[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 848 Discussion and 849 Predictions

[RJ22BIG]

I already said all the Yonko are mad because of Luffy's actions.
They will kill him the moment he is in their radar.
Sanji only diverted BM's attention.
She will definately kill Luffy once the party is over otherwise she would have escorted Luffy and Nami out of Cake island.
And BM can still make connection wit Germa 66 even if Sanji rejected Capone's offer. Pudding can marry any one of the Sanji's brother. I dont think she will waste her resource on finding a guy who is actively revolting against her crew.



@BOLD
See U yourself is not sure if Sanji's decision will work or not. This is what I m sayin, he has made some terrible decisions.
he is not even thinking about how to get out of this mess. He didnot enquired what happened to Luffy and Nami(from Pudding), whether they are safe or not??? What happened to the crew because he didnot saw anyone except Nami and Luffy or where are they???
He knew nothing about Zou's strength(Minks+Zunisha) and left them because Zeff was in danger. He didnot even thought that Luffy is going to come after him(even though Luffy went after Nami and Robin)???
He definately have some trust issues:elmo:

What in the world are you talking about sanji had thought of every possible thing in the present time there is no way out of this for him by going with the marriage he has ensured that the straw hats remain safe and that zeff remains a live sanji knows will on his journey he can't protect zeff in east blue. He also got big mom to let luffy and the rest of the crew go free after the wedding so actually he is saving everyone he does know luffy and Nami are safe via big mom. Sanji even said when the big mom pirates showed up the mink tribe have been badly injured through a war and he doesn't want to put them through anything else even law said what do you think would happen if they were attacked again so what your saying about Zou or zunisha is bogus sanji left to protect not only the mink tribe for another attack while sparing his crew and protecting zeff. And there was no way of luffy going after him because pekoms was supposed to be dead which would've made sanji's move full proof even all the straw hats said we don't even know where he is after luffy said let's just go ask sanji until chopper and brook alerted them to the fact that pekoms was still alive. Your saying sanji has trust issues my goodness so if I don't believe the straw hats can handle 2 yonkos at the same time with their enormous crews and an evil mythical army. Even zoro said they couldn't deal with all that so I guess he has trust issues I guess when luffy told the crew to run when being attacked by kizaru and kuma luffy had trust issue yea trying to protect your crew means you don't trust them no that means your aware of the situation you can't win in those situations. The way things are playing out now the straw hats will come out on top even luffy said it to big mom. But if they were up against 2 yonkos and germa they would eventually be found easily and inevitably lose.

 

[Itachi Minato]

You're focusing on the wrong thing. In Sanji decided to tell Capone to **** off and stay on Zou, he'd have attracted the attention of Big Mom to the island. Even Law noted that they needed to consider what it would mean to attract more enemies to Zou while it was still in recovery:

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So Sanji had to choose between two scenarios:

1. Staying behind on Zou, denying the invitation, and attracting the attention of Big Mom and the Germa 66 towards the Strawhats and the weakened and recovering country of Zou; pitting the forces of two Yonko and the Germa army against the Strawhats, which WILL result in their deaths with what we've seen in the story so far

2. Going with Capone towards an island that the Strawhats will have a difficult time finding(it was unlikely that they actually made it to Whole Cake), sparing Zou from further attention(to the best of his knowledge, he had no way of knowing Jack was going to come back to try and kill Zunisha), and diverting Big Mom's attention away from the Strawhats.

And you think the first one was the better option?

I do not blame Sanji for making the decision he made. But hes supposed to be one of the smartest members of this crew. He has not diverted BM attention from the SH because Luffy is not the kind of guy who will just let him leave. Luffy will draw attention to himself that's the kind of guy he is and you know that. From the decision that Sanjj has made right now the result will be that Luffy gets himself killed because he wont leave Sanji and that's the end of the SH. If I was Sanji right now I wouldn't be all that happy because he has not saved the SH. Please tell me how what Sanji has done saves the SH knowing what Sanji knows about Luffy?
Especially after this page where Luffy says he wont move till Sanji comes back. Does Sanji actually think theres any chance they are leaving.

