obito an kakashi in gravitational dimension

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She could control the Ice dimension...yet, she froze herself along with Naruto and Sasuke.
she did that due to their proximity towards her.
When she first shifted, she was in the sky surrounded by a bunch of Naruto clones. using an unfocussed area effect type of attack made sense.
dosen't retract from the ability you're supposedly giving her.

The part with her saying she fixed it is vague(It's an assumption that she was referring to aim...just as it's my assumption that she was talking about the gravity)
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...but, it makes actual sense if she is talking about the gravity which was deviating the attacks.
it makes more sense if she was talking about aim. If she weakened the gravity around herself, kakashi, obito, and sakura(non threats as you said) then she'd have the ability to move freely. Somthing she didn't do until she shifted to genesis.

The whole Kaguya arc makes actual sense if we go off what Kakashi hinted about her ignoring those who she doesn't feel are a threat to her.
Even then it dosen't make sense.
 

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BenjerminGaye;18501586]she did that due to their proximity towards her.
dosen't retract from the ability you're supposedly giving her.

When did i say it retracted anything...she did that because Sasuke and Naruto were near her. In the gravity dimension she was surrounded by Naruto clones and Sasuke could port next to her at anytime. Same situation. (In case you are misunderstanding me...i'm suggesting that maybe she can control the gravity dimension the way she did with the Ice dimension.)

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it makes more sense if she was talking about aim. If she weakened the gravity around herself, kakashi, obito, and sakura(non threats as you said) then she'd have the ability to move freely. Somthing she didn't do until she shifted to genesis.


aren't you ignoring the part were her bones started to crumble and zetsu suggest that he had to make more chakra to help her recover? After that point wasn't everyone moving around normally...Sasuke even teleported behind her without immediately getting slammed down by the gravity.(before she shifted, so maybe she was no longer able to keep the high gravity sustained)

Even then it dosen't make sense.


It does, because then she'd see Sakura as insignificant and would ignore her...resulting in her getting punched and sealed due to underestimating her. (thus Sakura's don't look down on me...we're both woman line)

All tying in with Kakashi's plan...giving a reason for him pointing out that flaw in her character.
 
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BenjerminGaye;18501586]she did that due to their proximity towards her.
dosen't retract from the ability you're supposedly giving her.

When did i say it retracted anything...she did that because Sasuke and Naruto were near her. In the gravity dimension she was surrounded by Naruto clones and Sasuke could port next to her at anytime. Same situation. (In case you are misunderstanding me...i'm suggesting that maybe she can control the gravity dimension the way she did with the Ice dimension.)

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it makes more sense if she was talking about aim. If she weakened the gravity around herself, kakashi, obito, and sakura(non threats as you said) then she'd have the ability to move freely. Somthing she didn't do until she shifted to genesis.

aren't you ignoring the part were her bones started to crumble and zetsu suggest that he had to make more chakra to help her recover? After that point wasn't everyone moving around normally...Sasuke even teleported behind her without immediately getting slammed down by the gravity.(before she shifted, so maybe she was no longer able to keep the high gravity sustained)

Even then it dosen't make sense.


It does, because then she'd see Sakura as insignificant and would ignore her...resulting in her getting punched and sealed due to underestimating her. (thus Sakura's don't look down on me...we're both woman line)

All tying in with Kakashi's plan...giving a reason for him pointing out that flaw in her character.

You didn't QUOTE correctly
 

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Wtf? You can't tell what you wrote and what I wrote? Noted...won't do it again then.

I fixed it for you...:)

I can but it makes quoting a lot more work, since my reply would contain my argument as well as your rebuttals.
 

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When did i say it retracted anything...
Bring up the ice dimension dosen't take away from her supposed ability to manipulate gravity in the gravity dimension, so using her freezing herself(no choice in the matter) dosen't change her gravity manipulation towards her opponents(choice in the matter)

she did that because Sasuke and Naruto were near her.
I said that.
In the gravity dimension she was surrounded by Naruto clones and Sasuke could port next to her at anytime.
Sasuke was too far to port to her and she was ripping through naruto's clones with ease, not to mention the real naruto went to sasuke and Naruto's clones can't seal her (thus not being a threat)
Same situation. (In case you are misunderstanding me...i'm suggesting that maybe she can control the gravity dimension the way she did with the Ice dimension.)
I understand but as I said above the situation were vastly different.




aren't you ignoring the part were her bones started to crumble and zetsu suggest that he had to make more chakra to help her recover?
That dosen't change her "supposed"freedom of movement. Unless you're saying crumbling bones=can't move in normal gravity.
After that point wasn't everyone moving around normally...
quite the opposite. She didn't move an inch until she changed dimensions. Then she could fly freely.
Sasuke even teleported behind her without immediately getting slammed down by the gravity.
Sasuke and Naruto were able to duck despite gravity being up and sasuke teleporting to her instead of in her(like what he did to madara multiple times and like what he did to her before she shifted from earth to lava.
(before she shifted, so maybe she was no longer able to keep the high gravity sustained)
That wouldn't make sense since shifting dimensions according to her costs more than "changing gravity"



It does, because then she'd see Sakura as insignificant and would ignore her...resulting in her getting punched and sealed due to underestimating her. (thus Sakura's don't look down on me...we're both woman line)
U would have an argument had she not displayed the ability to see the seals. Her byakugan can see the seals and Naruto and sasuke yet it gets fooled by transformation jutsu which wouldn't change the seals chakra makeup. She frets over amaterasu despite already showing the capacity to absorb it. Etc.

All tying in with Kakashi's plan...giving a reason for him pointing out that flaw in her character.
Kakashi's plan was cutting off her escape options. Rips through her arm so she can't use ash bone, warps away her portal so she can't use ash bone via her proxy. Leaving sakura in his susanno so she can't out fly naruto and sauce like she's been doing for the past 10 chapters.
He's done tactics like it b4. It's pretty standard for him.
He did it to pain twice, he did it to itachi once. He did it to zabuza. Etc.
 
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