[Discussion] Opinions, opinions, opinions

[Capn]

So, I'm pretty new to the board and noticed that a few of you had some intriguing viewpoints that I've never encountered on quite a few topics. That got me thinking and now I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies.

10 questions.

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

2. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

3. Current Luffy > Doffy?

4. Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

 

[Punk Hazard]

1. Akainu won. Akainu would kill old Whitebeard.

2. Yeah.

3. Possibly not

4. Zoro high-extreme diff

5. By all indications, no.

6. More than likely held his own

7. Eh, they're all in the same ballpark in their prime

8. Kaido

9. I believe so

10. For the most part, yes

 

[Chikombo]

I thought this was gonna be like shoot police shoot people or is the hijab a symbol of oppression instead it was one piece.

 

[Oblivionx]

1. About equal (WB might edge just a lil)

2. He is below shanks and admiral level.
3. Probably

4. Mid to high for now for zoro. Might change in future when zoro shows his true power.

5. Nah

6. Dunno. Probably mid diff.

7. In prime Roger > WB=Garp

8. Just speculation between shanks, BB and kaido.

9. Obviously

10. Admiral < Yonkou. Just a little.

 

[Guntah]

1. I don't really remember how the battle went, but I'm fairly sure that Old Whitebeard would beat pre timeskip Akainu pretty handily on one on one.

2. Doubtful. Especially since we have very little idea of what Shanks' power level really is. We've only seen a bit of his battle capacity after all.

3. No. Luffy needed aid to beat Doffy, but in a one on one, I doubt he'd have gone down so easily

4. I believe Zoro, especially since we are yet to see his full PTS power in a fight.

5. He was technically a Yonkou commander, so I'd assume so.

6. Again, we still don't know what PTS Blackbeard is capable of. He did probably hand Marco a big ass L though.

7. IMO Roger> Whitebeard> Garp

8. This one is hard. I wanna say Shanks, but its possibly Kaido. PTS Blackbeard hasn't appeared yet, so that might be something worth looking out for. Akainu is obviously also really high level.

9. Hm....yes, or at least around the same level.

10. Grand Admiral for me would slightly rank above Yonkou, which would rank slightly above Admiral.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

10 questions.

Aight

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

WB, akainu was stronger overall

. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

No because Shanks title puts him above Mihawk as well.

Current Luffy > Doffy?

Nah

Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

Zoro extreme diff

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

Probably but no indication so you can't use it in a debate

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

He clealry held on his own otherwise it wouldn't be war

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

All around the same level. Roger should be stronger but not sure about WB

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

Kaido

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

Yes obviously

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

Not equal but at the same tier, but you might or phrase it that way

 

[Bogard]

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

Whitebeard was stronger. He won their bout while half dead already.

2. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

Of course

3. Current Luffy > Doffy?

Could go either way for now. I'm waiting for a more evident jump point after his off-panel fight with Cracker

4. Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

Zoro mid diffs

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

Of course, he displayed color of conqueror in his youth

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

I believe Marco held his own in his 1 on 1 but overall the Blackbeard pirates held an overwhelming victory. People often forget a 1 on 1 is different from a war

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

Of course. Garp has no hype even close to their own

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

Kaido, manga says so

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

I have Ace slightly stronger for now until proven wrong

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

I'd say on average a yonkou is slightly stronger than an admiral, but they are on the same level regardless

 

[chopstickchakra]

So, I'm pretty new to the board and noticed that a few of you had some intriguing viewpoints that I've never encountered on quite a few topics. That got me thinking and now I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies.

10 questions.

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

When you say old WB do you mean MF WB or literally just old? Because if we look back we'll realize WB at MF wasn't just old he was ill and off his meds. Those two things are very different imo. Old WB>Old, sick MF WB. Also I wouldn't use MF as an example of Akainu's victory either since he waited until WB had some damage and exerted some force so to base a 1v1 decision off of that instance isn't apples to apples to me. I would argue WB won most all of the instances between the two at MF despite his ailment but overall because of said ailment Akainu could be considered all around stronger.

2. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

I don't believe the WSS title alone automatically places him above Shanks in an all out fight. He may end up being above Shanks but it won't be because of his swordsmanship only, if he is revealed to be above Shanks than his haki will also be higher than Shanks' as will his physical power. I think he could likely beat any Yonkou's commander 1v1 but I am not sold that he'd beat any Yonkou 1v1.

3. Current Luffy > Doffy?

Based on the gap at the end of DR I don't really see how he could be unless he's drastically extended his G4 duration, which is a possibility since he managed to keep it going for 11 hours against Cracker.

4. Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

Extreme diff either way.

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

I feel Ace should have haki but there is no indication he did. That said I feel the indications weren't there because we as readers weren't supposed to know much about haki then and it was over looked. Logically there's no reason Ace didn't have haki other than Oda chose not to give it to him.

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

The way I interpreted it, BB Pirates stomped the remnants, Marco included.

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

Only slightly if at all.

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

Kaidou

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

This is tricky because I see Sabo as how Ace should be and I'd say they're close with Luffy's G4 edging it out. The Ace we know though, with no haki, absolutely.

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

Idk, I'm not 100% that an Admiral could 1v1 a Yonkou and I'm not sure they couldn't. It may depend on the contestants.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Based on the gap at the end of DR I don't really see how he could be unless he's drastically extended his G4 duration, which is a possibility since he managed to keep it going for 11 hours against Cracker.

Special circumstances. Gear Fourth runs on calories, and Luffy had a continuous intake of them by eating Cracker's biscuits throughout the entire thing.

 

[Love Cook]

So, I'm pretty new to the board and noticed that a few of you had some intriguing viewpoints that I've never encountered on quite a few topics. That got me thinking and now I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies.

10 questions.

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

2. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

3. Current Luffy > Doffy?

4. Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

1) I think they're more or less equal at that point in time, but WB had Akainu beat there. If there were no people around he couldve finished it right there.

2) No, I think Mihawk is a step below yonkou captain level. Yonkou commander sounds reasonable. Or that tier that Jimbei was talking about last chapter.

3) I think Luffy wouldn't have won against Doffy without all the help he got. So no

4) Zoro > Sanji High Diff

5) Hinted but never shown, on his level you expect him to have it. But he took it to the grave.

6) Held his own because his is still out there.

7) Give Garp Sengoku and I think it's close to a tie. 2 vs 1 is too much

8) Strongest in the verse right now is Kaidou

9) Yes Luffy now is over Ace's last portrayal

10) Admiral is a small step below yonkou.

 

[Magi]

1. WB
2. Between the two
3. Yea
4. Yea
5. Mid
6. Yea
7. Yea
8. Kaido
9. Yea
10. No

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

THIs thread is going to f*** everyone's day up :|

 

[LBeezy]

So, I'm pretty new to the board and noticed that a few of you had some intriguing viewpoints that I've never encountered on quite a few topics. That got me thinking and now I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies.

*says he's "new to the board"*

*creates a thread literally asking the most argued topics in this section*

1. Old Whitebeard vs Akainu- who won their bout at marineford? Who was stronger overall?

No one "won"..

Whitebeard was stronger overall.

2. Mihawk- Does the WSS title place him above Shanks? Is he Admiral+ or just Yonkou commander level, maybe lower?

No.

He's Yonko/Admiral level I suppose.

3. Current Luffy > Doffy?

Of course.

4. Zoro vs Sanji? What diff?

Zoro.

Idk what difficulty..

5. Ace- Haki or nah?

What was shown?

6. The Payback war- Did BB stomp Marco or do you believe he held his own?

Idk..

7. Whitebeard and Roger > Garp?

=

8. Who's the current strongest in the verse?

It isn't just ONE character.. different match ups can go different ways between the top tiers..

9. Current Luffy > Ace?

Yes.

10. Admiral = Yonkou?

Very close.

