Obito was not scared of Itachi

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Well, I'm not basing my story based on plot, I was basing it on the descriptions we were given. Totsuka blade is said to be able to cut anything. And anything it cuts, it seals. Based on that knowledge, the blade is able to seal away the gedo. Your questioning of it is hypothetical and plot based. I am using reason.

For Tobi to warp it out, he has to become tangible. All that is necessary for Itachi to do is to simultaneously attack Tobi and use the Totsuka blade on the gedo.

The gedo can't be able to just drain souls constantly or whenever it wants, or else thats what would have happened to the shinobi army. My theory actually is that the gedo cannot do this unless being controlled directly by the rinnegan. I think it is just a rinnegan user using the technique through the gedo while he is pierced with the chakra receivers, just like a path of pain. And I don't think Tobi knows how to/can use the rinnegan fully yet. He hasn't used a single move thus far with it, so that's a valid assumption.

As for the shockwave, Itachi can dissapate into crows to avoid physical damage. And again, pysical attacks won't work. If the gedo gets too close he will be in a totsuka blade range, especially if he is coming towards itachi. There is nothing to say that a certain part of the body must be cut for the sealing to work, so slicing the gedo's arm should be enough.

Soo...... yea.

all your points can only happen if gedo is just standing right infront of itachi without doing anything.

lol you can't quite imagine the huge difference between a tiny winy itachi vs the huge gedo. I don't want to be bothered explaining further,so just a few points:

tobi can just summon gedo on the ground where itachi is standing and game over.
tobi can summon gedo far out of reach of itachi's susanoo and hit itachi with bijuu dama.
tobi can also use gedo as a diversion while itachi is busy and appear at the back of itachi and finish him off with kamui.


A bit out of topic but isn't the fact that Itachi had enough intel on the organization enough? He could have revealed all this information to anyone. He doesn't need to completely obliterate them alone don't get me wrong.
I don't see how escaping is a problem since we known Orochimaru did it.

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enough intel? lol itachi have no clue about moon's eye plan. itachi doesnt even know tobi is obito, he was fooled believing that it was madara.

he was just like any other akatsuki member, a tool used by tobi to achieve their goals.
 
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all your points can only happen if gedo is just standing right infront of itachi without doing anything.

lol you can't quite imagine the huge difference between a tiny winy itachi vs the huge gedo. I don't want to be bothered explaining further,so just a few points:

tobi can just summon gedo on the ground where itachi is standing and game over.
tobi can summon gedo far out of reach of itachi's susanoo and hit itachi with bijuu dama.
tobi can also use gedo as a diversion while itachi is busy and appear at the back of itachi and finish him off with kamui.

As I already said, Tobi can beat Itachi. That was never the question. That is to your third point. Gedo cant use bijuu dama. Again this is talking about Tobi from before Itachi died. This is not the ten tails. Gedo itself has never used bijuu dama. If the bijuu is summoned on the ground directly where itachi is standing, he can body flick, or if you want to put that off limits he can also dissipate into crows on command. Placement means nothing in this fight as itachi can move himself around in an invulnerable state (as far as we know invulnerable).

I understand that Gedo is extremely large, much much larger than itachi and his susanoo. But just because I know this does not mean that I should know that itachi loses. A fight is not always determined by size alone. All itachi needs to do is evade/block the attacks of the gedo and get in close enough to ue the totsuka blade, or he needs to wait for the gedo to make a physical attack and use the totsuka blade as a counter attack. Sure, even without the gedo tobi can beat Itachi. But Itachi can beat the gedo.
 

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I dont think he was either
 

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LOL to people saying itachi had more battle experience and inteligence than obito, clearly you guys havent been reading the manga. Obito was in no way shape or form afraid of itachi because of the reason that he cant do anything to him. Also obito knows everything about itachis abilities while itachi didnt even know about kamui and considering it would only take 1 second to warp him away i think its safe to say Itachi wouldnt even see obito comming
 
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In no way was Obito scared of Itachi and here's the biggest reason.

Obito had akatsuki under his control and if he so chose, he could have commanded them to eliminate Itachi for him if he posed a threat. And there's no way Itachi could solo Akatsuki.

