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Its not confirmed but its looking like he's going to defeat him. The smirk indicates he has something up his sleeve potentially, and Nami told him to kick his ass. He can't afford to lose here, because if he does Katakuri isn't letting him live, so he doesn't have a choice its either that or run away, which is lame and anticlimactic so scratch that out. The crew also ain't landing in Cacao island any time soon so that leaves a lot of time for a drawn out battle.

Put all this together and it may as well be confirmed.
Luffy hasn't put a scratch on Katakuri....Looks like Luffy is going to defeat him lol the logic
how is it looking like he he will defeat him??? plz tell me....Katakuri is toying with Luffy right now...he can afford to lose and run away also not lame because people have been asking for Kishi to show why and how the new world is said to be so dangerous and Luffy losing to a Yonko's FM shows just that also if he couldn't solo Cracker how can he beat Katakuri?!?! Also battle to be drawn out??? that works against Luffy since he lacks stamina especially if he uses his G4....
may as well be confirmed??? like how "beating" big mom eh?...
 

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Luffy hasn't put a scratch on Katakuri....Looks like Luffy is going to defeat him lol the logic
how is it looking like he he will defeat him??? plz tell me....Katakuri is toying with Luffy right now...he can afford to lose and run away also not lame because people have been asking for Kishi to show why and how the new world is said to be so dangerous and Luffy losing to a Yonko's FM shows just that also if he couldn't solo Cracker how can he beat Katakuri?!?! Also battle to be drawn out??? that works against Luffy since he lacks stamina especially if he uses his G4....
may as well be confirmed??? like how "beating" big mom eh?...
Luffy never put a scratch on Croc either, but still found a way to win, you think this is the worst condition Luffy has ever been in? Your logic makes no sense, he can't just run away and wtf do you mean the NW is dangerous? He already knows that and what earthly since does it make for Luffy to drag Kata into the MW and smash the mirror to the sunny if he's just going to run away?

Are you new to One piece? Because your saying the same shit that I've been hearing for weeks from the fandom. "Ohh he's beaten up no way he can win!!" oh no he's going to die!! Its all the same stupid shit.

If you've been reading One Piece since the beginning you'd know that Luffy is almost always losing the fight initially and then bouncing back. Your delusional if you think Luffy is done now he's been in far worse conditions.
 

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Luffy never put a scratch on Croc either, but still found a way to win, you think this is the worst condition Luffy has ever been in? Your logic makes no sense, he can't just run away and wtf do you mean the NW is dangerous? He already knows that and what earthly since does it make for Luffy to drag Kata into the MW and smash the mirror to the sunny if he's just going to run away?

Are you new to One piece? Because your saying the same shit that I've been hearing for weeks from the fandom. "Ohh he's beaten up no way he can win!!" oh no he's going to die!! Its all the same stupid shit.

If you've been reading One Piece since the beginning you'd know that Luffy is almost always losing the fight initially and then bouncing back. Your delusional if you think Luffy is done now he's been in far worse conditions.
The situation with Crocodile isn't comparable to this with Katakuri. Reason being that Crocodile never outclassed Luffy. His hang up with Crocodile was that he was unable to physically damage him. But he was never portrayed as being actually weaker. Meaning he wasn't portrayed as slower or less physically capable. In fact, during the second bout, Luffy was shown to be more than a match for Croc when the intangibility was removed from play.

With Katakuri, not only has Luffy been unable to physically hurt him, but he HAS been outclassed by him as well. This isn't Luffy having a particular hang-up he can't get past, this is Luffy fairing up against someone who is just plain superior to him AND he can't hurt him. The last time a situation like this happened was with the likes of Pacifista and Admirals pre-skip. So going by portrayal from previous events, this situation is actually similar to situations where Luffy only made it out alive because of help and escaping, not any bouts he actually won.
 

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Luffy never put a scratch on Croc either, but still found a way to win, you think this is the worst condition Luffy has ever been in? Your logic makes no sense, he can't just run away and wtf do you mean the NW is dangerous? He already knows that and what earthly since does it make for Luffy to drag Kata into the MW and smash the mirror to the sunny if he's just going to run away?