Luffy will not leave sanji behind but I don't understand how that makes sanji stupid if luffy is stubborn he knows that luffy is stubborn and that is why when he left Zou he was smiling to paint the picture that everything would be alright and even left a note saying he would be back. That's really stupid to believe that sanji trying to protect luffy from himself and protect the crew from total annihilation makes sanji wrong. So I guess zoro was stupid and wrong for pointing out that luffy should leave sanji alone because that would put the crew against 2 yonkos at the same time when they are eventually gonna be hunted dow by kaido for defeating doflamingo. Man I guess trying to talk sense into someone that is stubborn makes the person that is passing the wisdom wrong wow now is crazy.

Where did I say Sanji was wrong? I said he was stupid if he thinks that hes going to be able to leave the SH that easily. I love how you keep bringing up Zoro as if that has any relevance. The Sanji Zoro rivalry between the characters and fanbase means **** all to me and I don't give a **** about what Zoro would do. And Zoro saying what he did fits exactly in to his character. Sanji right now is showing that he does not know Luffy. Hes in a tough spot but him acting all lovey dovey is him just being stupid because the way things are right now Luffy is about to die. The only reason I am annoyed is because I like Sanji and hes acting like an idiot. If I was in Sanjis situation and I knew what I knew about Luffy then I would think theres no way I'm getting out of this without somebody dying. I would have to make a choice. Zeff or the SH.

 

[Skull Knight]

"Only."

That "only" diverting Big Mom's attention is a pretty big deal, given Big Mom's ferociousness, temper, and the severity of her grudges.

If you can't understand the difference between Big Mom being mad at Luffy, but leaving him alone, and Big Mom pursuing Luffy out of anger, then I can't help you.

Comeon now.I already told u BM could make an alliance wit Germa 66 even without Sanji. Pudding would have married any of the borthers Sanji have. BM is not going to send armies behind him.

Big Mom has pursued Caesar when she just SPECULATED that he was double crossing her, and wishes her own daughter to be dead for ruining a huge deal for her. You think she wouldn't pursue a bunch of stranger upstarts who's double crossed and ruined a huge deal for her? She was gonna destroy Fishman Island for failing to act on their deal, and you think she wouldn't bother trying to kill the Strawhats?

Kidd also destroyed her two ships which caused her huge loss. I dont see homies attacking Kidd :bdpf:

That doesn't matter because the alternative creates a worse situation. Choosing shit over shittier is still a good decision.


He's not doing this anymore. He has no way out of this mess to the best of his knowledge, so why would he?

But this is the situation he himself created and he had tonnes of ways like start planning how to leave Cake Island(lets say after the marriage) or ask pudding to find keys for the handcuffs and call Zeff about the situation.

Is Sanji aware that the army is going after them? For all he knows, they're still just sitting there. He's unaware they're in any danger because of the deal he made with Big Mom. Again, you're saying Sanji's decisions are bad because he's not considering things he has no knowledge of, which is nonsensical.

U think Sanji is still thinking Luffy is sitting their and Yonko's crew is just ignoring them:elmo:

He didn't know about this until he got to Whole Cake. He left them on Zou and then left Zou because he didn't want the threat to be towards his crew or the country any further.

U still inclined that he protected the crew from Capone???
their is a good amount of chance that
-Chopper is going to become a part of BM's collection because he volunteer to save Sanji.
-Luffy and Nami executed after the ceremony
-And Brook dies fighting commanders.

So what? It's retarded to sit around going "Oh no, Luffy and the others will 100% handle this because I like them, even though our enemies are in a totally different league than us."

Or he could have kicked Capone's a** who is still in the same league as Sanji and wait till Luffy appears and plan what to do next:elmo:

What in the world are you talking about sanji had thought of every possible thing in the present time there is no way out of this for him by going with the marriage he has ensured that the straw hats remain safe and that zeff remains a live sanji knows will on his journey he can't protect zeff in east blue. He also got big mom to let luffy and the rest of the crew go free after the wedding so actually he is saving everyone he does know luffy and Nami are safe via big mom.

