On Customs

Would you want this to happen ?

  • Yes, I would like this to happen

    Votes: 15 57.7%
  • No, this is a waste

    Votes: 11 42.3%

  • Total voters
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On Submission and Usage of Customs :


Some people are too dependant on their customs, but customs make RPing on NB a hell of a lot more fun ; and since users who could earlier submit customs but now are re ranked to, say, Chuunin or Jonin have to wait roughly two months to submit customs, they will start losing interest.

Also, notice that most Jonin's in the Naruto World have their own "signature moves" - customs- e.g Raikiri, Brning Ash Accumulation, Genjutsu: Tree Bind Death etc. , and that since in the new system it is tougher to get to Jonin, I think that customs have to be allowed for Jonin's atleast.

For this reason, I believe that users must be allowed to submit customs from Jonin.
Perhaps it should be :

Jonin - upto B Rank
S-Class: Upto A Rank
and Sannin - All Ranks

Moving on,


On Restarting from Scratch :


While on the subject of customs, I cannot help noticing that the customs approved in the initial parts of the Custom Jutsu SUbmission thread before the stringent restrictions were imposed, or the customs approved by the mods before the custom submission thread opened are overpowered when compared to the customs submitted later.

Here is where I say that you should disallow all existing customs and make a new thread - this will definitely make it fairer. And I myself do not stand to gain by this, since I too will lose customs - but I do think that wold be fairer on both the new users, and the battle system.

For example compare this customs posted early,

(Doujutsu: Amaterasu Soujuu)-Eye Technique: Amaterasu Manipulation
Rank: Forbidden
Type: Supplementary
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: Varies
Description: The user forms an amaterasu flame that can then be manipulated into anything he/she wishes.
Note: User must have Mangekyou Sharingan.
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(Raiton: Sekkyoku Raiton)-Lightning Release: Positive Lightning
Rank: S
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user charges their Raiton techniques with positive charged lightning instead of the regular negative charged one. Positive charge lightning is ten times more powerful than the average lightning and can reach temeperatures up to 30,000 ?C (54,000 ?F).
Note: This technique is based off of real facts about lightning.
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(Raiton: Senmu Gisei)-Lightning Release: Conductor Imitation
Rank: A
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Type: Supplementary
Description: This jutsu allows the user to absorb natural electricity or lightning (not elemental chakra) and use it to "recharge" their own chakra reserves. The user has to hold the rat hand sign while absorbing raiton chakra and must stay still. A Raiton Bunshin may be used to absorb the lightning and chakra can be transferred from Bunshin to user.
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with these posted later, whch was still declined
Lightning Style: Heated Lightning Aura (Raiton: Atsusa Raikou Reiki)

Type: Supplementary
Rank: A
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 30 (-20 for every turn its still on)
Damage Points: 10 (if in contact), +10 to all taijutsu, +10 to all lightning ninjutsu
Description: Asserting lightning chakra all around the body, the user is able to boost the strength of their taijutsu and lightning jutsu. Anyone within arms length of the user will be electrocuted and burned. If the user goes in contact near a body of water the user can electrocute anyone on or in the water. Whenever this jutsu is still activated the user cannot be harmed by B rank or lower water jutsu
Note: Lasts one turns and must wait two more turns after using it again
Note: Can only be used by XxxxX

Note: The user can use water jutsu without being harmed
PLEASE NOTE: I am not blaming the Mods for this; the stringent rules were introduced slightly later

BUt going back to my point since a few customs are overpwered, we need parity.

The moderators cannot review every single page, and it would be ridiculous of me to expect them to do so.
However, since the aim of the new rules is to indeed establish fairness, and there has to be more parity in submitting customs, I suggest we remove all existing customs, and tell members to re-submit if they want them back, in a new thread.To prevent people from re-submitting all their customs at a go, we should perhaps maintain Nexus' rules of no more than four or five jutsus a week.

And, yes, there will be a few members angry about this measure, but I maintain that the majority of NB users are rational people and will understand the reason behind this measure.
Also, it is not as if they will "lose" their customs - it is just a temporary wait to ensure fairness - this will also help new RPers / moderately experienced RPers not having to fight users with inordinately powerful customs, who are Sannin now, or will become Sannin in the future.

WHat do you all think ?
 

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Absolutely not, this is pretty extreme, enough is happening as it is. You talk about being fair, but this is only fair to the new people and seems pretty unfair to the people who have to resubmit. Theres a much simpler way for the fights to be fair on new members, they can just say no customs. So this is unneccesary extra work. They'll be enough complaints as it is, and even more when all the previosly approved customs start getting declined so people will in fact lose customs. The theres other issues such as Custom elements, what happens with them. They'll be useless for a period of time. Then they'll be issues of people submitting others customs or similar ones. And can you imagine the work when everyone submits 5 customs at the same time. I don't have a problem with the mods working, its there job but they have enough to do without having to do unnecessary trivial things such as this.