Are you new to One piece? Because your saying the same shit that I've been hearing for weeks from the fandom. "Ohh he's beaten up no way he can win!!" oh no he's going to die!! Its all the same stupid shit.

If you've been reading One Piece since the beginning you'd know that Luffy is almost always losing the fight initially and then bouncing back. Your delusional if you think Luffy is done now he's been in far worse conditions.
You mean the same Croc that handed Luffy the L,(the first time Luffy fought him)???? You just shot your own point. I never said this the worst condition he has been in, never said anything close to that so where did you get that from?
He can run and he will.

why would he smash the mirrors if he was gonna run??? Well he isn't going on the boat....he will go to Sanji and wait for nami and them. the spoilers quote:
"L: Hurry up and come! You guys will arrive soon and get tired of waiting!
everyone: Yeeaah!
Luffy: See ya later!"
 

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Remember when it was confirmed Ace would beat Blackbeard cause he smirked, and then he did? Remember when Rob Lucci smirked against Luffy, and then proceeded to arrest him? Remember when Rayleigh smirked against Kizaru, and a few moments later was breathing hard and getting tired while the non-swordsman was looking fine? Good times.

Yeah but they are not Luffy lol
 

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The situation with Crocodile isn't comparable to this with Katakuri. Reason being that Crocodile never outclassed Luffy. His hang up with Crocodile was that he was unable to physically damage him. But he was never portrayed as being actually weaker. Meaning he wasn't portrayed as slower or less physically capable. In fact, during the second bout, Luffy was shown to be more than a match for Croc when the intangibility was removed from play.

With Katakuri, not only has Luffy been unable to physically hurt him, but he HAS been outclassed by him as well. This isn't Luffy having a particular hang-up he can't get past, this is Luffy fairing up against someone who is just plain superior to him AND he can't hurt him. The last time a situation like this happened was with the likes of Pacifista and Admirals pre-skip. So going by portrayal from previous events, this situation is actually similar to situations where Luffy only made it out alive because of help and escaping, not any bouts he actually won.
He hasn’t even used G4 yet so how can we say hes heavily outclassed? And how in the hell is he going to escape if Katakuri is so superior? With the way your talking, Luffy should not even manage to get away, he should die in the MW. What other choice does Luffy have right now? The crew ain’t arriving on Cacao island until 10 hours from now. You think he’s going to last 10 more hours when he’s already beaten up? The only way I see this going is he shows us something new that allows him to hold his own. He isn’t going to be heavily outclassed for long obviously, or how else is he going to get out of there?
 

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You mean the same Croc that handed Luffy the L,(the first time Luffy fought him)???? You just shot your own point. I never said this the worst condition he has been in, never said anything close to that so where did you get that from?
He can run and he will.

why would he smash the mirrors if he was gonna run??? Well he isn't going on the boat....he will go to Sanji and wait for nami and them. the spoilers quote:
"L: Hurry up and come! You guys will arrive soon and get tired of waiting!
everyone: Yeeaah!
Luffy: See ya later!"
Except if Luffy loses right here and now there won’t be another time, he just dies. He doesn’t even know which mirror he needs to go through to get back to his crew so no he can’t just simply run away and his crew can’t show him which one because they won’t be arriving in Cacao island until 10 hours from now. You think he’s going to actually manage to run away for ten hours?
 

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Except if Luffy loses right here and now there won’t be another time, he just dies. He doesn’t even know which mirror he needs to go through to get back to his crew so no he can’t just simply run away and his crew can’t show him which one because they won’t be arriving in Cacao island until 10 hours from now. You think he’s going to actually manage to run away for ten hours?
@b Or he will run away....
The rest: Ya what was I thinking when I said Luffy can use mirrors to escape to Cacao....that would never happen heck Luffy or Nami would never even give it a thought because it is so outlandish :rolleyes:
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@b Or he will run away....
The rest: Ya what was I thinking when I said Luffy can use mirrors to escape to Cacao....that would never happen heck Luffy or Nami would never even give it a thought because it is so outlandish :rolleyes:
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You realize your own example says "After you beat that guy" though right? It didn't say Luffy run away and hide until we reach Cacao so you can use a mirror. It said beat him and we'll be waiting at Cacao for you. I hope you don't think that page helped your case.
 

