Obito was not scared of Itachi

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Or he could be honoring their agreement because he's a man of his word?

Getting Sasuke and attacking Konoha isn't priority. He could've attacked Konoha again after Minato died anyways, but he didn't.

His priority is Infinite Tsukuyomi, and Sasuke is just a distraction for his "amusement" as he already stated.

but lets face it, itachi being there was a huge problem for obito , eventually itachi would've of protected konoha !
 

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Or he could be honoring their agreement because he's a man of his word?

Getting Sasuke and attacking Konoha isn't priority. He could've attacked Konoha again after Minato died anyways, but he didn't.

His priority is Infinite Tsukuyomi, and Sasuke is just a distraction for his "amusement" as he already stated.

if he was a man of his word he would of honored the agreement even after Itachi died... he was afraid of crossing itachi... you don't say "he's out of my way" if your were honoring a deal with him because of your word... you say that when you have to honor the deal out of fear of the repercussions if you were to break it..
 

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That doesn't mean Obito would use Izanagi or that Itachi would even be able to pull off Izanami. He was only able to pull it off against Kabuto because he was an edo and regenerated after he got fatally wounded. It's a lot harder to do it when he's alive, especially against Obito,

Obito was taught the Uchiha Kinjutsu, meaning Izanagi, Izanami, and everything else. Izanami isn't a secret tech, the Uchiha clan know the tech since it was specifically made to counter Izanagi as punishment. Where do you think Itachi learned Izanami in the first place?

Not to mention Obito would most likely know how to get out of it.

Izanami isn't a 1 hit win.

Madara didnt know the Izanami, izuna did, I think, im not really sure because alot of the story line doesnt make sense, for example it says the inzanami was made to punish those who misuse the inzanagi? If only izuna and madara ever had ms, then why would they be punishing each other? I would say there were people before him who used it but on the wiki it says that they are the first to unlock the ms. I guess people had it after them but then you would think that those who had it would be mentioned at some point, or would have been powerful ninja, but none are ever mentioned. True it harder to make physical contact but obito has to touch when he was this age to make sure he gets sucked in, or atleast thats what he usually does when the opponent is still alive, in this moment he also looks directly at his opponent, easy inzanagi capture, and its not that much harder for itachi, itachi is of course exhausted from lots of use of ms, but in the two main times he uses it he shows that even in a weaker state he can pull it of several times. He uses susanoo to block a powerful attack and uses Amaterasu in a sickened state, and uses a genjutsu against another genjutsu user. When he came to konoha he uses Amaterasu and tsukuyomi twice. If his main plan was Izanami, obito couldn't suck him in and therefor obito would have to use ninjutsu, itachi beats him in taijutsu, and maybe ninjutsu. Plus if we are doing before death itachi he still has his crow, which is basically a mobile version of MS shuishi with only genjutsu.
 

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but lets face it, itachi being there was a huge problem for obito , eventually itachi would've of protected konoha !

and how was he a huge problem? He was working for akatsuki, helping capture bijuu. The only thing was the pact between them that was in the way. The only threat Itachi might have been was to reveal akatsuki plans to Danzo. He has no way of proving Obito wasn't Madara. No one really knew what he looked like except for Onoki.

If Itachi was going to protect Konoha from Obito, then he would've done so instead of sacrificing his life for Sasuke.
 
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celarian;9678524[B said:
]Madara didnt know the Izanami, izuna did[/B], I think, im not really sure because alot of the story line doesnt make sense, for example it says the inzanami was made to punish those who misuse the inzanagi? If only izuna and madara ever had ms, then why would they be punishing each other? I would say there were people before him who used it but on the wiki it says that they are the first to unlock the ms. I guess people had it after them but then you would think that those who had it would be mentioned at some point, or would have been powerful ninja, but none are ever mentioned. True it harder to make physical contact but obito has to touch when he was this age to make sure he gets sucked in, or atleast thats what he usually does when the opponent is still alive, in this moment he also looks directly at his opponent, easy inzanagi capture, and its not that much harder for itachi, itachi is of course exhausted from lots of use of ms, but in the two main times he uses it he shows that even in a weaker state he can pull it of several times. He uses susanoo to block a powerful attack and uses Amaterasu in a sickened state, and uses a genjutsu against another genjutsu user. When he came to konoha he uses Amaterasu and tsukuyomi twice. If his main plan was Izanami, obito couldn't suck him in and therefor obito would have to use ninjutsu, itachi beats him in taijutsu, and maybe ninjutsu. Plus if we are doing before death itachi he still has his crow, which is basically a mobile version of MS shuishi with only genjutsu.