It sucks with people leaving as it is and this is only going to lead to more people leaving. I greatly appreciate all the work the everyone does but too many rules and changes are gonna kill off the RP here.

I believe your main point was its unfair on the new members but as i said they can just say no customs in their fights until they customs of their own. It's simpler, easier and fairer. The fact that people would have to resubmit their customs would annoy people enough but then with all the ones that get declined and were previously approved, its just gonna be crazy.
 

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U won't be surprise...


I don't agree...

U lost me at the part :resubmit all ur custom.

No dude. I've waited 4 months to get all of them accepted I won't wait an other one.

Plus the issue of this poll is worthless because there is a lot more weak people (new member) which don't have to many custom and would like the stronger member to lose their custom for the time they resubmit them.
 

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Absolutely not, this is pretty extreme, enough is happening as it is. You talk about being fair, but this is only fair to the new people and seems pretty unfair to the people who have to resubmit. Theres a much simpler way for the fights to be fair on new members, they can just say no customs. So this is unneccesary extra work. They'll be enough complaints as it is, and even more when all the previosly approved customs start getting declined so people will in fact lose customs. The theres other issues such as Custom elements, what happens with them. They'll be useless for a period of time. Then they'll be issues of people submitting others customs or similar ones. And can you imagine the work when everyone submits 5 customs at the same time. I don't have a problem with the mods working, its there job but they have enough to do without having to do unnecessary trivial things such as this.

It sucks with people leaving as it is and this is only going to lead to more people leaving. I greatly appreciate all the work the everyone does but too many rules and changes are gonna kill off the RP here.

I believe your main point was its unfair on the new members but as i said they can just say no customs in their fights until they customs of their own. It's simpler, easier and fairer. The fact that people would have to resubmit their customs would annoy people enough but then with all the ones that get declined and were previously approved, its just gonna be crazy.
You fail to realise certain points :

One : It is NOT unfair to the people who resubmit ; if they have acceptably powered customs they have nothing to fear
Two: There are not many people who will agree to a No CUstoms match, especially not experieced fighters
Three: The same work as when everyone submits five customs at a time happened before the new rules came in and nothing happened then majorly to slow down the submission
 

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Izuna, as a Sensei, I am sure u would want ur students to be capable of winning fights against others, and not losing just because the other person came on the site early and hence posted customs when the rules were not so stringent - also when the other members are going to have to WAIT MORE THAN A MONTH OR MAYBE TWO MONTHS to get back to even their original rank, ONE MONTH WAITING for the people who have customs - including myself - should not be an issue.
 

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You fail to realise certain points :

One : It is NOT unfair to the people who resubmit ; if they have acceptably powered customs they have nothing to fear
Two: There are not many people who will agree to a No CUstoms match, especially not experieced fighters
Three: The same work as when everyone submits five customs at a time happened before the new rules came in and nothing happened then majorly to slow down the submission
I'm not gonna argue with you, i like that you are trying to improve things but this is one suggestion i don't agree with.

Surely its unfair, being left without your customs for what could be more than a month if they are acceptably powered, its just unnecessary. I'm pretty sure i could find a no custom match in no time, and it would probably be with one of the more experienced fighters.

I disagree and don't think this is fair or necessary, sorry
 

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I'm not gonna argue with you, i like that you are trying to improve things but this is one suggestion i don't agree with.

Surely its unfair, being left without your customs for what could be more than a month if they are acceptably powered, its just unnecessary. I'm pretty sure i could find a no custom match in no time, and it would probably be with one of the more experienced fighters.

I disagree and don't think this is fair or necessary, sorry
Your wish U_U
 

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Izuna, as a Sensei, I am sure u would want ur students to be capable of winning fights against others, and not losing just because the other person came on the site early and hence posted customs when the rules were not so stringent - also when the other members are going to have to WAIT MORE THAN A MONTH OR MAYBE TWO MONTHS to get back to even their original rank, ONE MONTH WAITING for the people who have customs - including myself - should not be an issue.

Look I was ''raise'' if I may say, with the old rules and all these overpowered people around me. What I learned is that if u have creativity and desire u will get strong here. So i'm not worried for my student.

But the fact is, it will take more than a month to get my custom back. I'm sure that they are all right considering that my most powerful one were made when the mods were accepting only logical custom. But I don't want to wait all that time.

I'm sure u had the best intention of being fair while doing that, but what ur doing is being unfair to the loyal and older member the advantage the new member (which we don't even know if they will stay on the site).

This makes no sense to me, and I strongly disagree with ur idea.
 

