Oh HELL NO!!!!!! George Zimmerman was released

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Well even thou the whole world knows he is guilty..We (the united states) still have to give him due process.. but the whole court system is racially jacked up.. i mean a jury let cassie anthony go and all the evidence pointed towards her killing her daughter. George Zimmerman knows he's guilty all the evidence clearly states he did it. This bail is pretty much his last time to say goodbye to his family and friends. Think of it as his living funeral.
 

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I could understand if the guy was a "mass" murderer who "had" to be stopped. But he killed one kid. Many die every day, and who knows what that kid was doing to make him get shot. It can't be a racist thing because the guy who shot was part of the neighborhood watch comity, he sees black people daily. I'm sure he didn't just wake up and say "I'm going to shoot an african american" today. And then you have the media constantly bringing it up. They are only bringing it up because it's a story with high ratings and they'll keep shoving it down our throats for that extra dollar because people love to over-react. Just disgusting.
 

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Its only being made a big deal because its an election year and its easy ratings for the media. Its funny how the media always shows pictures of him from like 5 years ago trying to portray him as some innocent little kid when in reality he was far from it. There have been 3 shootings within 10 miles of me within the last week, and if I remember correctly from the news 2 of them were teenagers and almost nobody but people who watched the local news here heard anything about it.
 

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Wft ppl are saying he just killed one kid!!! How many people do y'all know he killed a kid and was set free
Out on bail and being set free have nothing in common. Its not like hes some sadistic butcher or child molester, if he was bailed out he was deemed to not be a threat to society and hes still facing charges, he just gets to wait for trial at home rather than in jail.
 

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Wft ppl are saying he just killed one kid!!! How many people do y'all know he killed a kid and was set free
Casey Anthony. Her case was even worse, far worse and she was set free. This kind of thing happens, there are guilty people on the streets and innocent people in prison, but it happens.
 

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He obviously thinks hes innocent you don't shoot someone and call the cops after unless you really thought you were in the right doing it. The story is just getting all distorted because of media hype.
 

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This is only relevant in one mans world, what more did they need to prove him guilty?? And obviously he was found guilty since he was charge with the murder
You represent everything bad in the system.
Being charged with murder does not, in any way, make you a murderer. That you would judge one even on suspicion is so disgustingly ignorant that I don't even know what to say. So, anyone suspected of terrorism is automatically a terrorist? People who spend a night in jail, are arrested for something or charged with something are automatically criminals? The funny thing about the system is that it doens't know when to stop. A formerly 'criminal' man can't get a proper job, a proper apartment, etcetera. The fact is that the more you suspect a former criminaland the more you close him off from your community, the bigger the chance is that he'll go back to his old ways. Do you know how may people have been forced into a life of crim AGAIN because of people like YOU? How dare you say that Zimmerman is guilty because of a simply charge? This case has already ruined his life, not because of the case itself, but becaus eof the media-coverage. The fact is the Zimmerman will never be able to get a proper job, not to mention a respectable one, again. The man is broken because the mainstream media decided that an african-american boy needed more attention than the hundreds of people who get raped, killed and kidnapped every day. The case, in no way, deserves all the attention and false sympathy it's received.
WHile you're raging over a white man's suspected crime, hundreds of people vanish around you in horrible ways, and they go unnoticed because people like YOU insists that someone should be punished based on attention and suspicion alone.
Know that such an angle of oppinion absolutely disgusts me. You should be ashamed.
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You represent everything bad in the system.
Being charged with murder does not, in any way, make you a murderer. That you would judge one even on suspicion is so disgustingly ignorant that I don't even know what to say. So, anyone suspected of terrorism is automatically a terrorist? People who spend a night in jail, are arrested for something or charged with something are automatically criminals? The funny thing about the system is that it doens't know when to stop. A formerly 'criminal' man can't get a proper job, a proper apartment, etcetera. The fact is that the more you suspect a former criminaland the more you close him off from your community, the bigger the chance is that he'll go back to his old ways. Do you know how may people have been forced into a life of crim AGAIN because of people like YOU? How dare you say that Zimmerman is guilty because of a simply charge? This case has already ruined his life, not because of the case itself, but becaus eof the media-coverage. The fact is the Zimmerman will never be able to get a proper job, not to mention a respectable one, again. The man is broken because the mainstream media decided that an african-american boy needed more attention than the hundreds of people who get raped, killed and kidnapped every day. The case, in no way, deserves all the attention and false sympathy it's received.
WHile you're raging over a white man's suspected crime, hundreds of people vanish around you in horrible ways, and they go unnoticed because people like YOU insists that someone should be punished based on attention and suspicion alone.
Know that such an angle of oppinion absolutely disgusts me. You should be ashamed.
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I read about that case from the picture, those people died in the most horrible imaginable way that no human should ever be subjected to. They tortured that girl for hours on end after making her watch them torture her BF to death. And when I say torture I mean an unimaginable level of torture.
 