For me to respond to every point would be too long.

Izuna gave up his eyes to Madara because Madara was going blind. They never "punished" each other.

You say that like Obito's only power is Kamui. He can control the Gedo Mazou with only sharingan and senju cells, and has mokuton.

He has shown to be a more advanced fire user, and taijutsu user

his genjutsu was strong enough to kill Konon and control Yagura(a jinchuriki)
 

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and how was he a huge problem? He was working for akatsuki, helping capture bijuu. The only thing was the pact between them that was in the way. The only threat Itachi might have been was to reveal akatsuki plans to Danzo. He has no way of proving Obito wasn't Madara. No one really knew what he looked like except for Onoki.

If Itachi was going to protect Konoha from Obito, then he would've done so instead of sacrificing his life for Sasuke.
he wasn't "working" for Akatsuki he was spying on them. keeping an eye on them from the inside.
 

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he wasn't "working" for Akatsuki he was spying on them. keeping an eye on them from the inside.

and when did he leak any info about them? He wasn't helping Danzo.

He was just looking out for Sasuke.
 

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and when did he leak any info about them? He wasn't helping Danzo.

He was just looking out for Sasuke.
he never trusted Danzo and the elders and with the third gone no one else knew the truth about him so there was no one to leak the truth to. And he wasn't really spying in a way of leaking info.. he was gathering info for him self si he could stop them with force if worse came to worse. and itachi cares about the village, he wouldn't of slaughtered his entire clan if he didn't.
 

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he never trusted Danzo and the elders and with the third gone no one else knew the truth about him so there was no one to leak the truth to. And he wasn't really spying in a way of leaking info.. he was gathering info for him self si he could stop them with force if worse came to worse. and itachi cares about the village, he wouldn't of slaughtered his entire clan if he didn't.

We don't know that. If he really was spying on the them so he could stop them, then why didn't he?

Itachi didn't help save Konoha when Orochimaru attacked....and we know that Itachi could have easily overpowered him....
 

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We don't know that. If he really was spying on the them so he could stop them, then why didn't he?

Itachi didn't help save Konoha when Orochimaru attacked....and we know that Itachi could have easily overpowered him....
Worse never came to worse before he died and. The opportunity never presented itself. He was overcome with illness and his time shortened, so he entrusted sasuke with killing Obito. and if he were to have stop orochimaru when he was attacking the leaf he would of blown his cover in akatsuki as well as shown the truth about him to sasuke and the village. something the mustn't happen.
 

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Worse never came to worse before he died and. The opportunity never presented itself. He was overcome with illness and his time shortened, so he entrusted sasuke with killing Obito. and if he were to have stop orochimaru when he was attacking the leaf he would of blown his cover in akatsuki as well as shown the truth about him to sasuke and the village. something the mustn't happen.

the Akatsuki were hunting Orochimaru for his betrayal....

So you believe that with his illness he could have actually done something when the worst scenario approached?

and what exactly could he have done? fight Obito and the rest of the akatsuki?
 

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You obviously didn't read the thread.

Obito had akatsuki under his command which could back him up if Itachi was too much to handle.

Obito didn't want to kill Itachi, he just wanted his services in exchange for their agreement.

I think he did read your thread but just doesnt agree with your opinion like I do
 

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Except Yata mirror is a shield that only protects the front side. It doesn't stop Itachi from drowning in water, like Kisame's water bumble, it doesn't protect Itachi from the sand on the ground like Gaara used on Madara. and it doesn't protect Itachi from Obito teleporting right beside him.

Itachi can't defend himself against all of akatsuki at the same time.

Your such a lame for this comment....I like how you know it takes all of the akatsuki at the same time to beat itachi.

Your such a fail kisame fought with itachi plenty of times and never bested him

And what sand on the ground? Who in akatsuki is a sand user? Did madara have yata mirror?

You change the facts of the manga to try and make yourself sound correct.

Even if itachi has to fight all of them at the same time he's killing at least 2 of them...who will it be?
How will the story change?

