One Piece must be a boring series if...

[Hexuze]

I understand why people rate OP a 9/10 or 10/10 series because the flaws that the series has don't really impact the story. Unlike other series, their flaws do negatively impact the story, i.e. plot holes in Naruto. People don't complain about OP cause there's barely any plot holes in the series. The only "plot hole" is BB eating 2 DF's but really? Oda is obviously going to address that later on. OP is a damn near perfect series, it's the closest to perfection but I don't think it's perfect.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

So basically you dislike the One Piece fans and therefore don't know whether you should read it? How does that relate to the thread title?

One Piece isn't flawless. But it's a fantastic Manga. Much better than Naruto and Bleach which I thank the heavens for bringing to a close very soon.

The thing you seem to be unaware of is that on the base the One Piece fans get all of the bashing due to Naruto fans on here (most of whom haven't even tried reading it) being to close minded and think anyone who disagrees with them is below them. If you see One Piece fans on NB bashing other Manga it will be due to pent up frustration. We get picked on too.

I recommend picking up One Piece again, right now before it gets too long to simply catch up to.

 

[David1996]

It's fantastic but the fanboys are giving it a bad name.

 

[Hexuze]

In terms of shounen I'd rank one piece as followed

Hunter X Hunter>=One Piece=Toriko>>Naruto>Bleach>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fairy tail

One piece isn't flawless but it's one damn good manga. The first few arcs are a bit slow but once you reach the Grandline part of the story things pick up dramatically. One piece is one of those manga that get better over time (story wise, fight wise, character wise, even art design wise). Arcs like Ennies loby, Empel down, Marine ford, Dressrosa, Alabasta, are some of my fav arcs out of any manga period.

The thing that sets OP apart from Naruto/Bleach/Fairy tail is the amount of content we get per chapter. There isn't a single wasted panel, we get so much detail and stuff going on in a single chapter that you wonder how much does Oda really have in store for us to keep this manga going for another 7 or so years.

One piece just leaves that fulfillment and satisfaction inside that most other manga's doesn't give me on a weekly basis. The time and effort put into one piece will make it seem like a monthly manga instead of a weekly one. It leaves me constantly guessing what's going to happen next and it's been a long time since I've been bored with one piece

But Like I said it's not the best manga out there but definitely worth reading if you a sense of adventure, fights, great story, likable characters, action, plot twists, wide range of character abilities and so on...

I used to be one of those people who thought OP was shitty and nothing compared to naruto/bleach because I've only seen a few ep's of it on TV back when It aired years ago. This all changed once I actually gave it a shot and read the manga and caught up to realize that OP is one hell of a good manga

This but I don't think HxH is even near OP...yet. If togashi keeps up what he's currently doing, I'd say they'll be damn near equals but OP is just getting started as well since we recently entered the new world. The Dark continent is so f*cking good.

 

[jiraiya lives]

This but I don't think HxH is even near OP...yet. If togashi keeps up what he's currently doing, I'd say they'll be damn near equals but OP is just getting started as well since we recently entered the new world. The Dark continent is so f*cking good.

Haha maybe I've let the hype of HxH returning cloud my judgement

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

I'm upto date on Naruto and it's honestly very boring I love One Piece though. (the animation is pretty bad right now though but ohwell).

 

[Hexuze]

Haha maybe I've let the hype of HxH returning cloud my judgement

Lol Can't blame you for that since HxH is epic.

I'm upto date on Naruto and it's honestly very boring I love One Piece though. (the animation is pretty bad right now though but ohwell).

It's not the animation that's the problem with the anime. It's the pacing. Honestly, I would love for the OP to get a remake with better pacing and better animation. Just like how HxH got it's "remake" or remaster, w.e. OP anime needs a remake the most right now from Madhouse ofc.

If it does get a remake which is unlikely, it should keep the same VA's & the classic OST's with new revamped ones.

 

[Olorin]

Haha maybe I've let the hype of HxH returning cloud my judgement

I agree OP, Toriko and HxH are EASILY the top 3 shonen, no contest, not even by DB(Z)

Though I must say I think that OP is the greatest of those 3

Imo the 3 best manga are OP, Phoenix and Berserk (all for different reasons)

PS OMFG I forgot Phoenix is also a Shonen :/

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I agree OP, Toriko and HxH are EASILY the top 3 shonen, no contest, not even by DB(Z)

Though I must say I think that OP is the greatest of those 3

Imo the 3 best manga are OP, Phoenix and Berserk (all for different reasons)

PS OMFG I forgot Phoenix is also a Shonen :/

Good job bro!

