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The women in the crew haven't done shit yet, I'm still waiting for Smoothie feats and even Pudding has been invisible. Ever since Pudding got slapped she's felt like an after thought.
[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 868 Discussion and 869 Predictions
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The women in the crew haven't done shit yet, I'm still waiting for Smoothie feats and even Pudding has been invisible. Ever since Pudding got slapped she's felt like an after thought.
But nothing has happened yet ?
They jumped out of the cake and broke the picture frame which in One Piece time is probably a minute or something. The rest of the chapters were filled with flashback.
The Vinsmokes also have done nothing, as well as 10 other members of the Charlotte family and also as Chopper and Nami.
There is only so much you can show on 16 pages and I rather wait for a good introduction and explanation of powers like he did with Dogtooth than Oda dividing their time by three and show more characters.
You're just impatient, can't have it all.
When did that thing happen? I remember Vinesmoke Jaji saying ''if only we had our raid suits, we wouldn't have to let you do whatever you want with us" and peros saying "why would you bring that to your son's wedding?", I took it as Peros implying that they expected Vinesmokes to not bring weapons to a wedding and were using it against them, kinda like "we knew it" kinda thing.
So what did they had raid suits, and had to just put it on?
I don't think the whole Jaji and Peros conversation would've happened in that case.
Jaji would be more like "If only I can put on this raid suit I have with me" in that case.
I think.
What do you mean with still waiting ? The fight is only 4 chapters old. 2 of that were flashback and Luffy is already running for his life, while Big Mom only opened her mouth.
If Big Mom shows her biggest attack right now One Piece would end next week.
Yonkou will be yonkou.
Nami and Chopper gave them back with earplugs after Sanji broke the goo on their hands when Big Mom screamed the first time.
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What Love said, there's a panel where Nami and Chopper give them to them. In the panel we see her give Ichiji his and has a cylinder marked 2, it only stands to reason they brought all of them.
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On a side note I can't believe Bege wouldn't use haki in his bullets here he knew Katakuri was a logia
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Could he not have it?
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IDK defeating giants at the age of 6 with no difficulty, breaking there sword like it is paper or Caramel saying she might have enough strength to become a fleet admiral....OR the fact that even with the move you showed above Luffy couldn't/didn't solo defeat one her commander and now is running away from her but sure Luffy is "stronger" than Big Mom
FYI that attack luffy is using to split that city in half is a King Kong Gun. Which he never used against cracker, and on top of that cracker never took one of luffy's attacks head on and the moment luffy made physical contact with him the fight was over. I agree with your first points but the points about luffy are completely false and carry no weight especially when it comes to luffy vs big mom.
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So him not able being able to defeat Big Mom's commander by himself has no weight on if he is stronger than Big Mom eh?? Sure...
Also with Cracker not taking an attack head on.... That speaks more to how strong his defense was also goes to further prove that without Nami Luffy wouldn't have come close to making contact with the real cracker let alone win...also you said my point about Luffy are false how so??
I was wrong about the move
But Luffy couldn't solo a commander: Fact
Luffy is currently running for his life: Fact
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Luffy is weaker than Cracker, the fanboy glasses won't change that. It's asinine to assume that Luffy allowed himself to struggle against Cracker for an entire night when he was in a hurry to find Sanji as opposed to going all out.
Luffy can't beat Cracker, he definitely ain't beating Big Mom on his own.
I Laughed so hard while reading this chapter xD
So much planning and it all goes to shit xD Luffy's way is Highway XD Plan on the Go don't plan before you go xD
Best chapter so far....
Unless there is a plot twist they are all dead as hell xD
Not underestimating luffy or anything but that's true.....
So much planning and it all goes to shit xD Luffy's way is Highway XD Plan on the Go don't plan before you go xD
Best chapter so far....
Unless there is a plot twist they are all dead as hell xD
Not underestimating luffy or anything but that's true.....
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Lufy couldn't beat Doffy on his own yet he still ended up defeating him at the end of his arc. And what's it really matter if his victory comes with help isn't that what you've been saying you wanted, the mc to not be able to do these grand feats on his own? Y'all act like Luffy didn't have massive help in beating Moriah and other characters. Crackers defense>Luffy but he still ended up losing BM being > Luffy isn't any guarantee she'll win when there's out lying factors.