What's the guarantee BM is going to free Nami and Luffy after the wedding???
How can u trust that woman who eats her own children because she is hungry???
Pirates words cannot be trusted(as shown in Arlong arc)

Sanji even said when the big mom pirates showed up the mink tribe have been badly injured through a war and he doesn't want to put them through anything

Only Capone's crew came at Zou not BM's crew. And Capone escaped once Neko entered the scene.

else even law said what do you think would happen if they were attacked again so what your saying about Zou or zunisha is bogus

Jack came back and attacked Zou. U know what happened a 1000year old elephant knocked him out. Now he is chilling at the depth of the ocean counting fishes. If BM's crew somehow manage to find Zou without Pekoms(which i dont think is that easy) and reached at the same time as Jack reached after his adventure they would have been destroyed like Jack's fleet was destroyed by Zunisha.

sanji left to protect not only the mink tribe for another attack while sparing his crew and protecting zeff.

that's fanfic. without Pekoms BM's crew would need weeks/months to find Zou. Till that time SH's would have left for Wano.

And there was no way of luffy going after him because pekoms was supposed to be dead which would've made sanji's move full proof

That plan wasn't full proof. Pedro also know how to reach Cake island. And there are millions of possible ways to find BM's hideout like
Lets call our new allies(SH Alliance) somebody might have a clue regarding BM's island or Lets ask direction from Jimbei(who is working wit BM and he said he will finish his business wit her)

even all the straw hats said we don't even know where he is after luffy said let's just go ask sanji until chopper and brook alerted them to the fact that pekoms was still alive. Your saying sanji has trust issues my goodness so if I don't believe the straw hats can handle 2 yonkos at the same time with their enormous crews and an evil mythical army. Even zoro said they couldn't deal with all that so I guess he has trust issues.I guess when luffy told the crew to run when being attacked by kizaru and kuma luffy had trust issue yea trying to protect your crew means you don't trust them no that means your aware of the situation you can't win in those situations.

The only reason Sanji left wit Capone is because of Zeff. He is not protecting his crew.Chopper is now part of BM's weird animal collection and their is no guarantee if BM is going to let Nami and Luffy free.

The way things are playing out now the straw hats will come out on top even luffy said it to big mom. But if they were up against 2 yonkos and germa they would eventually be found easily and inevitably lose.

And 2 yonkos/their crews are never going to collaborate their resources for a common cause. Otherwise somebody like Marco had joined Shanks after WB died.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Comeon now.I already told u BM could make an alliance wit Germa 66 even without Sanji. Pudding would have married any of the borthers Sanji have. BM is not going to send armies behind him.

No she can't, because Judge wouldn't have let any of his other sons get married to Big Mom's daughter. He explicitly said so.

Kidd also destroyed her two ships which caused her huge loss. I dont see homies attacking Kidd :bdpf:

You're assuming two measly ships are worth the same to Big Mom as these deals, which is clearly not the case.

But this is the situation he himself created and he had tonnes of ways like start planning how to leave Cake Island(lets say after the marriage) or ask pudding to find keys for the handcuffs and call Zeff about the situation.

Call Zeff about the situation? And what is Zeff gonna do, run for the rest of his life from powerful assassins constantly on his tail, ruining his life and career at the Baratie?

U think Sanji is still thinking Luffy is sitting their and Yonko's crew is just ignoring them:elmo:

How would Sanji know that Big Mom sent an army after them? The only thing he knows is that he left Luffy there, and that Big Mo said she won't cause them harm. So why would Sanji assume they're in active danger right now?

U still inclined that he protected the crew from Capone???
their is a good amount of chance that
-Chopper is going to become a part of BM's collection because he volunteer to save Sanji.
-Luffy and Nami executed after the ceremony
-And Brook dies fighting commanders.

None of those are things Sanji could have predicted would have happened. Not to mention that they aren't aware that Big Mom has agreed to let them go, which overrides all of these threats to the crew atm.

Or he could have kicked Capone's a** who is still in the same league as Sanji and wait till Luffy appears and plan what to do next:elmo:

Yup, and bring the Big Mom pirates to Zou as they look for the Strawhats, placing right back in the position they were in with Jack and Kaido. Excellent plan.

