[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 848 Discussion and 849 Predictions

[loj]

Except on BM's island, Sanji can strike a deal to appease Big Mom to get her to leave them alone and forcibly escort them out of the country. On Zou, not only is the country in danger again and not ready to do battle again, but the Strawhats would get pummeled.


Luffy, Law, and tons of Colosseum fighters BARELY brought down the Donquixote family. Do you think they'd fair much better against an Emperor?


Wouldn't change anything. Even if the SHs knew, the choice would still be:

1. Give Big Mom Sanji?

2. Reject Big Mom and incur enough wrath to be actively pursued?

Only one of these results in the death of the crew unless Oda is secretly about to up them in the power scaling.

If you are telling me Sanji will strike a deal with BM to leave Luffy alone then I'll end it here LMFAO...Sanji ain't doing shit hence even if he does,Luffy will negate it with doing shit to BM...it's like Sanji learned nothing from Robin situation...no deal is keeping Luffy away from bringing Sanji back...

Bruh they would of definitely done better than now,how's Luffy alone better than Luffy,Law and minks XD

With all SH's,Law and Pedro possibly on BM island with Jinbei(he will definitely do something) the situation is different.

 

[Punk Hazard]

If you are telling me Sanji will strike a deal with BM to leave Luffy alone then I'll end it here LMFAO

That's exactly what happened, like, two chapters ago...

Sanji ain't doing shit hence

Because he CAN'T.

Sanji attempting to do anything=death of SHs and death of Zeff

even if he does,Luffy will negate it with doing shit to BM...it's like Sanji learned nothing from Robin situation...no deal is keeping Luffy away from bringing Sanji back...

Except they could handle the Robin situation. They can't handle two Emperors and Germa. Zoro and Robin both said they shouldn't beef with two Emperors at the same time.

Zoro demanded that Luffy abandon his Nakama. Are you also saying that Zoro has learned nothing from Enies Lobby, doesn't know Luffy's character, has no faith in Luffy, and is also losing credibility as a character like you're saying Sanji is?

Bruh they would of definitely done better than now,how's Luffy alone better than Luffy,Law and minks XD

The Minks, as a whole, aren't in any position to fight back, especially not on Zou. You also can't say that Minks are stronger than the help they got from the Colosseum, you have no way of knowing that either way. Not to mention that Big Mom's crew is bigger than the Donquixote Family and stronger.

 

[loj]

That's exactly what happened, like, two chapters ago...



Because he CAN'T.

Sanji attempting to do anything=death of SHs and death of Zeff


Except they could handle the Robin situation. They can't handle two Emperors and Germa. Zoro and Robin both said they shouldn't beef with two Emperors at the same time.

Zoro demanded that Luffy abandon his Nakama. Are you also saying that Zoro has learned nothing from Enies Lobby, doesn't know Luffy's character, and is also losing credibility as a character like you're saying Sanji is?


The Minks, as a whole, aren't in any position to fight back, especially not on Zou. You also can't say that Minks are stronger than the help they got from the Colosseum, you have no way of knowing that either way. Not to mention that Big Mom's crew is bigger than the Donquixote Family and stronger.

Except it didn't happen ^^

Why are u bringing 2 emperors in this when Kaido isn't even in question now why would Kaido go to BM just for SH's...you are nuts...Also why would SH handle Germa 66,when same Germa wants to fuk up BM that goes in SH hand rather than against them >_>

Also Zoro is a God he would't allos this shit to happen,how much I want Zoro here on BM island geez

It doesn't matter I'm just saying the sitaution is different since they have more numbers and Nekomamushu and Inuarashi which are great tier hence Zounisha as well.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Except it didn't happen ^^

You're speculating that Big Mom is going back on her word to have the Strawhats escorted safely out of her country. Nothing indicates that at all. In fact, the fact that Big Mom honored her agreement with Luffy to not destroy Fishman Island over not having her sweets shows that she's more likely to keep her word.

Why are u bringing 2 emperors in this when Kaido isn't even in question now why would Kaido go to BM just for SH's...you are nuts...Also why would SH handle Germa 66,when same Germa wants to fuk up BM that goes in SH hand rather than against them >_>

1. Kaido IS in the question. He's actively pursuing Law and Luffy.

2. Never did I say Kaido would go to Big Mom. I said he'd be looking for Luffy and the crew. They can't handle running from both Big Mom and Kaido at the same time. The Germa Army just makes it that much worse.

3. Judge wants this union between him and Big Mom to take back the North Blue. If the Strawhats **** this up for him, you think he wouldn't want revenge?

Also Zoro is a God he would't allos this shit to happen,how much I want Zoro here on BM island geez

LMFAOOOOOO SEE? This the Zoro fanboyism bullshit people be talking about.

When Sanji expects Luffy to abandon Sanji and he goes off with Big Mom because the crew can't handle two Emperors and the Germa army, he's no longer worthy of respect, is a shit character, and should know Luffy wouldn't abandon a nakama.

