Obito is is not Jinchirkurki of Complete Juubi, just INCOMPLETE[DETAILED EXPLANATION]

[AfricanProdigy]

reread my thread, You didn't read as I can say, so stop being close minded. Open your mind and read it then you will be enlighten or just stick to you baseless opinion and soon Kishi will enlighten you instead of me Lol

How is this a baseless opinion when it's clearly stated in the manga......and then you accuse him of being too close minded......YOU SIR need to accept defeat.

 

[Wolfus]

So what your saying is the form before Obito took control = the current form? lmao.

Don't see why your so butthurt about it.. And I hate Obito/Madara and other villains..... why would i fanboy about them. Trying to play the cool guy in a debate makes you look like a idiot.

Again you didn't even read my posts.. instead restated what was countered with your bs assumptions.



I can't understand the manga? Is this coming from the guy who can't understand what "Form before the final form" means ?


Dumbass HAchibi stated Obito was in the form before the final form.... THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE JUUBI.....oh my god. "Transformation/Final form" all refer to the Juubi.. meaning it transformed into the final form when Obito became 1 with it.

You are the dumbass. The form obito took is related to CONTROL, it showed obito gaining control and then taking this form. It's not related to the juubi's evolution. You cant even understand images. Hachibi said that obito absorved the juubi and became it's jinchuriki before the juubi reached it's final form. Obiti absorved an imcompletr juubi, and he changed his fotm because he gained control. It's obvious, but you're so fumb you can't understand it. Manga> you, so STFU.

 

[KingHashirama]

You are the dumbass. The form obito took is related to CONTROL, it showed obito gaining control and then taking this form. It's not related to the juubi's evolution. You cant even understand images. Hachibi said that obito absorved the juubi and became it's jinchuriki before the juubi reached it's final form. Obiti absorved an imcompletr juubi, and he changed his fotm because he gained control. It's obvious, but you're so fumb you can't understand it. Manga> you, so STFU.

I know Manga > Me..... that is why i'm not saying Hashirama > Obito.....

though i guess you believe you know more then the 8-tails... typical fans who get butthurt when something that they don't like happens. *_*

 

[KCMNaruto]

You are the dumbass. The form obito took is related to CONTROL, it showed obito gaining control and then taking this form. It's not related to the juubi's evolution. You cant even understand images. Hachibi said that obito absorved the juubi and became it's jinchuriki before the juubi reached it's final form. Obiti absorved an imcompletr juubi, and he changed his fotm because he gained control. It's obvious, but you're so fumb you can't understand it. Manga> you, so STFU.

^^ I am glad you agree with me

It is appearanly noticable that you read my thread in opposite to some blind fanboys.

 

[Transcendence]

How is this a baseless opinion when it's clearly stated in the manga......and then you accuse him of being too close minded......YOU SIR need to accept defeat.

What is clearly stated? That it is the final form? Why are you committing such a fallacious act by claiming that?

Look at those scans again. Hachibi clearly states "No it is not. The Jinchuriki did it before the final form". This chapter was even more obvious.

Obito was battling over control of his body. Seen in previous chapters it looked like the Juubi was in control since Obito couldn't even remember his name. He was battling for control of his body hence the splitting of his body and was "Finally" (Title of the Chapter) able to subdue the Juubi and gain control of his body back.

Can you explain the 1 horn and incomplete horn?

 

[AfricanProdigy]

You are the dumbass. The form obito took is related to CONTROL, it showed obito gaining control and then taking this form. It's not related to the juubi's evolution. You cant even understand images. Hachibi said that obito absorved the juubi and became it's jinchuriki before the juubi reached it's final form. Obiti absorved an imcompletr juubi, and he changed his fotm because he gained control. It's obvious, but you're so fumb you can't understand it. Manga> you, so STFU.

Even though you weren't talking to me, I stand corrected

 

[KingHashirama]

What is clearly stated? That it is the final form? Why are you committing such a fallacious act by claiming that?

Look at those scans again. Hachibi clearly states "No it is not. The Jinchuriki did it before the final form". This chapter was even more obvious.

Obito was battling over control of his body. Seen in previous chapters it looked like the Juubi was in control since Obito couldn't even remember his name. He was battling for control of his body hence the splitting of his body and was "Finally" (Title of the Chapter) able to subdue the Juubi and gain control of his body back.

Can you explain the 1 horn and incomplete horn?