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Ok, we all mostly know about the case and thought justice was made once Zimmerman was put behind bars. However, the system let him free after making bond.

Now, how the fck can this happen??????
He's out on bail but he still has to go to trial so he's not "free."
Idk wft a derp is, but that is ridiculous. At this point the streets are gonna have to handle this situation
99% of the people on the streets only know what the media told them. He's not guilty yet. The worst possible thing he did was commit manslaughter so the state is pursuing one step higher (2nd degree murder) in the hope that the jury will be more willing to convict on a reduced charge of manslaughter.

You and a bunch of other people want to go out and kill this man based off of some sketchy facts and twisted tales produced by the media. You won't accept that kid is capable of beating a man to the point he feels that his life is threatened. None of us know what actually happened so before you make the decision to ruin some guy's life, you should wait until ALL of the facts have been presented in court.

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The media:
The media is one of, if not the most, corruptest tool out there. People who rely on the media for information need help. The way they distort information. The way they tell you half the story. The way they can keep secrets locked up from the outside world for decades...

Personally, I don't feel ABSOLUTELY outraged that Zimmerman was released. But I don't condone what he did either. This is because I, like most of us here, don't know the full story/proper details. What you hear and read could just be and probably is half of it. It's all over the place; it's like a puzzle with missing pieces.

Zero-Kelvin's post was very much appreciated. Don't rely on the media for the truth. It may be difficult to personally waltz up to Zimmerman and ask him what really happened, but it doesn't mean just because Channel 9 said Zimmerman is a cold-blooded murder, that that is the truth.
 

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The Zimmerman case caused an uproar because he wasn't charged when it happened, & it soon became a race issue. Saying if it was reversed, if Zimmerman was black & the white was white, he would be arrested & charged on the spot.

Then somebody, I don't remember who, made a statement about the kid wearing a hoodie at night & supposedly in warm weather. About how it made him look suspicious & whatnot. All across the nation, there were church services & walks with people wearing hoodies; to go against the statement that wearing a hoodie shouldn't be the reason to be shot or suspicious.


Now, the story with Zimmerman. He called the police, he was told not to follow him, he shouldn't have followed him or had any reason to do so. He claims self-defense? Well, he put himself in that position by following him. If you're going to take matter into your hands, expect the consequences. He said the kid attacked him. Ok, perhaps the kid felt threatened & to defend himself, he had to make the first move. What would you do if being followed? Most would say run away, but chances are others would confront them.

That's my opinion, however. Even if the kid attacked him first, he still had no reason to pull the trigger. There is no self defense because Zimmerman made the first move by following him.

People get released on bail all the time. He will have his trial, perhaps not a fair one thanks to the media, but he will always have a target on his back -- in the streets or in prison.
 

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The Zimmerman case caused an uproar because he wasn't charged when it happened, & it soon became a race issue. Saying if it was reversed, if Zimmerman was black & the white was white, he would be arrested & charged on the spot.