I've heard good things about Phoenix, I'll probably read it soon

IMO the three best Shounen are:
OP, HxH and either Shaman King, Toriko or HSDK (I think that's a Shounen anyways...)

I'm still trying to figure out the origins of the thread title, which had absolutely nothing to do with the post, or any later comments.

 

[Olorin]

Good job bro!

I've heard good things about Phoenix, I'll probably read it soon

IMO the three best Shounen are:
OP, HxH and either Shaman King, Toriko or HSDK (I think that's a Shounen anyways...)

I'm still trying to figure out the origins of the thread title, which had absolutely nothing to do with the post, or any later comments.

The title is what it is because he wanted ppl to storm into his thread, negative titles in this section usually go for pages since randoms who would never normally be in this section surge in in hordes

As for Phoenix it's a really hard manga to find since it was never scalated and eng volumes are quite rare

 

[Gorosei]

This will be a long response. I'll simply give my thoughts on some of the points you brought up.

I plan to try to after Naruto is over or perhaps very soon, but if there is little to no criticism and nine out of every ten fans believe it is flawless, I believe this will lead to little discussion in several departments and little to no relation between myself and other fans.

No, no and no. 9 out of every 10 fans don't think the show is flawless and I know that by simply being in the One Piece fandom. Sure, the fandom has its extremist, but what fandom doesn't? If you're expecting every fan to be over critical about every minor detail, then, well, that's simply unrealistic. Honestly, I'm sure you won't have any trouble interacting with the One Piece fandom once you get into the series (considering you do).

I can't stand people who regard things as perfect because there is no such thing in this world. Furthermore, these same fans, both of my age group and younger, have bashed several of the series I have read and watched over the years simply out of jealousy or disdain and that alone would make me antagonistic towards them.

I'd have to refer back to every fandom having its extremist. Seriously, it simply can't be helped. There are One Piece fans that will put down every Manga/Anime in the world because they feel One Piece is simply that good. The same can be said for some Naruto fans, or Bleach fans, or Fairy Tail fans, or HxH fans, etc. They are simply fanboys and I think we all know trying to have a logical discussion with a fanboy is like trying to have a logical discussion with a dog... it simply can't be done.

Even further, I believe SJ is overly biased towards the series, ranks it too high and consistently favors and over-advertises it on top of other series, sort of like shoving it down people's throats or using it as propaganda.

Not quite sure how to respond to this one. They simply push the series because it's the face of their brand right now. Companies like this needs something that they consistently count on and One Piece has given them that stability since it pretty much started. One Piece, to my knowledge, came when SJ was looking for the "next" series. They were still transitioning from the post Dragonball era and needed something to take its place. That series just happened to be One Piece.


My final thoughts:
Honestly, only watch One Piece if you're willing to do so with an open mind. The problems you gave weren't necessarily problems with the series itself but outside factors. Like I've mentioned time and time again, all fandoms have their fair share of over zealous fans. Ultimately, however, you are the one that decides if you allow the fanboys/fangirls affect your overall enjoyment of the series. I hope you give One Piece a try and enjoy it as much as I have if you do.

 

[Sherlock.]

It was somewhat interesting in the few first arcs I watched, but it was discontinued at the time and I never picked it up again due to conflicts. I plan to try to after Naruto is over or perhaps very soon, but if there is little to no criticism and nine out of every ten fans believe it is flawless, I believe this will lead to little discussion in several departments and little to no relation between myself and other fans.

I can't stand people who regard things as perfect because there is no such thing in this world. Furthermore, these same fans, both of my age group and younger, have bashed several of the series I have read and watched over the years simply out of jealousy or disdain and that alone would make me antagonistic towards them. Even further, I believe SJ is overly biased towards the series, ranks it too high and consistently favors and over-advertises it on top of other series, sort of like shoving it down people's throats or using it as propaganda.

I will try to pick One Piece back up, but due to all these aspects, it is uncertain I will be able to, or will even want to exchange with its fans, what's more relate to it on its own. If this is too much of a generalization, then by all means tell me and elaborate why. Hell, please encourage that it is so and that I'm only looking at it from one viewpoint because I'd hate for the series to be completely ruined for me due to these issues.

