How you know I was bouta drop them facts on you.
Yes, leaving someone with the strength to take on all but two of your commanders, a former Shichibukai and dozens of other pirates with minor wounds and no sign of slowing down is defeating them, marvelous.
Oda clearly portrayed WB as superior in that encounter but whatever. Even if Akainu was somehow stronger than WB when they fought off the second time, WB was stronger than him before he received all of his injuries and Marco commented on how WB has had a noticeable decrease in strength since his prime.
Roger and WB are underrated since some people think any top tier can push them to extreme diff.
And who are those people? A few, right? I don't see how that makes those characters underrated here since it's the minority who believes that any top tier can push them to extreme diff. It's not overrating if they do believe that either lol. There's people who think WB/Roger can mid diff. admirals dude.
Okay? I am not doubting that Whitebeard is stronger. Just not this much. Marco noted a decrease in his reaction speed. Never was it indicated that Whitebeard's damage output was reduced, just his reaction speed and stamina. For all we know, his Gura powers were unaffected by his age. But I digress. It's far more sensible for the top tiers of a series to be able to extreme diff each other. The fact that Whitebeard unleashing his wrath on Akainu only managed to slow him down is testament to that.
Because thinking the strongest the protagonist side has to offer can match up the strongest the antagonist side has to offer in a work of fiction is just asinine.
Overrated:
Whitebeard had a decrease in reaction speed, lost his Observation Haki, and lost his Kings Haki, which you are making seem like a very tiny decrease in strength. Why would they even bother naming WB the WSM if any other top tier could push him to extreme diff? Crocodile doesn't have Haki, the other pirates helping the division commanders don't have Haki, and we don't even know which division commanders besides Marco, Jozu, and Vista have Haki or not, so Akainu not receiving any serious injuries during his short fight with the division commanders isn't as impressive as you're making it out to be.
You do know that WB suffered more during that battle, right? Yes, I know it a wounded WB but I thought I'd make that clear for you and as Riker mentioned here, Akainu was still able to take on the rest of the WB commanders & Croc. after his battle with WB. Look what happened to WB after his battle with Akainu, look who he lost to.
Aside from the Vergo scenario, I doubt Zoro would of been able to save the crew. I don't see how thinking Sanji is close to Zoro would be overrating his character, if they suggest Sanji is stronger or perhaps even equal then yeah you could say that's overrating.
Are you really comparing Monet to Vergo? Monet got one shot'd by Tashigi right after. Smoker got beaten to a "pulp" because he was trying to retrieve Law's heart back.
How does that make him overrated then?
He is & it's not much a stretch to state that so I don't see how that makes him underrated. BB and his crew ran off from Akainu and BB recently got his GGnM powers, I don't see how he can master that and be competent in haki over a 2 year TS. We don't know how strong Big Mam or the rest of the yonko's, they just have hype.
It's more laughable that people think WB/Roger can mid diff a top tier.
Same reason as above.
Read the quoted part again, but I don't think you understand it :sdo:, since you quoted it and your eyes only zoomed to the "wank" part.
So I'll say that you accepted the vergo scenario? Sanji got his bone cracked. Now wait for it.
I am not comparing Monet with vergo, I am comparing how a Logia was unable to bring herself together without anything like Radio knife being used on her. And Tashigi one shotted her, cause Zoro had already finished the fight.What? Smoker was hunting vergo, he would never help a pirate unless that was the only thing he could have done in that scenario. If he could have, he would have knocked out vergo and then handed Law his heart back LOL try something call common sense next time. Smoker helped Law as a last resort.
Errm Mr. :sdo:, maybe because it was that they don't have a substantial proof but still think vergo was stronger than Pica which some people consider an example of over-rating.
Yes the rest of the yonkou just have hype, while BB has "Yami Yami no mi - strongest Logia df" & "Gura Gura no mi - one of the most destructive paramecia type" + He already showed a pretty good use of the Gura Gura no mi against Sengoku (at least almost all the attacks WB showed), so I don't know where this mastered shit comes from. He also took control of all the WB territory, do you think the other Yonkou would have let him do that?
So you self proclaimed that all admirals are in the same league as Prime WB and Prime Roger and that makes more sense, yeah right.
And if you would try to understand the fact that it was another thread + your bosom buddy Riker salad was the one who used that word first.
Read the quoted part again, but I don't think you understand it :sdo:, since you quoted it and your eyes only zoomed to the "wank" part.
So I'll say that you accepted the vergo scenario? Sanji got his bone cracked. Now wait for it.
What? Smoker was hunting vergo, he would never help a pirate unless that was the only thing he could have done in that scenario. If he could have, he would have knocked out vergo and then handed Law his heart back LOL try something call common sense next time. Smoker helped Law as a last resort.
Errm Mr. :sdo:, maybe because it was that they don't have a substantial proof but still think vergo was stronger than Pica which some people consider an example of over-rating.
And we go back to sanji, if we have no way of telling if Vergo was stronger or weaker than Pica, then considering either of those scenarios. We have Zoro who defeated a FBH without strechting it far while we have sanji who got his Leg cracked against a FBH user. So, I don't think they are close no.
Yes the rest of the yonkou just have hype, while BB has "Yami Yami no mi - strongest Logia df" & "Gura Gura no mi - one of the most destructive paramecia type" + He already showed a pretty good use of the Gura Gura no mi against Sengoku (at least almost all the attacks WB showed), so I don't know where this mastered shit comes from. He also took control of all the WB territory, do you think the other Yonkou would have let him do that?
So the rest of the yonkou only have hype while BB has all the above things. No wonder he is weaker :sdo:
So you self proclaimed that all admirals are in the same league as Prime WB and Prime Roger and that makes more sense, yeah right.
And if you would try to understand the fact that it was another thread + your bosom buddy Riker salad was the one who used that word first.
That's it for today's the :sdo: show.
I don't understand how it's same as him getting overrated though. He was chosen to be Rogers successor by PK himself.Rayleigh who was noted to be closest to Roger implied that Luffy's hat isn't for show.You need to have certain qualities to be wroth of being a man that can wear it.. Being one of three people with right qualities to wear Roger's hat with two of them being PK and future PK says a lot about his potential. You could actually say that Shanks is the current undisputed king of seas in OP.
