Oro has a subtle Endgame...and it's Terrifying.

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Theory/Observation: Orochimaru's quest for immortality coincides gently with his endgame which has been the same through the series. Remain immortal and undefeated, with his 'Professor' goal he inherited from Hiruzen to master every jutsu and become the ultimate lifeform, except unlike his predecessor- Orochimaru knows the key to knowledge...perseverance.

But why DOES Orochimaru want eternal life? He's not like Tsunade, obsessed with vanity or Onoki, desperately holding onto life as a cliche coffin-dodger..Oro's intent has always been ambiguous and changing. Or maybe- it's never changed at all.

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Think about Oro's point of view. He is an old immortal, almost 100 by the time of Gaiden and keeps progressively getting younger. His motive about 'watching Sasuke's wind' and the guise of being peaceful with Konoha could easily be just...a temporary solution.

He is aware that he could be stamped out in this time era with actual gods watching over Konoha & dealing with the last of the Ootsutsuki. Just like Orochimaru let Team 7 deal with the Akatsuki for him, Oro seems to be doing the same with them and the Ootsutuski- not getting involved in any interstellar threats when he clearly could've been of help for his planet if it were a true alliance.

And so...even though he is weaker, Naruto and Sasuke can't conquer old age. And Orochimaru's intent may be to simply outlast them both. Like a true snake, it's a natural survival/hunting instinct of larger snakes. And a well-known fact that you can't out-wait a snake.

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This is instantly scary and reaffirms Orochimaru as a constant threat of this world. Just because he seems placcid and not battle-ready in his current form says nothing about the ominous nature of keeping him in the world. How does Mitsuki play into this? A peace offering between Konoha and the Sound? An unconscious spy into keeping an eye on the next generation. Just in case they turn out to be nearly as strong. Look at the expression below, it's not his usual sly smile like he should have in this scene. Is that concern for a Uchiha predecessor? A possible future enemy.

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sounds pathetic but not as bad as madara biting someone lol
 

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sounds pathetic but not as bad as madara biting someone lol

Haha, Madara only wanted a longer life so he could manipulate the next generation. Oro's ambition is literally being the last one standing.
 

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Haha, Madara only wanted a longer life so he could manipulate the next generation. Oro's ambition is literally being the last one standing.

Off topic: I love your sig, kyoshi warriors are bae.

On topic: Yes Oro just wants to see the world evolve to its end.
 
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Oro will succede in this endeavor as its only a matter of time. Before both Naruto and Sasuke croak from old age many years from then!
 
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooh shiiiiiiit

How did i not even consider this, it's so simple haha. Turns out Orochimarus motivation isnt that complicated or unexplored ata ll its actually the same as always and theres actually no way for Naruto or sasuke to beat him. Even if he stays quiet with Hokage Sarada and future hero Bolt- Naruto and Sasuke's presence and Generation are clearly a Golden Age in power and when that fades away there will ALWAYS be a weak spot for Oro to outlast everybody or affirm his control.
 

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Off topic: I love your sig, kyoshi warriors are bae.

On topic: Yes Oro just wants to see the world evolve to its end.

The world? Or his end? Orochimaru may be strange but a conscientious observer isn't how i'd describe him when this is a guy who tried invading the leaf. He keeps to himself but when Orochimaru stands a chance of winning a fight, he's a man of action.

The snake out-waits its prey. That's an actual snake's nature and survival tactic.

edit: pssst it's also transparent, I photoshopped Suki, take her for a spin haha
 

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I like your theory, and Orochimaru is one of my favorite characters for sure. I can totally see him being so patient to just wait for his hour... it makes much more sense than him suddenly having a change of soul, given his age and intelligence.
 

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Lol, that's a pretty lame tactic but I believe he can become the bad ass he once was in part one.
 

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Lol, that's a pretty lame tactic.

Why? It's completely in line with his character haha

It means that by being the best in another alternative field, you can still win. Which is what's always interested me with the Sound bunch. Honestly, if I had the means to remain immortal and all the mortals playing into my hands i'd feel pretty empowered and be looking down on the entire NV.
 

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The world? Or his end? Orochimaru may be strange but a conscientious observer isn't how i'd describe him when this is a guy who tried invading the leaf. He keeps to himself but when Orochimaru stands a chance of winning a fight, he's a man of action.

The snake out-waits its prey. That's an actual snake's nature and survival tactic.

edit: pssst it's also transparent, I photoshopped Suki, take her for a spin haha

Well Oro does always have something up his sleeves but when I say he wants to see the world evolve to its end I mean absorbing everything that transpires (jutsu wise/intellectual wise) to its end.

A creeper version of Vandal Savage in a sense.
 

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Well Oro does always have something up his sleeves but when I say he wants to see the world evolve to its end I mean absorbing everything that transpires (jutsu wise/intellectual wise) to its end.

A creeper version of Vandal Savage in a sense.

I see no reason these two motives shouldn't coincide! :)

I mean take a look at Oro's moveset. The thing is expansive and ridiculously huge. And he's just gaining more and more knowledge, talking about how simple DNA has become to him in Gaiden and creating a new son lifeform.
 

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I see no reason these two motives shouldn't coincide! :)

I mean take a look at Oro's moveset. The thing is expansive and ridiculously huge. And he's just gaining more and more knowledge, talking about how simple DNA has become to him in Gaiden and creating a new son lifeform.

Oro is the future!
 

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Oro is the future!

....The way Kishi has left it? Honestly he is. S'*****n scary.

Ninshuu can't be a perfect messiah system whilst you have liars and somebody with a universal agenda like this.
 

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I feel like the title promised more than it delivered.
 

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Well, Naruto would eventually die, but Sasuke claimed that he could attain immortality due to having the Rinnegan.

Therefore, Naruto dies off whereas Sasuke solo neg-diffs Orochimaru when the time comes. :lol
 

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Well, Naruto would eventually die, but Sasuke claimed that he could attain immortality due to having the Rinnegan.

Therefore, Naruto dies off whereas Sasuke solo neg-diffs Orochimaru when the time comes. :lol

Ridiculous. The scan of Sasuke aiming for immortality please...
 
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