What's the guarantee BM is going to free Nami and Luffy after the wedding???

There isn't, but not even the reader knows that Big Mom is going back on her word. So how can Sanji know that?

 

[Skull Knight]

No she can't, because Judge wouldn't have let any of his other sons get married to Big Mom's daughter. He explicitly said so.

Incase Sanji was never found and those new posters were never published by WG, then its obvious Pudding has to marry one of the Sanji's brother to form an alliance.
BM would have made Judge accept this decision. He cant go against a Yonko.
So what's the difference here? If Sanji left Zou and went to Wano or any other island, I dont think BM would have sent her army behind him.

You're assuming two measly ships are worth the same to Big Mom as these deals, which is clearly not the case.


Call Zeff about the situation? And what is Zeff gonna do, run for the rest of his life from powerful assassins constantly on his tail, ruining his life and career at the Baratie?

Tamago did mentioned that they suffered huge losses because kidd destroyed it. BM also accepted Luffy's treasure inexchange of Fishman Island. so it was definately a big deal for BM who was ready to destroy an island.

How would Sanji know that Big Mom sent an army after them? The only thing he knows is that he left Luffy there, and that Big Mo said she won't cause them harm. So why would Sanji assume they're in active danger right now?

How can u trust a Pirate who is constant threatening him and had a very bad habbit of destroying islands or killing people because they didnot showed up in her party???
Sanji saw Luffy's injury and still he thinks Luffy would be escorted out of Cake island unharmed makes no sense.

None of those are things Sanji could have predicted would have happened. Not to mention that they aren't aware that Big Mom has agreed to let them go, which overrides all of these threats to the crew atm.

Their is no guarantee BM is going to free them. they are trying to cook Carrot
there is a good chance that Chopper will also became part of BM's collection. Even if BM allows Luffy to leave Cake Island, she can keep Chopper sayin this will remind him(Luffy) not to mess wit BM.

Yup, and bring the Big Mom pirates to Zou as they look for the Strawhats, placing right back in the position they were in with Jack and Kaido. Excellent plan.

this will only happen if they find Zou before Luffy reached there(which is highly unlikely to happen)

There isn't, but not even the reader knows that Big Mom is going back on her word. So how can Sanji know that?

See then how can u trust BM words(whom he met yesterday) and act lovey dovey rather than asking Pudding or some germa fodder that what happened to SHs? or bring him some news regarding them.

 

[RJ22BIG]

I do not blame Sanji for making the decision he made. But hes supposed to be one of the smartest members of this crew. He has not diverted BM attention from the SH because Luffy is not the kind of guy who will just let him leave. Luffy will draw attention to himself that's the kind of guy he is and you know that. From the decision that Sanjj has made right now the result will be that Luffy gets himself killed because he wont leave Sanji and that's the end of the SH. If I was Sanji right now I wouldn't be all that happy because he has not saved the SH. Please tell me how what Sanji has done saves the SH knowing what Sanji knows about Luffy?
Especially after this page where Luffy says he wont move till Sanji comes back. Does Sanji actually think theres any chance they are leaving.
Where did I say Sanji was wrong? I said he was stupid if he thinks that hes going to be able to leave the SH that easily. I love how you keep bringing up Zoro as if that has any relevance. The Sanji Zoro rivalry between the characters and fanbase means **** all to me and I don't give a **** about what Zoro would do. And Zoro saying what he did fits exactly in to his character. Sanji right now is showing that he does not know Luffy. Hes in a tough spot but him acting all lovey dovey is him just being stupid because the way things are right now Luffy is about to die. The only reason I am annoyed is because I like Sanji and hes acting like an idiot. If I was in Sanjis situation and I knew what I knew about Luffy then I would think theres no way I'm getting out of this without somebody dying. I would have to make a choice. Zeff or the SH.

