[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[kaddie3]

Re: tobi is obito

He died a true hero let it go lol

Could you stop harassing people in my thread? Thanks.

 

[Stampy]

Re: tobi is obito

Lol just saying but Tendo Pain didn't pretend he actually stabbed Hinata and killed her.

He stabbed her, she didn't actually died like Kakashi did. The medical unit got to her and stabbilized her critical condition.

 

[Tendo Pain]

Re: tobi is obito

Could you stop harassing people in my thread? Thanks.

Can you get banned already?

 

[dark mhd]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

one of those two:
1 uchiha obito
2 uchiha izuna

 

[Tendo Pain]

Re: tobi is obito

He stabbed her, she didn't actually died like Kakashi did. The medical unit got to her and stabbilized her critical condition.

Oh yeah i just looked at the episode sorry you were right. But had the battle continued where they were she would have died in the rampage of two beasts.

 

[quick123]

Re: tobi is obito

Kakashi died from exhausting his chakra didn't he?

 

[Stampy]

Re: tobi is obito

That's true the fact that madara edo is young means that he died young. I really don't understand why everyone throws away the theory that tobi is obito when this story is fictional and so many factor comes into play. Obito's parents were never which is because either they're not important or they're very important if Obito just happens to be the grandson of the great Madara Uchicha who knows what he's capable of. And to explain the age of tobi or obito the ms tech that warps him to another dimension it's quite possible that he aged in there because for all we know weeks in the other dimesion could be days in the regular one. And since the gaint rock didn't instantly kill obito it had to be blocked by something so it's possible that the rock only did minimal damage to him because that was a big F**ing rock, it should have killed him instantly.. and also to explain why his face looks old it could be the results of healing a crushed face with medical ninjustu who knows

Very true! People always say in a anti-Obito argument that his right side including his face got crushed completely... if that was the case I'd like to know how he was still able to talk afterwards... But then he got completely crushed by the rock slide. We don't see him die for sure which is why I refrain from trashing and flaming people with that theory, but I am highly against it

He died a true hero let it go lol

Let him make theories and support it, after all it is his right

Could you stop harassing people in my thread? Thanks.

You are one to talk...

 

[Stampy]

Re: tobi is obito

Kakashi died from exhausting his chakra didn't he?

He did. He died a true hero

 

[Tendo Pain]

Re: tobi is obito

Very true! People always say in a anti-Obito argument that his right side including his face got crushed completely... if that was the case I'd like to know how he was still able to talk afterwards... But then he got completely crushed by the rock slide. We don't see him die for sure which is why I refrain from trashing and flaming people with that theory, but I am highly against it



Let him make theories and support it, after all it is his right



You are one to talk...

I just don't think he would turn bad. Kakashi refers to him as similar to Naruto in many of the movies. So i can't think that someone that good would turn bad.

 

[Feenex]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

This my first post, so I'd like to take the time to say "Hello, Narutobase."

Now that that's out of the way, my current theory(s) are as follows:

1) I'd consider Tobimara to be a considerable possibility as to the "Man Behind the Mask." Who is he exactly? Well, the Second Hokage. It's "legend" that he assisted his brother in fighting Uchiha Madara in the Valley of the End. It's entirely possible for him to have turned his back on his brother in one way or another and for him to have also gained Uchiha's eyes in the process, all in one single swoop. The name "Tobi" is also within his name, which Zetsu has called him many times before, and was his alias before he considered himself Madara. Also, the fact that his eyes always remained in Sharingan form gives evidence that they are not his. It could have also been possible that he had gained the Sharingan before his battle along side his brother and after they defeated Madara, Tobimara killed his brother while he was weakened. This would have given him access to the MS. Unfortunetly,it doesn't do much in the case of the EMS, but different scenarios could have unfolded under one general plan that ended in the gaining of EMS. His age would support how knowledgeable "Tobi" is so far in the manga and the connection he has to many different characters.

2) Madara's younger brother, Izuna. This one is pretty straight forward and doesn't require too much out of the box thinking. But possible none the less.

