[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 785 Discussion and 786 Predictions

[ultraChalk]

It was in honour of King Riku's speech I believe..

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Hmm he could've thought of a better name I think.

 

[A v i]

Of course we will see more of it in future, it doesn't change the fact it's all very underwhelming at the moment

Turning objects into rubber would be retarded and serve no purpose at all. I've got a couple of ideas:
-Liquid properties as a temporary pseudo logia
-Rebounding any and all damage (possibly with liquid like properties to allow a shift of kinetic energy in his body to be released straight back at opponents)

Luffy's fruit in general is useless as hell and look at what Oda has been pulling with it. Don't underestimate the power of Oda's creativity. We can't predict what he might come up with in future.


I'd personally prefer Luffy's haki to get evolved than new gears and crap.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Luffy's fruit in general is useless as hell and look at what Oda has been pulling with it. Don't underestimate the power of Oda's creativity. We can't predict what he might come up with in future.


I'd personally prefer Luffy's haki to get evolved than new gears and crap.

Well the fruit clearly isn't useless. Hurling around pieces of rubber isn't gonna do much.

His awakening might be G5 or something

 

[Skylar Knight]

So Crocodile's awakening could possibly be that moisture-sucking hand of his? Just a thought.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

So Crocodile's awakening could possibly be that moisture-sucking hand of his? Just a thought.

I think that's a consensus opinion

 

[A v i]

Well the fruit clearly isn't useless. Hurling around pieces of rubber isn't gonna do much.

His awakening might be G5 or something

We think it isn't useless because of Oda's creativity and how he presented it. Otherwise all of us or at least simple minded people like my self would assume that all Luffy can do with his fruit is to stretch his body parts.

It seems like some people are under the impression that all awakening abilities will work same but I highly doubt it. Every fruit has it's own unique awakening abilities that works differently IMO. So as you said Luffy's awakening might end up being G5.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

We think it isn't useless because of Oda's creativity and how he presented it. Otherwise all of us or at least simple minded people like my self would assume that all Luffy can do with his fruit is to stretch his body parts.

It seems like some people are under the impression that all awakening abilities will work same but I highly doubt it. Every fruit has it's own unique awakening abilities that works differently IMO. So as you said Luffy's awakening might end up being G5.

And I'm not talking about the face value of the fruit. Therefore any of this "useless" stuff you keep going on about has no relevance to what I was saying

Why impose an irrelevant opinion in a discussion that has nothing to do with Odas portrayal and Luffys versatility and creativity as a character when this is strictly about awakenings?

I never said awakening abilities will all be the same. If you read some of this thread and other threads posted today you would know this. So why bring it up?

 

[cryhwks]

Luffy's fruit in general is useless as hell and look at what Oda has been pulling with it. Don't underestimate the power of Oda's creativity. We can't predict what he might come up with in future.


I'd personally prefer Luffy's haki to get evolved than new gears and crap.

Well what I want is for Luffy to master both. I think a lot of the most powerful people will find in the world of One Piece are the ones who have completely mastered both there DF and Haki. I think the big example of this that we'll see is Kaido. I think one of the big reasons why Oda is reintroducing this is Kaido.

 

[shinjojin]

Ok, I got around to reading the whole chapter yesterday and here are my thoughts:

While I do find the ongoing fight between Doflamingo and Luffy super enjoyable with all the new techniques that were shown, it did felt a little short to me. As for the part with Riku making another speech to all the civilians, i didn't really care for it, nor did i care for the scene with Franky and the dwarfs. Also, I wasn't surprised about Burgess being the person that Koala was talking to Sabo about long ago, nor was I surprised about Haki having a limitation since it's pretty obvious with Haki being the "Ki" of the One Piece world and such so that was a given.


However, what really got my attention in this chapter was the info about the devil fruits' awakened states, which i though only applied to the zoan fruit users back in Impel down. The existence of awakened Paramecia and awakened Logia fruits had me very intrigued since that definitely does open up a lot of possibilities. Hmm, I wonder what Robin's Hana Hana fruit's awakened abilities would be like...or.....maybe if its possible that she already had awakened her fruit and we didn't even noticed it until now. I mean it does make a lot of sense if you think about it. It would definitely explain a few things about her post-TS abilities, ESPECIALLY how she was able to create those flapping hands to execute her Moth Orchid technique, which most of us assumed that she sprouted them out of the air or sprouted them out of the ground and have them "release/detach" themselves off the ground when in actuality, even though it's still somewhat like the latter, she turned the surrounding flowers into hands and have them flap above ground and into the air like butterflies. Like i said, it's only a possibility. As for why Robin didn't bother to tell Luffy about this (assuming if it really was the case), it probably may have something to do with a potential requirement, something that would not sit well with Luffy at all as it might go against his principles. Anyway, this is all theory at the moment.

So yeah, that's all I have to say on the chapter for now. Overall, this chapter was good but not as good as the previous chapter. Still, I am looking forward to the next chapter since a part of me does feel that Doflamingo is not down and out juuuuust yet.