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It's true that Itachi can't solo the Akatsuki but a lot of the akatsuki members had great respect for Itachi including Nagato. As much as Deidara hated Itachi he had respect for Itachi and Sasori also has a good heart and smart mind, he wouldn't follow orders blindly. Kisame would probably stand on Itachi's side and at that time tobi didn't have the rinnegan yet.
 

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In no way was Obito scared of Itachi and here's the biggest reason.

Obito had akatsuki under his control and if he so chose, he could have commanded them to eliminate Itachi for him if he posed a threat. And there's no way Itachi could solo Akatsuki.

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It's true that Itachi can't solo the Akatsuki but a lot of the akatsuki members had great respect for Itachi including Nagato. As much as Deidara hated Itachi he had respect for Itachi and Sasori also has a good heart and smart mind, he wouldn't follow orders blindly. Kisame would probably stand on Itachi's side and at that time tobi didn't have the rinnegan yet.

Kisame used to kill his comrades without hesitation because that was his order. Obito promised him the truth and release him from a world of lies, which is why kisame joined him and he also killed himself to safeguard akatsuki information.

Sasori had a hobby of creating human puppets out of powerful fighters.....Itachi is a powerful fighter

they wouldn't hesitate to take Itachi down....especially if the leader told the truth about him being a double agent
 

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LOL to people saying itachi had more battle experience and inteligence than obito, clearly you guys havent been reading the manga. Obito was in no way shape or form afraid of itachi because of the reason that he cant do anything to him. Also obito knows everything about itachis abilities while itachi didnt even know about kamui and considering it would only take 1 second to warp him away i think its safe to say Itachi wouldnt even see obito comming

I agrees with the first half of your statements. I'm not sure however if Obito knew about the totsuka blade and yata mirror. And as long as itachi has that second to notice him right as he materializes near him I think that both the sharingan and Itachi's natural senses well allow him to react. Whether or not any reaction he had would help, that is a different story, but he'd probably see it coming.
 

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Idk some of the posts I am reading here are ridiculously stupid. How on earth was Itachi going2 defeat Obito?? Obito seems to know a counter for every jutsu. Take his battle with Konan for example and the time when Sasuke's Amaterasu activated and attacked him. Everything that Itachi knows, Obito knows better. Obito definitely has mooore experience than Itachi. Being trained by Madara himself will also expose him to a whole lot of kinjutsu. Obito must have abilities comparable to Madara especially after being taught by him so Madara was not worried and was fully confident about using him in his plan. For someone like Nagato to be manipulated by Obito?? fellas.. that is off the charts.. Obito must be that dangerous for Nagato to respect him. Obito controlled Kurama with his Sharingan at a young age. Lets see Itachi try that not to mention the ridiculous amount of chakra required to summon the Kyuubi. If Itachi will defeat Obito, someone please tell me.. With WHAT jutsu and by WHAT means??? I am waiting....
 

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i think you have a point there obito want scared of itachi just more cautious and wary of him. after itachi was smart.
 

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I agrees with the first half of your statements. I'm not sure however if Obito knew about the totsuka blade and yata mirror. And as long as itachi has that second to notice him right as he materializes near him I think that both the sharingan and Itachi's natural senses well allow him to react. Whether or not any reaction he had would help, that is a different story, but he'd probably see it coming.

I believe he did know about it because zetsu knew about it and since zetsu=madara then its safe to assume obito knows as well
 

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some how he was.. b cos if itachi knew his secret he will have killed him
 

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Idk some of the posts I am reading here are ridiculously stupid. How on earth was Itachi going2 defeat Obito?? Obito seems to know a counter for every jutsu. Take his battle with Konan for example and the time when Sasuke's Amaterasu activated and attacked him. Everything that Itachi knows, Obito knows better. Obito definitely has mooore experience than Itachi. Being trained by Madara himself will also expose him to a whole lot of kinjutsu. Obito must have abilities comparable to Madara especially after being taught by him so Madara was not worried and was fully confident about using him in his plan. For someone like Nagato to be manipulated by Obito?? fellas.. that is off the charts.. Obito must be that dangerous for Nagato to respect him. Obito controlled Kurama with his Sharingan at a young age. Lets see Itachi try that not to mention the ridiculous amount of chakra required to summon the Kyuubi. If Itachi will defeat Obito, someone please tell me.. With WHAT jutsu and by WHAT means??? I am waiting....