3) It "is" madara, but not his physical body. More or less the physical embodiment of his chakra. Making him not yet "complete," as he stated he wasn't often in the manga.

4) A completely new character in whom's story will unfold as the manga goes on. This is the least likely, as Kishi still has many characters he hasn't fully developed yet which begs the question, "Why another?" Which supports the first 2 theories.. them being 2 people of the manga in which their backstory is vague and is sure to unfold by the close of the manga.

 

[Tendo Pain]

Re: tobi is obito

He did. He died a true hero

In my opinion he should have just let Chouji get owned lol Kakashi is way more important.

 

[BoNaFiDeChAmPlOo]

Re: Who is the man behind the mask???

The man behind the mask is still madara, he used a kind of jutsu b4 he died that brought him back, thats why he said he is just a mare shell of his former self. Kabuto just brought back the full flaged madara making two madaras. if not so how can u explain all the infor he knows, the dress, madara weapon and to even deceive itachi

I agree it was said that he obtained the 1st Hokages cells allowing him to regenerate, so he probably did die but was able to pull off the jutsu to recover from the dead thus making him somewhat of a undead but probably a soulless one.

 

[Horimoto]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Its def. NO uchiha. And it IS a person called Nagato! Do everybody forgets what the FIRST words of Madara were?

"finally...That little brat Nagato"

He expects a person with the rinnengan to ressurect him! Dont forget this! All the theories about Izuna, or even Obito doesnt make sense because of THIS sentence!
madara KNOWS a person Nagato with the rinnengan.

So there are 2 possibilities:
1) Madara was killed by the first and the person he calls "Nagato" is another character, TOBI! This person COULD be a strong relative of the so6p.

2) Madara were NOT killed by the first, and lived up to the day, our Nagato was born.
problem with that: madara is ressurected and he def. doesnt look like over 100 years old, but more than around the age, where he fought against the first.

3) Tobi is able to control the rinnengan instantly! And even without any chakra connectors! So my guess is, he already used the rinnengan before! Thats why he said: he gave Nagato the eyes!

Combining everything leads to:

Tobi = a person with the rinnengan, who stole the eyes of madara when he was killed by the first. But AFTER the death of madara.
Thats why he says: the power of the uchiha.. my power... madara uchihas power.
Thats why he always is talking in 3rd person of himself, because he owns the eyes of madara, he feels like beeing madara.
But: he had the rinnengan before getting madaras eyes.
So who is the man behind the mask:

a new character, but NOT that new.

What about the others:

Izuna is def. dead... furthermore, he was as tall as madara, and Tobi is kind of weak and small.

Obito? Come on... Tobi attacked the HLeaf, and was as tall as he is now... how old was Obito back then? 13? 14?

kagami? An unknown character. I dont think that kishi would bring such a mess...

The most important fact is:

Madara knows a person called NAGATO!
Madara expects a person called NAGATO to bring him back
Madara is surprised that Edo brought him back
-> he expects Nagato to ressurect him with the Rinnengan!!!

---> Nagato owns the Rinnengan

 

[Stampy]

Re: tobi is obito

In my opinion he should have just let Chouji get owned lol Kakashi is way more important.

xd Vital information>Kakashi>Chouji
Love this though !!!

 

[Anduril]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

This my first post, so I'd like to take the time to say "Hello, Narutobase."

Now that that's out of the way, my current theory(s) are as follows:

1) I'd consider Tobimara to be a considerable possibility as to the "Man Behind the Mask." Who is he exactly? Well, the Second Hokage. It's "legend" that he assisted his brother in fighting Uchiha Madara in the Valley of the End. It's entirely possible for him to have turned his back on his brother in one way or another and for him to have also gained Uchiha's eyes in the process, all in one single swoop. The name "Tobi" is also within his name, which Zetsu has called him many times before, and was his alias before he considered himself Madara. Also, the fact that his eyes always remained in Sharingan form gives evidence that they are not his. It could have also been possible that he had gained the Sharingan before his battle along side his brother and after they defeated Madara, Tobimara killed his brother while he was weakened. This would have given him access to the MS. Unfortunetly,it doesn't do much in the case of the EMS, but different scenarios could have unfolded under one general plan that ended in the gaining of EMS. His age would support how knowledgeable "Tobi" is so far in the manga and the connection he has to many different characters.