Then somebody, I don't remember who, made a statement about the kid wearing a hoodie at night & supposedly in warm weather. About how it made him look suspicious & whatnot. All across the nation, there were church services & walks with people wearing hoodies; to go against the statement that wearing a hoodie shouldn't be the reason to be shot or suspicious.


Now, the story with Zimmerman. He called the police, he was told not to follow him, he shouldn't have followed him or had any reason to do so. He claims self-defense? Well, he put himself in that position by following him. If you're going to take matter into your hands, expect the consequences. He said the kid attacked him. Ok, perhaps the kid felt threatened & to defend himself, he had to make the first move. What would you do if being followed? Most would say run away, but chances are others would confront them.

That's my opinion, however. Even if the kid attacked him first, he still had no reason to pull the trigger. There is no self defense because Zimmerman made the first move by following him.

People get released on bail all the time. He will have his trial, perhaps not a fair one thanks to the media, but he will always have a target on his back -- in the streets or in prison.
i agree with everything
 

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Oh I heard about this story...
..happens about 100 times a day in America. This one isn't as special as any other one.

Stupid media.
 

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The Zimmerman case caused an uproar because he wasn't charged when it happened, & it soon became a race issue. Saying if it was reversed, if Zimmerman was black & the white was white, he would be arrested & charged on the spot.

Then somebody, I don't remember who, made a statement about the kid wearing a hoodie at night & supposedly in warm weather. About how it made him look suspicious & whatnot. All across the nation, there were church services & walks with people wearing hoodies; to go against the statement that wearing a hoodie shouldn't be the reason to be shot or suspicious.


Now, the story with Zimmerman. He called the police, he was told not to follow him, he shouldn't have followed him or had any reason to do so. He claims self-defense? Well, he put himself in that position by following him. If you're going to take matter into your hands, expect the consequences. He said the kid attacked him. Ok, perhaps the kid felt threatened & to defend himself, he had to make the first move. What would you do if being followed? Most would say run away, but chances are others would confront them.

That's my opinion, however. Even if the kid attacked him first, he still had no reason to pull the trigger. There is no self defense because Zimmerman made the first move by following him.

People get released on bail all the time. He will have his trial, perhaps not a fair one thanks to the media, but he will always have a target on his back -- in the streets or in prison.
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we've found this thread's douchebag, give him a pat on the shoulder.
I have highlighted points that I consider key-points in your post. Most of the highlighted statements are a part of a whole, so please read the entire thing before argumenting based on what I've highlighted. There, I said it, so don't come yelling about me taking your arguments out of context.

First of all, your entire first paragraph about the case being a racial issue is moot point. All the 'evidence' that points to the Zimmerman case being racially motivated was based on Zimmermans call to the Stanford Police Department where he reported Martin's 'suspicious activity'. Whether or not Martin was actually 'up to no goo' is irrelevant. What matters is that the case has nothing to do with Martin being black.

Read that and take a look at the actual Police reports instead of linking me to CNN or BBC, as I have a hunch that you'll do.
And the fact that the case has been blown completely out of proportion has nothing to do with Zimmerman not being arrested immediately. Really, what really should interest people is how the media has completely destroyed the case, just as they have Zimmerman himself.

Honestly, I actually laughed when I heard about those 'hoodie-demonstrations'. The fact is that hoodies are intimidating, simple as that. Some clothing is simply more 'intimidating' and 'threatening' than other clothing. Really, most people would rather stand beside a man wearing a suit than they would a man wearing a black trench-coat and fingerless gloves. It is ridiculous, yes, but it's simply how it is. I'd be scared shitless if a man, face obscured by a black hoodie, came walking towards me with his hands in his pockets. The guy might as well be harmless, but his clothing gives an intimidating impression. It's called being superficial, by the way. I'm sure Martin was a nice guy, but Zimmerman didn't know Martin and based his judgement on his apparent behavior and clothing. 'He looks suspicious' is not a racial slur, not is it an uncommon expression.