Wow well that shows a lot about your character so not choosing between your friends or your father dying makes you stupid with all do respect man that's has to be the dumbest most selfish thing I've possibly ever heard you would literally choose either choose between your father and your closest friends man that's really dark I would glad give myself up for a chance that they would all remain safe if that's what you call an idiot then there is no point arguing with you because I to am clearly an idiot. Sanji knows who luffy is and luffy knows who sanji is neither would ever sit back and let the other someone else get hurt for them just like luffy sanji would do anything for the crew even when robin told sanji she was leaving he wouldn't let her go he went and waited for the sea train. Even when zoro told sanji to wait for the others because cp9 was to strong for him alone luffy told zoro would you wait if I told you robin was sacrificing herself for them. It's obvious you don't understand these characters they are all stubborn when it comes to the M3 they would never let someone get hurt for them. Luffy knows that about sanji and sanji knows that about luffy. If the roles were reversed sanji wouldn't leave luffy no matter what he did maybe you should gets some clarity on who these characters are and what they stand for.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Incase Sanji was never found and those new posters were never published by WG, then its obvious Pudding has to marry one of the Sanji's brother to form an alliance.
BM would have made Judge accept this decision. He cant go against a Yonko.
So what's the difference here? If Sanji left Zou and went to Wano or any other island, I dont think BM would have sent her army behind him.

BM couldn't have forced Judge to do anything. He outright said he'd refuse to let that happen, so they'd have just ended up fighting with Judge losing.

Tamago did mentioned that they suffered huge losses because kidd destroyed it. BM also accepted Luffy's treasure inexchange of Fishman Island. so it was definately a big deal for BM who was ready to destroy an island.

No he didn't.

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Big Mom accepted the treasure because Luffy told her he'd take the blame, and she said she'd wait for him.

How can u trust a Pirate who is constant threatening him and had a very bad habbit of destroying islands or killing people because they didnot showed up in her party???
Sanji saw Luffy's injury and still he thinks Luffy would be escorted out of Cake island unharmed makes no sense.

Because he has no choice.

The injury doesn't matter because it occurred BEFORE Sanji made the deal.

Their is no guarantee BM is going to free them. they are trying to cook Carrot

Of course not, but the alternatives are not trying or fighting BM, both of which would lead to horrible results, so Sanji has to do SOMETHING. It's the best possible option atm.

there is a good chance that Chopper will also became part of BM's collection. Even if BM allows Luffy to leave Cake Island, she can keep Chopper sayin this will remind him(Luffy) not to mess wit BM.

She said the entire crew, so this is nothing but speculation.

this will only happen if they find Zou before Luffy reached there(which is highly unlikely to happen)

Sanji didn't know this.

See then how can u trust BM words(whom he met yesterday) and act lovey dovey rather than asking Pudding or some germa fodder that what happened to SHs? or bring him some news regarding them.

1. How would Pudding know?

2. Sanji doesn't even know that an update is needed, so it's stupid to say that he should be.

 

[Skull Knight]

BM couldn't have forced Judge to do anything. He outright said he'd refuse to let that happen, so they'd have just ended up fighting with Judge losing.

If Judge lost one of the brother would have to marry pudding. And that coward would have given his sons incase Sanji didnot showed up in that party.

No he didn't.Big Mom accepted the treasure because Luffy told her he'd take the blame, and she said she'd wait for him.

Yes he did. This issue was again brought up by Tamago means they have suffered huge losses from Kidd and they dissolved the pact after Ceasar was on SH's ship.

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Because he has no choice.

The injury doesn't matter because it occurred BEFORE Sanji made the deal.

He had :bdpf:

Of course not, but the alternatives are not trying or fighting BM, both of which would lead to horrible results, so Sanji has to do SOMETHING. It's the best possible option atm.

Yes but he could start planning how to escape from that place.

She said the entire crew, so this is nothing but speculation.

But her words cannot be trusted:elmo:
Just think why is she keeping them in that prison if she is going to let them free?

1. How would Pudding know?

2. Sanji doesn't even know that an update is needed, so it's stupid to say that he should be.

Of course any person would want an update of what happened after he left. He was crying a minute ago sayin Luffy will not leave that place and now he is ok that BM herself will escort Luffy out of Cake island without any fighting.

Sanji didn't know this.