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@b Or he will run away....
The rest: Ya what was I thinking when I said Luffy can use mirrors to escape to Cacao....that would never happen heck Luffy or Nami would never even give it a thought because it is so outlandish :rolleyes:
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How does this change anything I said? He doesn’t even know where the mirror to Cacao town is, he isn’t going to have it easy looking for it with Kata on his back either.

It’s also ironic that you show me this pic and Nami even says beat that guys ass and then find a mirror to Cacao implying that he needs to whoops his ass first and also implying he needs to find the mirror. Which lines up with what I have been saying perfectly.
 

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He hasn’t even used G4 yet so how can we say hes heavily outclassed? And how in the hell is he going to escape if Katakuri is so superior? With the way your talking, Luffy should not even manage to get away, he should die in the MW. What other choice does Luffy have right now? The crew ain’t arriving on Cacao island until 10 hours from now. You think he’s going to last 10 more hours when he’s already beaten up? The only way I see this going is he shows us something new that allows him to hold his own. He isn’t going to be heavily outclassed for long obviously, or how else is he going to get out of there?
Yup, Gear Fourth didn't work on Cracker with Nami helping him by weakening his abilities, but it's gonna work 1 on 1 with someone even stronger than Cracker. Sounds about right.
 

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Yup, Gear Fourth didn't work on Cracker with Nami helping him by weakening his abilities, but it's gonna work 1 on 1 with someone even stronger than Cracker. Sounds about right.
If Luffy has multiple modes of Gear 4th, and we've only seen 2 so far, what if he has one that will be beneficial for him against Katakuri?
 

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Yup, Gear Fourth didn't work on Cracker with Nami helping him by weakening his abilities, but it's gonna work 1 on 1 with someone even stronger than Cracker. Sounds about right.
You said he was heavily outclassed because he’s getting whooped in G2/G3, all I’m saying is he hasn’t gone all out yet. Cracker had the ability to stall G4, Katakuri may not be able to do that. He might have to fight the form straight up, regardless I don’t think G4 is enough here but he could always show us something new.
 

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You said he was heavily outclassed because he’s getting whooped in G2/G3, all I’m saying is he hasn’t gone all out yet. Cracker had the ability to stall G4, Katakuri may not be able to do that. He might have to fight the form straight up, regardless I don’t think G4 is enough here but he could always show us something new.
Except we've seen that Cracker does indeed have the ability to stall out Gear Fourth, since even Luffy's Haki embedded punches have been unable to cause damage to Cracker.

G4 did work on Cracker though it was what dealt the KO shot. Bounceman may not have been effective but G4 beat Cracker.
This is some terrible LBeezy nonsense logic. For one thing, Luffy himself never directly injured Cracker. Cracker only got hurt because he was slammed into his own biscuits, and it was impacting those that damaged him. Secondly, Luffy only survived to the point that he used Tankman because he had Nami's help with softening the biscuits enough for him to eat them. Without Nami, G4 would have failed him and he would have died. Thirdly, the Tankman only got that big because of eating the biscuits, so without Nami, Luffy wouldn't have even been big enough to resist Cracker's sword and push him away.

So no, it wasn't G4 that beat Cracker, it was Nami helping Luffy.
 

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You realize your own example says "After you beat that guy" though right? It didn't say Luffy run away and hide until we reach Cacao so you can use a mirror. It said beat him and we'll be waiting at Cacao for you. I hope you don't think that page helped your case.
You also do realize that Nami has no idea what condition Luffy is in right?? She hasn’t seen That Luffy has yet to put a scratch on Katakuri...
 

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You also do realize that Nami has no idea what condition Luffy is in right?? She hasn’t seen That Luffy has yet to put a scratch on Katakuri...
Luffy fooled them just as much as he fooled Nami lmao Like yes, let's take Nami's optimism at face value despite the fact that it's the product of Luffy lying about what's going on, especially since Oda included a shot of Jinbei reacting as though he knows better to illustrate that Nami's optimism is based on a lie.
 
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