2) Madara's younger brother, Izuna. This one is pretty straight forward and doesn't require too much out of the box thinking. But possible none the less.

3) It "is" madara, but not his physical body. More or less the physical embodiment of his chakra. Making him not yet "complete," as he stated he wasn't often in the manga.

4) A completely new character in whom's story will unfold as the manga goes on. This is the least likely, as Kishi still has many characters he hasn't fully developed yet which begs the question, "Why another?" Which supports the first 2 theories.. them being 2 people of the manga in which their backstory is vague and is sure to unfold by the close of the manga.

Well welcome to the base and about your first theory i will say the same thing as before...

Tobirama was also sometime back summoned using IWR by orochimaru meaning he had already transpired to the soul state since IWR resurrects your dead soul so its highly unlikely...

 

[Tendo Pain]

Re: tobi is obito

xd Vital information>Kakashi>Chouji
Love this though !!!

Yeah Kakashi should have just played dead and let Chouji die. Lol i love how Guys team was just chilling outside the village the whole attack. Well not outside but nearby.

 

[NarutOnly]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

There really is no hard evidence that Obito is Tobi though, he has no motive and is dead, his beliefs directly go against what Tobi is doing now, choosing to believe Obito is Tobi is kind of sad with how little evidence there is at all toward that subject.

oh wait HIS LEFT EYE WHERE THE ONE HOLE IN HIS MASK IS LOL?

except in his battle with Konan IT SHOWS BOTH EYES, if you are going to post your opinion post your logic with it please.

no, the right eye.

transplant of eye is possible.

btw, sharingan of obito and tobi where the only have unique ability of space/time nin.

 

[Feenex]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Well welcome to the base and about your first theory i will say the same thing as before...

Tobirama was also sometime back summoned using IWR by orochimaru meaning he had already transpired to the soul state since IWR resurrects your dead soul so its highly unlikely...

That's true, that had skipped my memory. So I guess it throws that out the window.

 

[Rapture]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

no, the right eye.

transplant of eye is possible.

btw, sharingan of obito and tobi where the only have unique ability of space/time nin.

That is completely untrue, it never once states or is proven that his Space-Time ninjutsu is ocular based, and technically in the series Kakashi is the only known ninja with Ocular Space-Time ninjutsu directly through his MS. Yes it shows his dimensional transfers happening through the hole in his mask but that's hardly enough to say the transfers are directly ocular, if so it would happen in both eyes and would have a dual effect, or so I could say using the same logic as you anyway.

Not only that but look at the time frame of everything, if Obito was indeed Tobi, how would he have developed enough resources, ie personal skill and connections to the hidden leaf and enough knowledge of how events would be played out, in the time of his "death" to the first point of the attack of on the Hidden Leaf using the 9-tailed fox, at which time Kakashi shown with the other jounin is roughly 18-24 in age some where, probably 4-5 years after Obito's "death" and Obito is going to be around the same age as Kakashi. You are telling me he surpasses Kakashi and comes up with this grand plan ivolving nation wide tailed beasts and resurrected the Juubi all starting with the attack on the Hidden Leaf.

I'm waiting for you to say something semi intelligent, this is getting pretty boring, your logic is so faulted, how do you even wake up in the morning.

 

[EmperorIssun]

Re: Stop Playing the Tobi Guessing Game

Yes it is. Tobi's just a name Madara made up while he was in the Akatsuki. Madara used the name "Tobi" to avoid being discovered that he's alive. But then he did reveal that he's Madara.

I think Madara is just an alias not Tobi. I think he just used the name Madara to manipulate people. But iunno