No fanboying here my friend luffy is stronger then cracker cracker never took a single hit from luffy but getting knocked through his own soldiers knocked him out. Luffy was able to break his soldier in half which means luffy's attack power is great then his defense.
Yet again you're off because Nami never attacked cracker let alone dealed him damage. Nami didn't even have anything to do with cracker finally deciding to attack luffy head on and subsequently losing the match. This fight is simple it was a battle of stamina with or without Nami if and when cracker attacked luffy one shot would have ended the fight you can't argue that because one attack from luffy ended the fight.
That could be because the Bege subordinates are firing from castle, unless Bege has two guns in his hand as well, but in that case I think he would've used haki. However, Katukari not bothering to dodge and not getting hurt either, it would be reasonable to assume it's just subordinates.
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you're kidding right??? you can't be this dumb...you don't have to "attack" someone to deal them "damage"..sigh not gonna explain that any further....I guess I will find the manga page and hope it helps....says it was a battle of stamina and ignores the fact that the only reason Luffy made it that far was because of Nami also if beating Cracker was so easy why did luffy keep running away for 11 hours....you say you aren't a fanboy but boy do you seem like one....
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Her being stronger isn't the only reason why I think she won't be defeated....Oda just established a rivalry between Big Mom and the giants so what's the point of taking her out now??? Especially when it would mean he would have to down 2 commanders aswell who have been also hyped up....I think katakuri and big mom will make it to elbaf.....we might see smoothie fall
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Lmao you say you don't have to attack someone to deal them damage and then you call me dumb smh good luck with that. Not a fanboy yet again just seeing things for what they are luffy could've defeated cracker the moment he broke his first biscuit soldier. When cracker recklessly pushed forward passed his advancing soldiers and tried to attack luffy if luffy connected at that point the fight was over. Because all it took was one hit to end the fight. But how would you feel about the sweet commanders at that point they would be deemed weak, and the reader would lose all interest in the big mom pirates. The reason that fight took so long was to build the readers interest, and the fact that it was a battle of stamina who would out last who even luffy said that. Think it through law and luffy two strong fighters in their own rights defeated doflamingo and did that fight take 11 hours no because that was a battle of strength not stamina.
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I encourage you to actually read my posts before you come blathering to me.
The situations on Dressrosa and Thriller Bark aren't comparable to WCI either.
Luffy was only able to beat Cracker because Nami wet Cracker's biscuits, allowing Luffy to eat them and use them for energy. If Nami hadn't doused the biscuits, Luffy would have ran out of fuel against Cracker long ago, and would have been killed during those 11 hours.
You can't even say that Cracker is lacks durable too much so he gets knocked out in one hit, since Luffy had to send Cracker through his own biscuits to knock him out. That's indication that it's not even Luffy's attack that knocked out Cracker, but it was the hardness of his OWN power that sealed the deal, which again shows the lack of power from Luffy's end against Cracker. These are all facts.
Then why didn't he again? Ah, that's right, because Cracker's speed and power was too overwhelming for Luffy to do so.
Oda making Cracker stronger than Luffy to build interest and tension doesn't change that Cracker was stronger than Luffy lmao
And Luffy's stamina only kept up with Cracker because he ate Cracker's biscuits and used it for fuel.
Terrible example, since both of them are still weaker than Doflamingo.
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Lmao yea you can't be serious your saying that luffy had to smash cracker through his own soldiers to win, but luffy's Kong Gun was strong enough to break his soldier in half which means Luffy's attack power in gear 4 is stronger then crackers defense. Since cracker can make an unlimited amount of soldiers as quick as needed he made it a battle of stamina since gear 4 was so powerful. You say my example of law and luffy is a bad example since they are both weaker then doflamingo lmao is the combination of law and luffy weaker then the combination of Nami and luffy. Yet that fight didn't last 11 hours. If luffy would have one shotted cracker the mystic and power scaling for the commanders of yonkos would've plummeted drastically and the reader loses interest that's common knowledge.
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