When Zoro expects Luffy to abandon Sanji because the crew can't handle two Emperors, he's " a god, omg I wish I could see Daddy Zoro at Whole Cake."

Yeah, we're done here kiddo.

 

[RJ22BIG]

This fanboy bias stuff is BS it's pure hypocrites saying and doing anything to bad mouth disrespect and down play sanji it's the most pathetic thing ever. If zoro was in the same exact situation he would be called a boss for leaving on his own to go deal with big mom he would over hyped up for wanting to sacrifice him self and his dream for the crew or to protect his mentor but sanji is an idiot for doing so man zoro fans really blow shit out of proportion and it's only zoro fans who disrespect sanji I never here sanji fans disrespect zoro I've never seen any character get so much disrespect besides sanji and he is a protagonist why is that though I really want to know though why do zoro fans hate on this one character so much ????

 

[Skull Knight]

He doesn't. They can't fight back, so he has to do SOMETHING to ensure they're safety. This was the only way he could do that.

That wasn't the only way

Which would be a poor decision, since he'd have no way of protecting Zeff if he did. If Sanji escaped, he'd be condemning Zeff to a life of doing nothing but constantly running. He chose to sacrifice his adventure to keep the lives of his loved ones intact.

Zeff was a former pirate. he must have fought and run from guys like Marines, Bounty hunters who were ready to kill him.He could have hide for some time till the matter was dissolved and seeing how BM didn't send assassins behind Kidd, I m sure she will not waste her resources on Sanji or Zeff(if one of Sanji's brother marries pudding).And I dont think Judge has the guts to face a Yonko. He would have find other possible ways(that includes giving one of his fav son to BM) to solve the issue if Sanji never showed up.

To ensure they don't ruin the wedding. Once the wedding is done, that's when she's gonna have them forcibly escorted out of the country.

and how is he sure that BM is going to keep that promise???
Her crew attacked SH ship sayin the truce is over now and BM can destroy Fishmen Island now.
Howcome someone trust her words and then act all lovey dovey without enquiring about what happened to Luffy and Co.???

And? As far as he's aware, nothing is immediately threatening them. He doesn't have the knowledge that would be required for him to logically ask for an update

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This makes no sense. Dressrosa arc a random girl turned out to be a member of Doffy's crew who captured Sanji. Now the same guy is thinking Luffy is still sitting in that place and Yonko's crew is ignoring them:elmo:

This doesn't disprove that BM could have found Zou. Jack found Zou without Pekoms, so why can't Big Mom?

Jack could have other means like
this mink might be helping Jack locating Zou

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or there is definately a traitor in minks.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

What would change if everyone knew everything anyway? This isn't about simply about surpassing the opponents offensive force, nor does luffy have any plans aside from that ridiculously OP plot Convenience

 

[Dannie]

Also Zoro is a God

Okay man, let's not get over our heads here. Even if Zoro was there, it wouldn't change anything.

 

[loj]

Okay man, let's not get over our heads here. Even if Zoro was there, it wouldn't change anything.

Guess no one got the joke *shrugs*

 

[loj]

You're speculating that Big Mom is going back on her word to have the Strawhats escorted safely out of her country. Nothing indicates that at all. In fact, the fact that Big Mom honored her agreement with Luffy to not destroy Fishman Island over not having her sweets shows that she's more likely to keep her word.



1. Kaido IS in the question. He's actively pursuing Law and Luffy.

2. Never did I say Kaido would go to Big Mom. I said he'd be looking for Luffy and the crew. They can't handle running from both Big Mom and Kaido at the same time. The Germa Army just makes it that much worse.

3. Judge wants this union between him and Big Mom to take back the North Blue. If the Strawhats **** this up for him, you think he wouldn't want revenge?



LMFAOOOOOO SEE? This the Zoro fanboyism bullshit people be talking about.

When Sanji expects Luffy to abandon Sanji and he goes off with Big Mom because the crew can't handle two Emperors and the Germa army, he's no longer worthy of respect, is a shit character, and should know Luffy wouldn't abandon a nakama.

When Zoro expects Luffy to abandon Sanji because the crew can't handle two Emperors, he's " a god, omg I wish I could see Daddy Zoro at Whole Cake."

Yeah, we're done here kiddo.

As much as I want to believe you,I think that Fishmen Island fight with BM will happen eventualy....

As of other...Sanji is a big idiot if he thought going to BM would make things better.

LMFAO you baited so hard on Zoro XDDDDDDDDD

 

[Itachi Minato]

Wow well that shows a lot about your character so not choosing between your friends or your father dying makes you stupid with all do respect man that's has to be the dumbest most selfish thing I've possibly ever heard you would literally choose either choose between your father and your closest friends man that's really dark I would glad give myself up for a chance that they would all remain safe if that's what you call an idiot then there is no point arguing with you because I to am clearly an idiot. Sanji knows who luffy is and luffy knows who sanji is neither would ever sit back and let the other someone else get hurt for them just like luffy sanji would do anything for the crew even when robin told sanji she was leaving he wouldn't let her go he went and waited for the sea train. Even when zoro told sanji to wait for the others because cp9 was to strong for him alone luffy told zoro would you wait if I told you robin was sacrificing herself for them. It's obvious you don't understand these characters they are all stubborn when it comes to the M3 they would never let someone get hurt for them. Luffy knows that about sanji and sanji knows that about luffy. If the roles were reversed sanji wouldn't leave luffy no matter what he did maybe you should gets some clarity on who these characters are and what they stand for.