For the last time; Zimmerman was hardly even ADVICED not to follow Martin, the dispatchers exact words were; "We don't need you to do that." O_O Can you guess who turned that advice into a direct order? The media! Good guess. Oh, by the way, a dispatcher has no authority to issue any kind of orders, so even if the dispatcher had ordered Zimmerman not to follow Martin, it would've been moot point, especially in court.
I find it funny how you continously state that Zimmerman should 'accept (your exact wording was; 'except', but I think and hope that you worded it like that by mistake) the consequences of his actions'. Well, if you insist on going down that sort of path, shouldn't Martin accept the consequences of wearing a hoodie, too? Shouldn't everyone just accept whatever punishment, however unfair it is, others give to them? You're being ridiculous. Stop being ridiculous.
Whoop-di-doo! It's not self-defence if you have a gun, hurr durr.
I will not comment on the law that allows citizens to buy and use guns, simply because it is not the topic of this thread.
I'm glad that you have realized thar Martin did, indeed, strike first. However, I fail to see any logical reason for why MARTIN's attack is completely justifiable, while Zimmerman's is not. There is something called panic, you know, most people panic when someone sits on top of them, restraining them while smashing their head against the pavement.
"Ok, perhaps the kid felt threatened & to defend himself, he had to make the first move. What would you do if being followed? Most would say run away, but chances are others would confront them." This is probably the single most stupid thing I've ever heard. Felt threatened? First move? Chances are? What. The. Hell. How can you not be ashamed of blatantly stating that it's okay to turn around and smash your followers head in? If Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, this case would've been about a black guy beating up his white 'stalker', that would've been more simple, wouldn't it? But because Zimmerman had a gun, panicked and fired it, you justify this unprovoked act of violence? What in the world!?

Your last two paragraphs really made me loose it. You are, apparently, aware that this case has ruined Zimmermans life forever. You're also aware that it doens't matter whether or not he's punished, because this case will always follow him. You're very aware that he'll receive threats, perhaps someone will even attempt to kill him. You're aware of all of this... And you rejoice in it? With all due respect, mr. Anonymous, your oppinions sicken me to the very core of my being.

I hope this cleared some stuff
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You can't deny that the actions of Zimmerman ultimately led to Martin's death. And whether or not the dispatcher forcefully told him, or simply suggested him not to follow Martin doesn't matter. If a dispatcher tells you they don't need you to do something, don't do it. We have policemen for a reason, let them do their jobs. Zimmerman didn't think things through. He should have thought about what he was doing. He knew he had a gun on him, and he thought Martin was suspicious. What did he think would come from confronting a suspicious looking person? An obvious outcome would be a physical confrontation. And if you have a gun on you, knowingly going into a confrontation like that is reckless. He was ignorant of the situation and started a chain of events that should have never happened.

As for Martin attacking first, perhaps he shouldn't have. We also aren't clear on what exactly led up to the first blow so we can't say definitively who was justified in what. But if some stranger is following you, it would certainly be a cause of concern. Martin felt the need to defend himself too. Why is that aspect of self defense ignored? Why should he have to wait until he's hit before defending himself? What if that first hit rendered him incapable of defending himself? Did he make the wrong decision? Probably. Does that mean the shooting was justified? Absolutely not.

Its true this case has been blown way out of proportion and has been misrepresented on many occasions in the media. But that doesn't mean Zimmerman is innocent. I'm not an expert on law in any way, so I have no idea whether or not he'll be convicted. None of us know all the facts, and things will be clarified during the trial. Based on the law and what's provable he may or may not be convicted. And based on the laws, the shooting may actually be justified. However, what I do know is that Zimmerman's actions led to the death of Martin. It wasn't what he wanted, it wasn't what he was expecting. But that is what happened.
 
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