I don't get the point of this thread. You like something you read it. You don't like it you don't read it. Simple as that. I could care less if all of us thought One Piece is flawless or only I was the one thinking that way. And aren't you the guy who negged that guy with Kakuzu avy the other day with a disgusting message(as per that dude) and were posting in that thread with such hate towards the thread's OP calling him names?(what I saw) So I find it funny when you say you "can't stand people who regard things as perfect because there is no such thing in this world" as you lashed out at him for criticising Naruto series Lol Again your 9/10 thinking a series is flawless point makes me wonder whether you read something for enjoyment or whether you read it so that you can argue with the party that disagrees with you. Read it if you like it or don't bother with it really.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

This will be a long response. I'll simply give my thoughts on some of the points you brought up.

No, no and no. 9 out of every 10 fans don't think the show is flawless and I know that by simply being in the One Piece fandom. Sure, the fandom has its extremist, but what fandom doesn't? If you're expecting every fan to be over critical about every minor detail, then, well, that's simply unrealistic. Honestly, I'm sure you won't have any trouble interacting with the One Piece fandom once you get into the series (considering you do).

I'd have to refer back to every fandom having its extremist. Seriously, it simply can't be helped. There are One Piece fans that will put down every Manga/Anime in the world because they feel One Piece is simply that good. The same can be said for some Naruto fans, or Bleach fans, or Fairy Tail fans, or HxH fans, etc. They are simply fanboys and I think we all know trying to have a logical discussion with a fanboy is like trying to have a logical discussion with a dog... it simply can't be done.

Lol no. You don't seem to understand my situation. Literally everywhere I go, no matter the site, no matter the people, it's always "one piece is perfection and everything else is bad or mediocre compared to it." It is like this on all the anime and manga sites I use as well as social media sites and I've grown weary of it. I actually left one or two sites I loved because of it. I can't stand to converse or even be around people like that, and don't tell me there are only a few of them because there are literally thousands, especially in regards to one piece.

Not quite sure how to respond to this one. They simply push the series because it's the face of their brand right now. Companies like this needs something that they consistently count on and One Piece has given them that stability since it pretty much started.

I see. And what happens when One Piece nears an end that fans don't favor or Oda suddenly takes a direction a large group dislikes? What happens if Oda is killed or just becomes tired of the manga and wishes to rush and finish it right away? I'm sorry, but not even one piece will last forever. Everything ends. One way or another. And putting it on a pedestal, advertising it over everything else is just degrading in my opinion. It just shows that they really do only care about money and not their fans. But for me that's no surprise.

One Piece, to my knowledge, came when SJ was looking for the "next" series. They were still transitioning from the post Dragonball era and needed something to take its place. That series just happened to be One Piece.

Yes, and now look at DBZ. It was a great series and still has its iconic traits and fans. However, these days several seem to bash it and call it childish and linear. Toriyama also grew tired of it and stopped and when shounen jump and the anime producers disliked this and wanted to make more bucks, they made their own series that many regard as a disaster. In other words, things happened and it didn't age well with anime and manga fans, but you probably believe nothing of the sorts could ever happen to one piece, right? How about Naruto and Bleach? Lols.

My final thoughts:
Honestly, only watch One Piece if you're willing to do so with an open mind. The problems you gave weren't necessarily problems with the series itself but outside factors.

Well, technically I do have my criticisms of the series. The problem is, the moment I say anything negative about it, even minor and completely objective, which I always am, I am completely bashed or called a troll by the same aforementioned fans. I don't like tyo follow series by myself your see. I like to read or watch them with friends and acquaintances and chat about them. I don't only do this with manga and anime, but books, films and television series as well. If I can't do that with one piece, it kind of takes a lot of the enjoyment of it out, whether the series is amazing or not.

Like I've mentioned time and time again, all fandoms have their fair share of over zealous fans. Ultimately, however, you are the one that decides if you allow the fanboys/fangirls affect your overall enjoyment of the series. I hope you give One Piece a try and enjoy it as much as I have if you do.

Well, I'll try lols.

I don't get the point of this thread. And aren't you the guy who negged that guy with Kakuzu avy the other day with a disgusting message(as per that dude) and were posting in that thread with such hate towards the thread's OP calling him names?(what I saw) So I find it funny when you say you "can't stand people who regard things as perfect because there is no such thing in this world" as you lashed out at him for criticising Naruto series Lol Again your 9/10 thinking a series is flawless point makes me wonder whether you read something for enjoyment or whether you read it so that you can argue with the party that disagrees with you. Read it if you like it or don't bother with it really.