I think some Yonko are stronger than some admirals though..

 

[Capn]

*says he's "new to the board"*

*creates a thread literally asking the most argued topics in this section*

These are the most argued topics throughout the entire fandom, which is LITERALLY the exact reason why I made this thread. To see what this board thinks about the most controversial topics. That didn't actually manage to go over your head, did it?

 

[LBeezy]

These are the most argued topics throughout the entire fandom, which is LITERALLY the exact reason why I made this thread. To see what this board thinks about the most controversi topics. That didn't actually manage to go over your head, did it?

No, I'm glad that someone who is so knowledgeable on the entire fandom made a bait thread like this..
Maybe Oda will bless us with his presence and give us some groundbreaking answers that no board has ever seen before. :elmo:

 

[Capn]

No, I'm glad that someone who is so knowledgeable on the entire fandom made a bait thread like this..
Maybe Oda will bless us with his presence and give us some groundbreaking answers that no board has ever seen before. :elmo:

"I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies" <--

Astoundingly, this has indeed flown right over your head. The entire point of this post was, indicated by the literal title, to garner opinions on these matters from this board in particular.

Objective answers to these questions do not exist, nor were they ever the goal. Grade-A reading comprehension though, m9.

 

[LBeezy]

"I'm pretty curious as to your takes on a few controversies" <--

Astoundingly, this has indeed flown right over your head. The entire point of this post was, indicated by the literal title, to garner opinions on these matters from this board in particular.

Objective answers to these questions do not exist, nor were they ever the goal. Grade-A reading comprehension though, m9.

Translation:

"The entire point of this post was to get people to debate and argue their opinions."


Gr8 b8 m8 rate 8/8


Btw, objective answers do exist for some of those questions, IF Oda were to answer them straight up in black and white.. and hey, like I said, maybe he'll stop by this thread and bless us with some answers. :sdo3:

I wouldn't hold my breath though if I were you..

 

[Capn]

Translation:

"The entire point of this post was to get people to debate and argue their opinions."


Gr8 b8 m8 rate 8/8


Btw, objective answers do exist for some of those questions, IF Oda were to answer them straight up in black and white.. and hey, like I said, maybe he'll stop by this thread and bless us with some answers. :sdo3:

I wouldn't hold my breath though if I were you..

Ironically, discussion and debate are the entire point of discussion forums. Critical thinking clearly isn't your thing, but why else would I be on a discussion forum if not to engage others and assert my opinion? Lol. As stated in my first post, I'm interested in the opinions of others on this forum and will actively disagree with anyone who I feel is incorrect. Oops.

Also, by that logic Oda can give an objective answer to anything, not just "some". He's GOD, for all intents and purposes. My statement was clearly meant in conjunction with evidence from the manga. That too, must have went over your head.

Really putting that extra Mmph into the L in L Beezy, arencha'?

 

[LBeezy]

Ironically, discussion and debate are the entire point of discussion forums. Critical thinking clearly isn't your thing, but why else would I be on a discussion forum if not to engage others and assert my opinion? Lol. As stated in my first post, I'm interested in the opinions of others on this forum and will actively disagree with anyone who I feel is incorrect. Oops.

Also, by that logic Oda can give an objective answer to anything, not just "some". He's GOD, for all intents and purposes. My statement was clearly meant in conjunction with evidence from the manga. That too, must have went over your head.

Really putting that extra Mmph into the L in L Beezy, arencha'?

So... ironically, I've been right this whole time.

Lol

 

[chopstickchakra]

Special circumstances. Gear Fourth runs on calories, and Luffy had a continuous intake of them by eating Cracker's biscuits throughout the entire thing.

I'm not saying he can go for 11 hours straight now but it could and probably has been extended through the cracker fight. It was his second time using it and the more you use something the more you're accustomed to it plus I'm figuring that the steady extended use would help Luffy adjust to it quicker than random uses spread over long gaps of time. It's not a guarantee his limit expanded but I'm thinking it did.