Sasuke never finding out the truth and going back to the village to help destroy the akatsuki? Seeing that hearing about his brothers death would only frustrate him further

Meaning he never received amaterasu in the first place seeing that he got it after he beat his brother

Which means he never got a chance to receive ems?

Which means paths of pain have to fight sasuke curse mode and sage mode naruto? Easier fight for naruto no fox mode needed

Which means the other tailed beast aren't collected as the normally would be.

Which means obitos plan is pushed back further because some fanboy believes he would use the akatsuki all at the same time against itachi.

Your logic is so stupid idk which comment of yours to correct first
 

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the Akatsuki were hunting Orochimaru for his betrayal....

So you believe that with his illness he could have actually done something when the worst scenario approached?

and what exactly could he have done? fight Obito and the rest of the akatsuki?
His illness was what prevented him from doing something, that's why he entrusted the future to sasuke.
if if worst came to worst he would of been wiser than to take on the akatsuki head on. he would of found the opportune moment when he could face obito one on one, or at least close to it. it's not like the akatsuki travel in one big group. and he could of easily solo'd against any of the duo's in akatsuki except for maybe pain/konan whom he would still defeat but it would of been a lot harder.
 

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Your such a lame for this comment....I like how you know it takes all of the akatsuki at the same time to beat itachi.

Your such a fail kisame fought with itachi plenty of times and never bested him


And what sand on the ground? Who in akatsuki is a sand user? Did madara have yata mirror?

You change the facts of the manga to try and make yourself sound correct.

Even if itachi has to fight all of them at the same time he's killing at least 2 of them...who will it be?
How will the story change?

Sasuke never finding out the truth and going back to the village to help destroy the akatsuki? Seeing that hearing about his brothers death would only frustrate him further

Meaning he never received amaterasu in the first place seeing that he got it after he beat his brother

Which means he never got a chance to receive ems?

Which means paths of pain have to fight sasuke curse mode and sage mode naruto? Easier fight for naruto no fox mode needed

Which means the other tailed beast aren't collected as the normally would be.

Which means obitos plan is pushed back further because some fanboy believes he would use the akatsuki all at the same time against itachi.

Your logic is so stupid idk which comment of yours to correct first


Half of what you said doesn't make sense....and lol your accusing me of changing manga facts when you said Itachi and fought Kisame plenty of times and Kisame never bested him......wow

I'll just end it right there.

This is why you only have 1 rep bar and I have 6
 

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Half of what you said doesn't make sense....and lol your accusing me of changing manga facts when you said Itachi and fought Kisame plenty of times and Kisame never bested him......wow

I'll just end it right there.

This is why you only have 1 rep bar and I have 6

That's funny because the guy that has one rep bar and a little bit over 300 post makes more sense than you
..the guy who clearly spend majority of his time on here


How many b*tches do you get? What does your instagram look like?Facebook likes on post? Do you even have a job? Are you even educated?

Congratulations to you

And of course it doesn't make sense, that is what your implying by saying obito would kill itachi

It is logical to believe that obito would never be scared of any1

But your dumb ass reasons are what makes no sense

Maybe if you said he could kill sasuke at any moment he chose

Or that he could destroy everything that itachi stood for which would be the village

Not your comments of obito defeating itachi because that would never happen.

Manga facts are what guide the storyline. I may not know everything as you seem to but that's because I have a life. I know enough about the naruto universe and one thing I do know is that itachi solos obito.

You say obito up would use the akatsuki to defeat him

If he uses all of the akatsuki that means we are looking at one eye tobi right?

Which means hed get killed and be forced to use izanagi right?

Which means itachi would be forced to counter with izanami right?

Which means obito would be stuck still while itachi reveals who he really is right?

Which is all he has to do to beat obito
 

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That's funny because the guy that has one rep bar and a little bit over 300 post makes more sense than you
..the guy who clearly spend majority of his time on here


How many b*tches do you get? What does your instagram look like?Facebook likes on post? Do you even have a job? Are you even educated?

Congratulations to you

And of course it doesn't make sense, that is what your implying by saying obito would kill itachi

It is logical to believe that obito would never be scared of any1

But your dumb ass reasons are what makes no sense

Maybe if you said he could kill sasuke at any moment he chose

Or that he could destroy everything that itachi stood for which would be the village

Not your comments of obito defeating itachi because that would never happen.

Manga facts are what guide the storyline. I may not know everything as you seem to but that's because I have a life. I know enough about the naruto universe and one thing I do know is that itachi solos obito.