Itachi can make Kage Bunshins that can explode (so he will basicly put up a same battle strategy like Konan, but even better because Itachi is smarter than Konan). Itachi can use Izanami to counter Izanagi, hell if Konan was able to make Obito use Izanagi, Itachi will obviously make him use Izanagi aswell. Everyone who encountered Obito found the basics of how his Kamui works, someone like Itachi will obviously find a weak spot in Kamui, stop overrating Obito because of his shitty Kamui lol, Itachi outbrains him. Obito said it himself ''If i didn't keep a few secrets i would have been dead now'' he basicly stated that if Itachi knew about Kamui he would have been killed, because he knew that Itachi would have been smart enough to find a weak spot in Kamui.

Obito was aware of Itachi and not the other way around, a 13 year old Itachi solo'd a sanin without hesitation, unlike Kakashi who shitted his pants, why would Itachi be afraid of Obito lol.

Itachi outbrains Obito, fan me.
 

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Itachi can make Kage Bunshins that can explode (so he will basicly put up a same battle strategy like Konan, but even better because Itachi is smarter than Konan). Itachi can use Izanami to counter Izanagi, hell if Konan was able to make Obito use Izanagi, Itachi will obviously make him use Izanagi aswell. Everyone who encountered Obito found the basics of how his Kamui works, someone like Itachi will obviously find a weak spot in Kamui, stop overrating Obito because of his shitty Kamui lol, Itachi outbrains him. Obito said it himself ''If i didn't keep a few secrets i would have been dead now'' he basicly stated that if Itachi knew about Kamui he would have been killed, because he knew that Itachi would have been smart enough to find a weak spot in Kamui.

Obito was aware of Itachi and not the other way around, a 13 year old Itachi solo'd a sanin without hesitation, unlike Kakashi who shitted his pants, why would Itachi be afraid of Obito lol.

Itachi outbrains Obito, fan me.

You sir make fans of Itachi look like idiots.

Itachi could probably make 20 crow based kage bunshin at maximum. He has extremely little chakra, and even kakashi, who by comparison had more chakra, took a quarter of his chakra to make a single shadow clone that used 2 jutsu. Itachi doesn't have the endurance (or the resources for that matter) to create 6 minutes of constantly exploding shadow clones. Konan had stored several thousand explosives over acres of land, which had been prepped far far far in advance. Itachi simply doesn't have enough baku to accomplish that.

Also, you mis understand what it means for izanami to counter izanagi. Really all it does is force izanagi users to accept reality and realize they can't change it just for their own self interests. It's not like Obito does izanagi but itachi counters it with izanami and he cant use it. Itachi would have to touch Obito twice in the same exact manner for the jutsu to work, and Obito has the kamui.

You can't just say that Itachi will counter kamui with Smart no Jutsu, because that makes you a dumb fanboy who nobody wants to argue with. Thus far we have only seen one way to hit Obito, and kakashi's help is required for that. Otherwise, no matter what the situation is, Obito prefers to give up his goals momentarily and become intangible to avoid being hit at all costs. And unless Itachi could follow him into this dimension, which he cant, there is nothing he can do about it. The only way that Itachi could catch Obito is with tsukyomi (Possibility) and, depending on when this fight between them would occur, kotoamatsukami.

A sanin and Madara Uchiha are 2 different people. Starting with the fact that Ocular genjutsu doesn't work on sharingan users (except tsukyomi and kotoamatskami, but tsukyomi can be broken by regular sharingan) and all genjutsu is more able to be seen through, so its a completely different fight just at that.

My conclusion is that neither Itachi nor Obito have the capacity to feel fear anymore, thus making all on topic arguments here invalid.

Hmph!
 

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I believe he did know about it because zetsu knew about it and since zetsu=madara then its safe to assume obito knows as well

Go look back at chapter 392. Zetsu didn't know that Itachi had the weapons until that point. And of course the context of the fight is sometime prior to this. Obito might know of the weapons, but not that itachi has them.
 
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