Form before the final form:

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[Wolfus]

I know Manga > Me..... that is why i'm not saying Hashirama > Obito.....

though i guess you believe you know more then the 8-tails... typical fans who get butthurt when something that they don't like happens. *_*

Idiot. Obito is still the strongest in the battlefield. But the juubi is incomplete. I don't know more than thr hachibi, but I know more than you. How? Because I can correctly understand what the chars say, and you can't. You push a meaning of the words that doesnt exist just to fit what you believe, and I analyse it. You are clearly the fanboy here.

 

[Transcendence]

Form before the final form:

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You keep posting that scan yet you fail to read it yourself...

Bee asks:

"Hattsan is that the final form?"

He responds "No".

He became the Jinchuriki before it was able to transform into the final form.

 

[KingHashirama]

You keep posting that scan yet you fail to read it yourself...

Bee asks:

"Hattsan is that the final form?"

He responds "No".

He became the Jinchuriki before it was able to transform into the final form.

"FORM used by the jinchuriki prior to the final form...."...... how the hell do you not understand that?

Obito and juubi are now in the final form..... just use logic. I'm out.

 

[Wolfus]

Even though you weren't talking to me, I stand corrected

Manga> your opinion. Saying that you are correct doesn't make you correct. If you want to be correct, prove your point, otherwise your words are worth nothing.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Still didn't answer my question now did you, 8-tails clearly stated form before the final form.. but yet you think you know more then Hachibi.. Well have fun knowing more i guess. Cause it ain't helping your case.

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And I would i feel stupid about going with a manga fact.. I didn't feel stupid believing Hiruzen was the strongest hokage.. but turns out Hashirama is... Though i bet you probably felt stupid, if you were one of the fans who was saying only the SO6P can become its jinchuriki =]

Ok, I planned to ignore you, but I try last time to explain it to you as easy as I can.

IN ACCURATE TRANSLATION AS I POSTED, HACHIBI/GYUUKI SAID:

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^^ Killer bee asks: "Hattsan is that the final form ?", Hachibi: "No, It is complex but it's not, looks like it was used by the jinchurki BEFORE reaching it's FINAL FORM"

pay attention to Bolded and underlined words, it was used by the jinchurki BEFORE reaching it's FINAL FORM, what does it mean ?!

It mean that Jinchurki IS NOT NEXT STAGE OF JUUBI EVOLOUTIONS/TRANSFORMATIONS, BECOMING JUUBI JINCHURKI IS AGAIN NO ANY FORM OF NEXT TRANSFORMATION. It only reffers to JUUBI by itself that IT CAN REACH IT'S FINAL FROM, so if we know that JINCHURKI IS NOT NEEDED FOR JUUBIT TO REACH FINAL FORM, THEN IT MEANS JINCHURKI HAS NO CONNECTION/INFLUENCE OF JUUBI BECOMING COMPLETE !

Just read accurate/proper/right translation and you will understand it.

It WASN'T stated by Madara or Obito that Juubi CAN'T REACH IT'S FINAL FORM WITHOUT BECOMING IT"S JINCHURKI, what you try to claim. NO THEY JUST SAY THAT OBITO or MADARA has to BECOMING IT'S Jinchurki TO CONTROL IT in IT's FINAL FORM !.

TRANSORMATION - Juubi
Control - Juubi Jinchurki

Sorry bu I can't explain it any more easier/simplier so if you don't understand stil or refuse to understand then I wil let you stick to your thoughts/opinions

How is this a baseless opinion when it's clearly stated in the manga......and then you accuse him of being too close minded......YOU SIR need to accept defeat.

Ekhmm... Again someone didn't read my thread properly,

reread my thread or read the manga accurate, either you will get my point

 

[Mojito]

Idiot stays a idiot.

-8-tails tells killer B not to let Juubi reach the final transformation

- Obito becomes the jinchuriki

- Killer B asks 8-tails if that is the final form

- 8-tails says no its the form before the final form

- Obito transforms again, because now hes in control of the Juubi

- Logically and by manga hes in the final form.




He doesn't need em . He can easily replace them by making more chakra.. hell the juubi was gonna do the final transformation without them..



Sorry mate Manga > You..... if next week manga says its not the final form.... then its not. Right now manga is saying that is the final form. Your arguing a current manga fact , with your theory that has been put to garbage by the 8-tails......

dude you're wrong. The form he has taken is just from CONTROLLING the 10 tails. The form is still imperfect, but rather than just be INSIDE the 10 tails he now controls it. Not rocket science dude, relax with your shit.

 

[Wolfus]

"FORM used by the jinchuriki prior to the final form...."...... how the hell do you not understand that?