You say obito up would use the akatsuki to defeat him

If he uses all of the akatsuki that means we are looking at one eye tobi right?

Which means hed get killed and be forced to use izanagi right?

Which means itachi would be forced to counter with izanami right?

Which means obito would be stuck still while itachi reveals who he really is right?

Which is all he has to do to beat obito

So now we're attacking personal lifestyles?

Lol dude, most of my friends and most of the people in college(which is mostly related to art and animation) read Naruto and watch anime, so I do too. It's a hobby. Just like people watch walking dead, sopranos, and all the other tv shows and know them by heart.

My major is animation, which means I study anime and other cartoons to look at the techniques in class.

I'm on winter break from college, so I have the time go on NB which is why I'm so active. I only have 4 classes a week anyways which gives me the time to do most of the things I want to do in my day.

So you're an idiot and a hypocrite.

Itachi has no way of proving Obito isn't Madara since hardly anyone knows what he looks like aside for Onoki.

You have no proof either and you act like Izanami is a sure thing when it isn't; pulling it off is hard, hence why Itachi got stabbed when he tried to do it on Kabuto.....luckily he was an edo and didn't die

Izanami is no secret technique to the Uchiha either....it's just a kinjutsu, meaning forbidden like Izanagi. Obito knows the Uchiha kinjutsu, which means he also knows how to escape it.

And you just said Manga facts and Itachi solos Obito in the same paragraph.....Lol that's not a manga fact, that's your opinion.

and why would Obito be forced into Izanagi by Itachi? Obito has more advanced fire jutsu(except amaterasu which takes time for Itachi to cast), is better at taijutsu(able to take on Guy, Naruto, Bee, and Kakashi with just that), and has mokuton(one of the most feared techs in the narutoverse)

And you think Itachi won't be forced into Izanagi? You think it would be that easy? Lol Obito wouldn't be one of the central villains, along with Madara if he was that weak.
 
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So now we're attacking personal lifestyles?

Lol dude, most of my friends and most of the people in college(which is mostly related to art and animation) read Naruto and watch anime, so I do too. It's a hobby. Just like people watch walking dead, sopranos, and all the other tv shows and know them by heart.

My major is animation, which means I study anime and other cartoons to look at the techniques in class.

I'm on winter break from college, so I have the time go on NB which is why I'm so active. I only have 4 classes a week anyways which gives me the time to do most of the things I want to do in my day.

So you're an idiot and a hypocrite.

Itachi has no way of proving Obito isn't Madara since hardly anyone knows what he looks like aside for Onoki.

You have no proof either and you act like Izanami is a sure thing when it isn't; pulling it off is hard, hence why Itachi got stabbed when he tried to do it on Kabuto.....luckily he was an edo and didn't die

Izanami is no secret technique to the Uchiha either....it's just a kinjutsu, meaning forbidden like Izanagi. Obito knows the Uchiha kinjutsu, which means he also knows how to escape it.

And you just said Manga facts and Itachi solos Obito in the same paragraph.....Lol that's not a manga fact, that's your opinion.

and why would Obito be forced into Izanagi by Itachi? Obito has more advanced fire jutsu(except amaterasu which takes time for Itachi to cast), is better at taijutsu(able to take on Guy, Naruto, Bee, and Kakashi with just that), and has mokuton(one of the most feared techs in the narutoverse)

And you think Itachi won't be forced into Izanagi? You think it would be that easy? Lol Obito wouldn't be one of the central villains, along with Madara if he was that weak.

That's great for you. My major is criminal justice. When I graduate ill probably be arresting ignorant people as yourself just for the fun of it to ruin your life.lol sounds crazy but its true!
You win enjoy your holidays
 

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People think that obitos weak because konan almost fodderized him. Thats because she had all the info on him she needed, also theres no way itachi would survive 600billion paper bombs without izagani
 

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That's great for you. My major is criminal justice. When I graduate ill probably be arresting ignorant people as yourself just for the fun of it to ruin your life.lol sounds crazy but its true!
You win enjoy your holidays

Lol aww arresting people because you're butthurt? Life isn't a tv show kid.

And the better man would know when to walk away and control himself, not ruin people's lives because he feels insulted; that's what criminals do, and from looking at your statement would define you as a criminal.

Enjoy the holidays.
 
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