This is for u and Rj2BIGG(who are constantly sayin BM crew will attack Zou)

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without Pekoms BM's crew would need weeks/months to find Zou.

 

[Punk Hazard]

If Judge lost one of the brother would have to marry pudding. And that coward would have given his sons incase Sanji didnot showed up in that party.

Says who?

Yes he did. This issue was again brought up by Tamago means they have suffered huge losses from Kidd and they dissolved the pact after Ceasar was on SH's ship.

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Those images don't correlate to what you're saying whatsoever.

He had :bdpf:

He doesn't. They can't fight back, so he has to do SOMETHING to ensure they're safety. This was the only way he could do that.

Yes but he could start planning how to escape from that place.

Which would be a poor decision, since he'd have no way of protecting Zeff if he did. If Sanji escaped, he'd be condemning Zeff to a life of doing nothing but constantly running. He chose to sacrifice his adventure to keep the lives of his loved ones intact.

But her words cannot be trusted:elmo:
Just think why is she keeping them in that prison if she is going to let them free?

To ensure they don't ruin the wedding. Once the wedding is done, that's when she's gonna have them forcibly escorted out of the country.

Of course any person would want an update of what happened after he left. He was crying a minute ago sayin Luffy will not leave that place and now he is ok that BM herself will escort Luffy out of Cake island without any fighting.

And? As far as he's aware, nothing is immediately threatening them. He doesn't have the knowledge that would be required for him to logically ask for an update.

This is for u and Rj2BIGG(who are constantly sayin BM crew will attack Zou)

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without Pekoms BM's crew would need weeks/months to find Zou.

This doesn't disprove that BM could have found Zou. Jack found Zou without Pekoms, so why can't Big Mom?

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Pretty good chapter. I don't like that Sanji's still allowing himself to be swooning when such his crew is in peril. But I guess we just have to deal with it. Brook and Pedro going on the offensive is pretty sweet, even though locking them out of the room seems bizarre that they'd be incompetent enough to let that happen. I also like the elaboration on the nature of the Barbarian Chess Army, and that Brook finally has a latent advantage over something.

I'd wager Purin is going defect or rebel, as we see she had a solid relationship with Lola, and she holds the Straw Hats in a high regard. She says she's going to screw things up, and the easiest way for her would be to anger Big Mom. If she does that by running away, then that would be... bad. For everyone. She could either do that or refuses to marry Sanji, which the only difference there is that she's still in the line of fire.

She may end up being responsible for liberating the Straw Hats, but I feel like that would be after everything's gone to hell. I think if she can get Sanji's bomb cuffs off, then they could escape, but then they would have to focus on their own survival. It's also just as possible that that's phase three in Brook and Pedro's Excellent (Mis)Adventure. I think it would be easier for them to save Chopper and Carrot, and then use their relatively full strength in a jailbreak.

I keep having to bring this up in whatever thread I'm browsing, but once again, having Law here solve a lot of problems like moving the Poneglyphs, infiltration, jailbreaking Luffy and Nami, making sure the chef can still cook when this is all said and done, taking out the major threats, prescribing medicine, moving furniture, removing splinters, trimming the cat's nails, helping with homework, cleaning your room, taking out the garbage, folding laundry ... the list of things Law is useful for goes on and on. Really, every house should have one.

I dont think shes gonna off herself.. But be a mere distraction.. Cause By her killing herself.. Shes gonna cost the SH life.. Trust me it wont happen.. If it does then I see no way of luffy gettn better..

Also I did NOT notice brook DF power being a perfect match for big mam... But I see no way for him to escape... but pedro is putting in work.. I atually wanna see more of brook them

 

[loj]

Says who?


Those images don't correlate to what you're saying whatsoever.


He doesn't. They can't fight back, so he has to do SOMETHING to ensure they're safety. This was the only way he could do that.



Which would be a poor decision, since he'd have no way of protecting Zeff if he did. If Sanji escaped, he'd be condemning Zeff to a life of doing nothing but constantly running. He chose to sacrifice his adventure to keep the lives of his loved ones intact.