Obito and juubi are now in the final form..... just use logic. I'm out.

You're wrong. Obito took this form because he gained control, the manga shows it, this form is not related to the juuvi's evolution. You are just changing the meaning of hachibi's statement, because you want it to fit your opinion. This makes you an idiot and a fanboy.

 

[Transcendence]

"FORM used by the jinchuriki prior to the final form...."...... how the hell do you not understand that?

Obito and juubi are now in the final form..... just use logic. I'm out.

There is literally no point in arguing with you. READ THE DAMN THING ONE MORE TIME. "prior to the final form".

It was not in the final form when it was sealed and it still IS NOT. This chapter it did not transform. It was trying to take over Obito as evident by Obito's body splitting... Obito regaining control gave him what we would consider his own "Bijuu Mode" since he has control of the power now.

The Juubi has only transformed outside. There is absolutely no indication that it can transform within a host. That is a massive fallacy on your part.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

Yes I agree with this Thread and I thought this was obvious ... I mean you can just tell by looking at him that he's not the JJ. of the Complete Juubi. First his Horns, second that Spears around him, there are only 7 and how many Tailed BEasts he captured in there full forms? Yes, 7.

I think there's one more transformation to go for Obito .. but maybe then he will not be able to control the Juubi anymore, but let's wait, he's already a badass now.

@KingHashirama don't be such a bullhead man, it's obvious.

 

[KCMNaruto]

There is literally no point in arguing with you. READ THE DAMN THING ONE MORE TIME. "prior to the final form".

It was not in the final form when it was sealed and it still IS NOT. This chapter it did not transform. It was trying to take over Obito as evident by Obito's body splitting... Obito regaining control gave him what we would consider his own "Bijuu Mode" since he has control of the power now.

The Juubi has only transformed outside. There is absolutely no indication that it can transform within a host. That is a massive fallacy on your part.

^^ Exactly , I agree.

He most likely believe that transformation of Obito cause not only outside transformation of Obito himself but Juubi as well reaching it's final form, which is IMO SENSELESS/BASELESS, simply wrong.

Yes I agree with this Thread and I thought this was obvious ... I mean you can just tell by looking at him that he's not the JJ. of the Complete Juubi. First his Horns, second that Spears around him, there are only 7 and how many Tailed BEasts he captured in there full forms? Yes, 7.

I think there's one more transformation to go for Obito .. but maybe then he will not be able to control the Juubi anymore, but let's wait, he's already a badass now.

@KingHashirama don't be such a bullhead man, it's obvious.

^^ Thank you very much for reading and understanding , Well I don't deny possibility of Obito transforming again, but personally I believe Obito hit perfect Jinchurki form, now what he only lack is JUUBI REACHING IT'S FINAL FORM WITHIN OBITO, but we have to wait and see if this IS EVEN POSSIBLE OR NO...

Personally I believe no, because it would be kishi's style to leave openining to defeat villain and not let him/her reach it's full power...

But let's wait and see


Well I am sorry if I insulted someone or hurt his feelings, but I know reason why some people argue with what I stated by manga scans. It is because YOU READ WRONG TRANSLATION !

Here is offical one, made by VIZ:

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Link:

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AND HACHIBI CLEARLY SAYS THAT: "It seems that seals was used to create a Jinchurki BEFORE it reached FINAL FORM"

@KingHashirama ,you used WRONG TRANSLATION WITH MANGA SCAN THAT WHY YOU MISUNDERSTOOD TRUELLY MEANING OF HACHIBI WORDS.

READ PROPER/CORRECT TRANSLATION and then you avoid being dissapointed.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Is it me or does kishimoto love that coat ? Minato,Naruto,obito,so6p and who else?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Is it me or does kishimoto love that coat ? Minato,Naruto,obito,so6p and who else?

LOL, Yeah that true, maybe he think that everyone who have that is awesome or something

 

[minatootaku]

This clearly means that you can't understand the manga. Hachibi said that obito became the juubi's jinchuriki before it reached it's final form. He became juubito, as he lost control. Now, obito regained control changing to this form. The juubi is still evolving. The form obito took is relatee to CONTROL, not to the juubi's evolution. Read thr manga.

Totally agree with you bro..
*This is the most important fact..that its about CONTROL. *
Pages 9-13 of chapter 640 concentrate on the fact how obito fought his way to take control of the juubi. Juubi, without a doubt has been absorbed in its imperfect form.
But, there is a possibility that Juubi's evolution takes place inside obito..we'll hav to wait fr Kishi to clarify