Obito should of been the final villain

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doesn't matter what people say... hopefully, things don't get more "out of hand" than it is right now.... Already the barriers of the best has been broken with teens that can beat the kages without any difficulty... any more random power-ups and this show will just fall apart from inside out
 

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That would be cool, but he Juubi's only goal is to get its power back, and it's an entity devoid of any feelings.

Well, it has some kind of emotion seeing as how it's angry about it's power being stolen. It's not like a rock or anything. Who knows, maybe it can reach full sentience and become like the Red Hulk.
 

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But you are right about the powerlevels, they have risen exponentially in the last couple of chapters to the point where naruto or sasuke could easily stomp someone like Hashirama. I can't recall the powerlevels ever increasing so dramatically.(usually it's pretty steady.)

The last fight will probably be naruto vs sasuke, but I don't think sasuke will be a villain.(more like the anti hero he is.)
 

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Madara is Obito 2.0......

This. When Obito was getting TNJ/defeated I was hoping that Kishi wouldn't repeat the same shit with Madara.....and he did. :|
Its like watching Obito again in replay but on a really bad quality TV. I wish Kishi handled Madara's character/character development better than just making him a powerup villian.
 

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He's on the verge of death now. His days are over.
 

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But you are right about the powerlevels, they have risen exponentially in the last couple of chapters to the point where naruto or sasuke could easily stomp someone like Hashirama. I can't recall the powerlevels ever increasing so dramatically.(usually it's pretty steady.)

The last fight will probably be naruto vs sasuke, but I don't think sasuke will be a villain.(more like the anti hero he is.)

yes ^ i agree the last fight will be more like naruto vs sasuke but sasuke won't be a villain.
 

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But you are right about the powerlevels, they have risen exponentially in the last couple of chapters to the point where naruto or sasuke could easily stomp someone like Hashirama. I can't recall the powerlevels ever increasing so dramatically.(usually it's pretty steady.)

The last fight will probably be naruto vs sasuke, but I don't think sasuke will be a villain.(more like the anti hero he is.)

Yea, the power levels are exponentially higher in just a short amount of time and they didn't even train for it, they just got it, randomly.

And yes, sasuke is not the FV, hes just the anti hero. Kaguya/juubi or madara are FV.
 

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Personally, i feel the Naruto and Sasuke vs Madara fight is quite boring and unexciting. too much haxxed power ups and borrowed power.

What do you think?

Too much "borrowed" power?! :D LOL

LOL LOL

Might as well tell Naruto Uzumaki to go **** himself and call it quits on the main character, because all his functions and abilities are all based on Kurama and other bijuu "fuel".

And what the hell is wrong with borrowing or stealing power? This is war, and a war that will have extreme consequences to losers and winners. This is not some 18th century "gentlemen" showdown, slapping each other before declaring the duel.

Nor is it some sort of fair, Karate-Kid style, "train-your-ass-off-to-death-then-win-in-a-dramatic-fashion", sport competition.
 

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Personally, i feel the Naruto and Sasuke vs Madara fight is quite boring and unexciting. too much haxxed power ups and borrowed power.

What do you think?

Too much "borrowed" power?! :D LOL

LOL LOL

Might as well tell Naruto Uzumaki to go **** himself and call it quits on the main character, because all his functions and abilities are all based on Kurama and other bijuu "fuel".

And what the hell is wrong with borrowing or stealing power? This is war, and a war that will have extreme consequences to losers and winners. This is not some 18th century "gentlemen" showdown, slapping each other before declaring the duel.

Nor is it some sort of fair, Karate-Kid style, "train-your-ass-off-to-death-then-win-in-a-dramatic-fashion", sport competition.
 

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meh, i really did not dig obito that much it was a boring fight for me after speeches and speeches that i sadly lost the hype in the series at that time, but after madara came back the manga was getting good we got 8 gate and to meet hagoromo plus the name of the sons and the current fight is getting hype.

overall madara is better for me as a final villian, but there's something going on with kaguya seems weird.

Well i'm not saying that madara is a bad character or a bad villain, it's just not his place, stoory wise. Obito is more relevant to the story than madara, that's all.
 
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Madara was choosen to be FV even tho he has no ties with any main characters, same for kaguya but you must remember that Kaguya started everything unlike madara who only created obito.

So what????!

She has zero character development, zero interaction with characters, and like 2 panels of flashback. How can someone possibly say that it is a satisfactory final villain??!?!

LEL LEL LEL

Isn't the point of this thread to identify Madara as an incompetent final villain and incompetent writing portion on Kishi's side?

Yet you suggest something even more stupid by a few levels higher?

That is some major >LEL< man...
 

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Obito having connections to the main characters was what ruined him. Madara not having many connections to the present characters means there isn't going to be any friendship/talk no jutsu.
 

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Well i'm not saying that madara is a bad character or a bad villain, it's just not his place, stoory wise. Obito is more relevant to the story than madara, that's all.

in storywise yeah obito is relevant there's more to be reveal soon we need more about kaguya and for once i wan't madara start fighting for real and not just chillling and been all imaooo lets keep dancing its getting boring now.

i hate breaks tho.
 

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in storywise yeah obito is relevant there's more to be reveal soon we need more about kaguya and for once i wan't madara start fighting for real and not just chillling and been all imaooo lets keep dancing its getting boring now.

i hate breaks tho.

I'd love for him to start using his Susano'o and EMS techniques. Also, since hes getting the other rinnegan, i hope he uses the rinnegan fully.

So what????!

She has zero character development, zero interaction with characters, and like 2 panels of flashback. How can someone possibly say that it is a satisfactory final villain??!?!

LEL LEL LEL

Isn't the point of this thread to identify Madara as an incompetent final villain and incompetent writing portion on Kishi's side?

Yet you suggest something even more stupid by a few levels higher?

If madara was chosen to be FV without any relevance to the story, than kaguya sure as hell can also be FV. Madara has no ties with any main characters just like kaguya but you must remember that kaguya started all the hatred. Why not make kaguya the final villan, someone who started everything from the top, unlike madara who only created obito.
 

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i perfer obito as good guy and on top of that he was getting pretty annoying constantly arguing with naruto about who ideologies was right.
 
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I'd love for him to start using his Susano'o and EMS techniques. Also, since hes getting the other rinnegan, i hope he uses the rinnegan fully.



If madara was chosen to be FV without any relevance to the story, than kaguya sure as hell can also be FV. Madara has no ties with any main characters just like kaguya but you must remember that kaguya started all the hatred. Why not make kaguya the final villan, someone who started everything from the top, unlike madara who only created obito.

lol yeah i wan't rinnegan badassery for a good time and go all out just destroy the map with the power i mean he has godlike powers and stilll just chilling like a villain lol kishi better not ruin naruto's fighthing style by spaming the black balls thing.
 

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lol yeah i wan't rinnegan badassery for a good time and go all out just destroy the map with the power i mean he godlike powers and stilll just chilling like a villain lol kishi better not ruin naruto's fighthing style by spaming the black balls thing.

Agreed. I want all three of them to fully utilize their arsenal. Naruto should be using different techs from the bijuu's, Sasuke should pull out his Susano'o and Madara needs to use the rinnegan.

This will make the fight 10x more better, imo.
 
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