@Gorosei. Do you see what I mean now lols?

@Shóūri, no. I gave that person negative rep for blatantly bashing the series. That was all. There is a difference between criticizing something and bashing the whole thing out of anger when something doesn't go the way you want it. Furthermore, the same person was using a double account, which is also prohibited and made the thread to also get post counts as he was continually posting after every single reply and going off-topic.

The point of this thread is basically my distaste in the attitude of the majority of one piece fans and that if I can't relate or communicate with them, that leaves a bad impression of the series, since in my opinion, the attitudes of a medium's fans often reflect the series' concepts. Furthermore, I like to relate to and converse with media fans rather than just going "solo." I'm sorry if this is difficult for you to understand, but it's just the way I'm wired.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

So basically you dislike the One Piece fans and therefore don't know whether you should read it? How does that relate to the thread title?

The thread title I'll admit was not done well, but the topic was too..how should I say "complex" to fit into it. I don't know. For some reason I just couldn't make a clear and decent one, probably because my thoughts were still unorganized and undecided. I wasn't trying to instigate as others seemed to get the impression, though I will admit I am a bit biased against one piece due to its fans and promotions. Basically it was meant to be sarcastic. "One Piece must be boring if it's so "perfect" referring to the majority of one piece fans I've encountered who think it is or near perfect and better than any other series. However I felt that was too much of a generalization, so I kept the title simple and open basically to attract people to what I had to say in the overall.

One Piece isn't flawless. But it's a fantastic Manga. Much better than Naruto and Bleach which I thank the heavens for bringing to a close very soon.

This is basically the kind of attitude I'm talking about. Just about anyone who says One Piece is fantastic usually follows with much better than Bleach, Naruto, HxH, FMA blah blah blah. It's very superficial, though I'm glad you are objective enough to realize it has flaws like anything else.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Gentlemen what happen in this thread is the finest example of jealousy/Ignorance/Insecurity toward certain Anime which is disguised in a form of criticism, this is very pathetic, for someone to actually resort to such extent, its like the idea of someone saying One Piece is better than his favorite Anime Mentally disturbed his intelligence.

 

[Gintõki1]

Yes it's sooo dam boring and that's the reason why it makes many people addicted to it.

 

[Sherlock.]

All manga/anime have a certain number of people who say that the particular anime is flawless or the best. It just happens that in case of One Piece the number is very high. You really need not bother about their opinion TBH as long as you are enjoying the manga. Like I said you like something you read it, you don't then don't read it. I personally feel Sorachi Hideaki(Gintama) is a better story teller than Kishi and Kubo. I know 9/10 people will disagree with me but I don't care and I'll continue enjoying it as long as I can. You're the one at loss here. You aren't able to enjoy a series cause you don't like its fans. Ignore them really. You read something for yourself not for others. About your need to discuss you'll eventually find someone and if you don't, well you're enjoying the manga/anime right? Its all that matters. None of my buds like Gintama and I don't get to discuss it like other animes but I don't care. I just enjoy the series.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

This is basically the kind of attitude I'm talking about. Just about anyone who says One Piece is fantastic usually follows with much better than Bleach, Naruto, HxH, FMA blah blah blah. It's very superficial, though I'm glad you are objective enough to realize it has flaws like anything else.

Dude, I love HxH! You can't group me with those who think it's perfect. One Pieces greatest asset is the consistent, unpredictable, keep us on our toes: plot. However Bleach is just a cyclic mess. It was good up until Aizen died. And Naruto has just fallen to pieces ever since the start of the war. We've had 5 final villains now and it's getting dragged out and beyond ridiculous and NOW Zetsu is responsible for everything that ever happened? The f*ck is Kishi smoking? I'm sure you agree. Or at least see where I'm coming from.

Naruto and Bleach in my opinion are near the bottom of the pile, and now the only reason why I read them is to see how they end after I had followed them for so long

There are other Manga and Manhwa comparable to One Piece in my opinion such as Hunter x Hunter, Toriko, Shaman King, Tower of God and Dice: The Cube That Changes Everything.

 

[Olorin]

I honestly haven't ever seen anyone say that OP is completely perfect :/

 

[ministerC4]

I honestly haven't ever seen anyone say that OP is completely perfect :/

I have over 5 times XD