being able to brace for it. The impact itself destroyed the clearing they fought in.

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Yet it didn't even do enough damage to KO him or impair his spine in anyway. In fact, it only managed to injure his arm.

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The mask break Rasengan is plot shield as well. It was another point blank Rasengan at full power aimed at his face. The impact alone should decapitated him or at least broke his neck. Instead it was nerfed to the point where it felt like a really strong punch. Not to mention Naruto rammed it into his face.

My point is that you cannot say Orochimaru can just tank Minato's Rasengan when he FTG marks him.

Also, Minato is faster then Orochimaru by a large margin and Gamabunta has enough experience to deal with Manda and vice versa so that battle would be pretty even.

Not only that, in a fight. Minato will defeat Orochimaru, not kill him. You can't simply kill Orochimaru with less than RDS. So unless Minato wants to die as well he isn't killing Orochimaru. He is defeating him though.

He would probably snake clone feint and run away before he gets overwhelmed.

Which would probably be around the time Minato managed to mark him, leading Oro to shed and then back the **** off

What you both need to understand.

1: Minato's basic Rasengan won't hurt Orochimaru to the extent everybody wants to think.

2: Obito walked away from "Minato's" Rasengan, Kabuto didnt. Does that mean Naruto's Rasengan is stronger than Minato's?

3: When Minato engages Orochimaru in close combat after knowing its pointless to runaway, Orochimaru puts him in "Binding Snake Glare Spell". Rendering him unable to move & Orochimaru finishes him off.

4: The Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky, plays a big part in this as well, it levitates at Orochimaru's Finger tips coming from all angles.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Obito stomps oro.