Oh God above. Your so busy defending Sanji you don't even understand the point I'm making. Sanji is stupid because he hasn't realised that he has made a decision which will indirectly get his captain and possibly crew killed. Unfortunately for him his captain is very stubborn and will die before he lets Sanji leave.
@ bold that is exactly my point for ****s sake. If you still don't see it then I give up.

 

[Bogard]

Lmao this threads keeps getting funnier and funnier. Just wait for when i grab the popcorns lol

 

[Kingu]

Sanji is Robin 2.0

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oh God above. Your so busy defending Sanji you don't even understand the point I'm making. Sanji is stupid because he hasn't realised that he has made a decision which will indirectly get his captain and possibly crew killed. Unfortunately for him his captain is very stubborn and will die before he lets Sanji leave.
@ bold that is exactly my point for ****s sake. If you still don't see it then I give up.

You do realize that Sanji refusing the invitation INCREASES the chances of Big Mom attempting to kill his crew?

Lmao this threads keeps getting funnier and funnier. Just wait for when i grab the popcorns lol

^^^ when you want to look like you have something worthwhile to say but you don't.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Oh God above. Your so busy defending Sanji you don't even understand the point I'm making. Sanji is stupid because he hasn't realised that he has made a decision which will indirectly get his captain and possibly crew killed. Unfortunately for him his captain is very stubborn and will die before he lets Sanji leave.
@ bold that is exactly my point for ****s sake. If you still don't see it then I give up.

No my friend I have addressed you points you just keep repeating you points as if I have ignored them you just said sanji has made a decision that will get his crew killed sanji has negotiated with big mom to set luffy and co go free from whole cake island as long as the wedding goes smoothly so at that point the crew is safe. What you fell to recognize is that luffy is aiming to be pirate king so he will clash with big mom sooner or later regardless of sanji or not sanji hasn't put anybody in a position to be killed that's why he left and that's why he agreed to the marriage so nobody would be in danger do to him. Your blaming sanji not for his actions but luffy's actions because luffy is stubborn sanji should changed his character and bend to luffys will that would be stupid those power houses on the straw hat crew share some key characteristics they are stubborn they will die to protect their crew mates and they would never let's some get hurt in anyway shape or form for themselves. You can't blame sanji for being sanji or luffy for being luffy as if this isn't their characters that oda has created.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Yes I agree which is why I didn't criticise him for that. I am criticising him because he's failing to see that Luffy is going to get himself killed and he's acting all happy doing nothing and deluding himself

 

[Love Cook]

Yes I agree which is why I didn't criticise him for that. I am criticising him because he's failing to see that Luffy is going to get himself killed and he's acting all happy doing nothing and deluding himself

There is nothing to be done

 

[RJ22BIG]

Yes I agree which is why I didn't criticise him for that. I am criticising him because he's failing to see that Luffy is going to get himself killed and he's acting all happy doing nothing and deluding himself

Lol luffy is always in a situation to get killed not even oda can change that it's luffy sanji knows that no one can change that like you said luffy is stubborn but in regards to him acting happy and doing nothing there is nothing else he can do now there's nothing else to do but wait get married so his friends and zeff can remain safe all he's doing is trying to make the best of the worst situation of his life so far. We all are guilty of that we've all been in a situation where we are suffering and but on a brave face to protect the ones around us i.e. Sanji putting on an act to keep pudding happy because she is the only good thing in his current situation. Lol but it doesn't matter we all know the wedding is gonna be a disaster pudding might leave or kill herself bombs gonna explode and it's gonna be an all out war pure combat that's what I'm waiting for so in the end the last couple chapters didn't even really matter

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes I agree which is why I didn't criticise him for that. I am criticising him because he's failing to see that Luffy is going to get himself killed and he's acting all happy doing nothing and deluding himself

Not only can he do nothing about that, he doesn't even know that Luffy is danger. As far as his knowledge goes, Luffy is still sitting out there.

Not only that, he's not even acting happy for his own sake, but for Pudding's, which just ties back to his deal with BM being Pudding's happiness for SHs safety.

 

[Bogard]

You do realize that Sanji refusing the invitation INCREASES the chances of Big Mom attempting to kill his crew?


^^^ when you want to look like you have something worthwhile to say but you don't.

I never said i did. I'd rather stay in the corner and laugh at the funny posts i'm reading right now. That said even if i did want to say something, i'd rather not in order to avoid the countless excuses that would be floating left and right. I've seen that much already