 

[Olorin]

Great chapter ... I just want 10k

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Now this chapter is hitting one of the bizarre cases, DF awakening, and it doesn't look like something easy Luffy can achieve it. I guess this is the part where Dr. Vegapunk is gonna show up and be of a great help into awakening Luffy's DF.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Anyone else notice the kid with the bear on his shirt actually has Kuma on his shirt?

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Love how one panel of Fuji standing still=Fuji doing nothing. He's helping the people evacuate, how is that nothing?

 

[Punk Hazard]

The ending caption clearly stated the fight was over.

We had the moment of hopelessness, the rousing speech, and Doflamingo pulling his strongest attack and clashing it with Luffy's strongest attack.

All the ingredients of the last chapter in a main villain of arc fight.

It was described in the *********** version as a decisive fatal blow.

Yes, yes, the same note that didn't know whether or not Law was dead knows that the fight is over, well done.

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

20 minutes and Zoro still hasn't gotten rid of the birdcage? Maybe they couldn't and instead just stalled it's speed of shrinking... Thus shutting everyone up who keep saying "why would Oda show Zoro run to stop the birdcage then Luffy end's up doing by beating Doffy" :/

 

[xanonymosx]

Anyone else notice the kid with the bear on his shirt actually has Kuma on his shirt?

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Love how one panel of Fuji standing still=Fuji doing nothing. He's helping the people evacuate, how is that nothing?

oh he helped a little kid getting back to his mother !! yeah that sure redeems not helping the other thousands of people (and many kids among them) who are living in terror right now -_-

tbh i dont blame fuji cause it`s plot that holding him from one shotting the bird cage but what bothers me is the way he was portrayed
oda portrayed him as somone who puts civilians saftey on top of his priority but now with plot he seems like an old hypocrite who is using the life of the people whom he is pretending to care a bout (which makes the first thing he should do is taking down the damn cage immediately) as a scapegoat to build a case against the warlords which makes it look more like a personal grudge

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

20 minutes and Zoro still hasn't gotten rid of the birdcage? Maybe they couldn't and instead just stalled it's speed of shrinking... Thus shutting everyone up who keep saying "why would Oda show Zoro run to stop the birdcage then Luffy end's up doing by beating Doffy" :/

It's been like 2 minutes dude. One panel doesn' = one minute

oh he helped a little kid getting back to his mother !! yeah that sure redeems not helping the other thousands of people (and many kids among them) who are living in terror right now -_-

tbh i dont blame fuji cause it`s plot that holding him from one shotting the bird cage but what bothers me is the way he was portrayed
oda portrayed him as somone who puts civilians saftey on top of his priority but now with plot he seems like an old hypocrite who is using the life of the people whom he is pretending to care a bout (which makes the first thing he should do is taking down the damn cage immediately) as a scapegoat to build a case against the warlords which makes it look more like a personal grudge

True, he can probably reverse gravity from a certain radius (outside of the center where the citizens are) once everone is close enough to the center and force the birdcage to expand. I reckon either the birdcage is stopped in its tracks or this happens.

 

[Reaper]

So Crocodile's awakening could possibly be that moisture-sucking hand of his? Just a thought.

I hope not,it would be pushing it rly far if early series Luffy beat an Awakend Logia.
That is if the awakening is a big powerboost.

Tbh I want it to be something that only a select few can do,maybe only those with Conquerors Haki

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I hope not,it would be pushing it rly far if early series Luffy beat an Awakend Logia.
That is if the awakening is a big powerboost.

Tbh I want it to be something that only a select few can do,maybe only those with Conquerors Haki

It's already pushing it that Croc was so weak in Alabasta and then somehow powered up in Impel Down to become about as strong as Jinbe who is arguably on the same level as the M3, as well as the fact he could easily endure Jozus attacks (Diamond + Haki) but Luffy's punches were somehow more powerful than that...

 

[Punk Hazard]

oh he helped a little kid getting back to his mother !! yeah that sure redeems not helping the other thousands of people (and many kids among them) who are living in terror right now -_-

tbh i dont blame fuji cause it`s plot that holding him from one shotting the bird cage but what bothers me is the way he was portrayed
oda portrayed him as somone who puts civilians saftey on top of his priority but now with plot he seems like an old hypocrite who is using the life of the people whom he is pretending to care a bout (which makes the first thing he should do is taking down the damn cage immediately) as a scapegoat to build a case against the warlords which makes it look more like a personal grudge

Are you daft? There's no way he can help ALL of the people in danger, but he's helping as many as he can. I just love how so many people know what's happening off-panel. Yes, that makes sense. Fujitora, the man who's top priority is helping people and has been shown helping people, is just standing around watching people die. I applaud you all.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Are you daft? There's no way he can help ALL of the people in danger, but he's helping as many as he can. I just love how so many people know what's happening off-panel. Yes, that makes sense. Fujitora, the man who's top priority is helping people and has been shown helping people, is just standing around watching people die. I applaud you all.

Who said he was just watching people die?