To ensure they don't ruin the wedding. Once the wedding is done, that's when she's gonna have them forcibly escorted out of the country.



And? As far as he's aware, nothing is immediately threatening them. He doesn't have the knowledge that would be required for him to logically ask for an update.



This doesn't disprove that BM could have found Zou. Jack found Zou without Pekoms, so why can't Big Mom?

You are talking about Sanji making poor decision...him being in this situation lead with him doing bad dicisions...Sanji lost his plot he better have something up his sleeve since this is pathetic...

 

[Punk Hazard]

You are talking about Sanji making poor decision...him being in this situation lead with him doing bad dicisions...Sanji lost his plot he better have something up his sleeve since this is pathetic...

"Sanji made poor decisions"

>Does nothing to explain how or justify why the alternative options were better

Yeah okay kid

 

[loj]

"Sanji made poor decisions"

>Does nothing to explain how or justify why the alternative options were better

Yeah okay kid

Bruh..if Sanji was frank from begining non of this would have happened >_> Sanji made things 100% worse now since not only Kaido is going for their asses now they have problems with BM as well...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Bruh..if Sanji was frank from begining non of this would have happened >_>

What? How does Sanji being frank change any of this?

 

[loj]

What? How does Sanji being frank change any of this?

How da phuc not,when they seen Sanji only alive poster they could of already had ideas why...hence they would of acted differently from begining.

If Sanji explained his background before we would of had different scenarios...

 

[Punk Hazard]

How da phuc not,when they seen Sanji only alive poster they could of already had ideas why...hence they would of acted differently from begining.

HOW. DOES. THIS. CHANGE. WHAT. HAPPENED.

haga

 

[loj]

HOW. DOES. THIS. CHANGE. WHAT. HAPPENED.

haga

Sanji wouldn't play the hero and going alone to BM trying to be like Robin lol the moment he agreed with Capone at that moment he fuked up.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sanji wouldn't play the hero and going alone to BM trying to be like Robin lol the moment he agreed with Capone at that moment he fuked up.

So he was supposed to tell Capone no and then hang around on Zou, attracting Big Mom's attention to that island and bringing her wrath towards it. So it's better for Sanji to bring Big Mom to Zou and the Strawhats, than to try and divert Big Mom away from both?

 

[loj]

So he was supposed to tell Capone no and then hang around on Zou, attracting Big Mom's attention to that island and bringing her wrath towards it. So it's better for Sanji to bring Big Mom to Zou and the Strawhats, than to try and divert Big Mom away from both?

Literally same shit since the captain is on BM's island...if anything they would of been in bigger numbers with Law and his crew and rest of SH's...can't be worse than situation now...isn't it funny that Luffy still doesn't know why Sanji does this LMFAO! Hence Sanji kicked Luffy's ass without giving him a little info...Even if Sanji left but was frank the situation would of been different since probs whole SH's would of gone to help Sanji...Luffy is basically alone since Nami,Carrot and Chopper are fuk all when it comes to fighting and Pedro and Brook are clearly not on Luffy's level.What can Luffy do alone here against BM...hands in fire if situation wouldn't have been different if Sanji told everything to SH's from beginning...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Literally same shit since the captain is on BM's island...

Except on BM's island, Sanji can strike a deal to appease Big Mom to get her to leave them alone and forcibly escort them out of the country. On Zou, not only is the country in danger again and not ready to do battle again, but the Strawhats would get pummeled.

if anything they would of been in bigger numbers with Law and his crew and rest of SH's...can't be worse than situation now...

Luffy, Law, and tons of Colosseum fighters BARELY brought down the Donquixote family. Do you think they'd fair much better against an Emperor?

isn't it funny that Luffy still doesn't know why Sanji does this LMFAO! Hence Sanji kicked Luffy's ass without giving him a little info...Even if Sanji left but was frank the situation would of been different since probs whole SH's would of gone to help Sanji

Wouldn't change anything. Even if the SHs knew, the choice would still be:

1. Give Big Mom Sanji?

2. Reject Big Mom and incur enough wrath to be actively pursued?

Only one of these results in the death of the crew unless Oda is secretly about to up them in the power scaling.