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Izuna, as a Sensei, I am sure u would want ur students to be capable of winning fights against others, and not losing just because the other person came on the site early and hence posted customs when the rules were not so stringent - also when the other members are going to have to WAIT MORE THAN A MONTH OR MAYBE TWO MONTHS to get back to even their original rank, ONE MONTH WAITING for the people who have customs - including myself - should not be an issue.
At the end of the day whether or not customs are overpowered is a matter of opinion. As i said this is just so unnecessary. New people can just say no customs which is what most of them do, i doubt they're gonna be fighting the stronger people here anyway
 

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Look I was ''raise'' if I may say, with the old rules and all these overpowered people around me. What I learned is that if u have creativity and desire u will get strong here. So i'm not worried for my student.

But the fact is, it will take more than a month to get my custom back. I'm sure that they are all right considering that my most powerful one were made when the mods were accepting only logical custom. But I don't want to wait all that time.

I'm sure u had the best intention of being fair while doing that, but what ur doing is being unfair to the loyal and older member the advantage the new member (which we don't even know if they will stay on the site).

This makes no sense to me, and I strongly disagree with ur idea.
I completely agree, please emp remain openminded and read this, i think its great your trying to make things fairer and i praise you for that but i strongly beleive that this is not the way to do it
 

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At the end of the day whether or not customs are overpowered is a matter of opinion. As i said this is just so unnecessary. New people can just say no customs which is what most of them do, i doubt they're gonna be fighting the stronger people here anyway
But they have to fight the stringer peple a some point rigt ? It cannot be all new members vs new members and stronger vs stronger - there has to be some overlap - and that means fair fights -

ALso, I highly doubt it is a matter of opinion. Perhaps, to EVERYBODY ( excelpt the user ) the custom I mentioned or others are overpowered, there is no getting away from it.
 

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OK everyone take it easy please. state your opinions, vote in the poll and don't argue.
for the record: we could only check the first pages, that have jutsus submitted under the first rules.
 

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Look I was ''raise'' if I may say, with the old rules and all these overpowered people around me. What I learned is that if u have creativity and desire u will get strong here. So i'm not worried for my student.

But the fact is, it will take more than a month to get my custom back. I'm sure that they are all right considering that my most powerful one were made when the mods were accepting only logical custom. But I don't want to wait all that time.

I'm sure u had the best intention of being fair while doing that, but what ur doing is being unfair to the loyal and older member the advantage the new member (which we don't even know if they will stay on the site).

This makes no sense to me, and I strongly disagree with ur idea.
If, Izuna, then you are sure your customs are fine - you can have a problem with only one other aspect - the time taken.

But, currently, there are not quite a LOT of people who can challenge you and push you to defeat unless you use your customs - infact, I doubt there is one to challenge the senseis - the time limit should be fine, right ?
 

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But they have to fight the stringer peple a some point rigt ? It cannot be all new members vs new members and stronger vs stronger - there has to be some overlap - and that means fair fights -

ALso, I highly doubt it is a matter of opinion. Perhaps, to EVERYBODY ( excelpt the user ) the custom I mentioned or others are overpowered, there is no getting away from it.
Yes, but by the time they fight strong people they'll have customs of their own or can do a no customs fight. And the example you gave are extremes but ive never seen anyone use them in my short time here. Those ones, yes, most people would agree are overpowered but its not always so clear, and whether a custom is OP is very debateable
 

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All of you guys are making good arguments... Now, I'm not so sure... :|

Resubmitting customs has it's good and really bad effects...

The good: Overpowered customs that were approved will be declined, as they should be.

The bad: People will be angry if their best customs get declined when they were approved before. That would cause chaos. @_@...

I just don't know anymore...
 

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OK everyone take it easy please. state your opinions, vote in the poll and don't argue.
for the record: we could only check the first pages, that have jutsus submitted under the first rules.
That would be fine too, Rei -

Can we also have people who are willing to re submit their customs re-submit them ?

That would be fine too, Rei -

Can we also have people who are willing to re submit their customs re-submit them ?
However, is everyone in accord with the rank submission and usage part of the idea ?
 
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That would be fine too, Rei -

Can we also have people who are willing to re submit their customs re-submit them ?


However, is everyone in accord with the rank submission and usage part of the idea ?
The Rank part i do agree with however i suggest you wait and see the changes in the next few days, this was discussed in another thread and i believe the mods are already doing something similar
 

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If, Izuna, then you are sure your customs are fine - you can have a problem with only one other aspect - the time taken.

But, currently, there are not quite a LOT of people who can challenge you and push you to defeat unless you use your customs - infact, I doubt there is one to challenge the senseis - the time limit should be fine, right ?
Dude, u said it urself at the begining.

The reason why the RPG is fun here is because of the custom we can make. It define the character we incarn here. If u take my custom for a time period of over 2 month (and don't argue on that it will surly take that time minimum) all the fun will be taken away.

I'm fine with taking away the apparent overpowered custom like the one u pointed out, but let's not overeact.

Let's go layer by layer. What ur doing is just too drastic.
 
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