Obito is the only Uchiha to have MS without killing

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We know when Kakashi, Rin and Obito were on the mission Obito got caught by the rock. When more rocks fell on Obito body it appears that Obito slipped through into Madara lair, the only way for Obito to slip through into Madara lair is Kamui.

I can't post chapter I have problem with internet, it is a flash back when Obito first met Old Madara.
 
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Wrong. He witnessed someone he loved die which is basically the same thing and Itachi also awakened MS from seeing Shisui commit suicide.


And Sasuke awakened his MS from reflecting on what his brother had to endure. Before that he still had a normal Sharingan after killing Itachi.

Furthermore, neither Madara nor Izuna were said to kill someone they loved to awaken MS and Indra certainly did not kill anyone close to him because he lived in a time of peace.
 

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How did Obito get to Madara lair? Madara stated he got there by slipping through. It looks like Obito used Kamui to get to Madara lair.

It possible Obito had Mangekyou Sharingan unlocked but didn't know and there proof that surport this is possible:

1st Sasuke unlocked his Sharingan on the day Itachi killed the entire Uchiha clan, but couldn't use Sharingan until his battle with Haku.

2nd Kakashi Mangekyou Sharingan was unlock before Part 1 started, but couldn't use MS until Part 2 for whatever reason.

So it possible to have Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan unlocked without being aware of it.
 

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Sasuke awakened MS when he found out the truth about Itachi and was reflecting on the times they had together.

Itachi awakened his when Shisui killed himself.

Madara and Izuna is unknown. Itachi said they did but he lied to Sasuke about that whole thing because we know how Madara awakened his Sharingan and it wasn't how Itachi said it.
 

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Sasuke awakened MS when he found out the truth about Itachi and was reflecting on the times they had together.

Itachi awakened his when Shisui killed himself.

Madara and Izuna is unknown. Itachi said they did but he lied to Sasuke about that whole thing because we know how Madara awakened his Sharingan and it wasn't how Itachi said it.
The person only has to experience very strong feelings to awaken dojutsu, they can either be positive or negative.
 

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Madara-Sasuke-Itachi-Obito-Izuna-Shisui. So I don't know about 4th strongest.
Madara-Itachi-Sasuke-Sarada

Shisui's MS was useless because he could only use it once in a billion years, Obito's was only strong because he had Senju cells but he still gets solo'd by Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. And Izuna got rekt by Tobirama low diff. Sarada is gonna be the 4th because she's the child of a Rinnegan user like Indra was.
 
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