(No hype) Why Hiruzen has always been Super broken! God-Hood understood..

[Draegod]

o.0

I don't see why you got so angry. Lol

If you didn't know I don't let anyone Disrespect me when I didn't deserve it and let it slide. I did nothing nor commented anything towards you, yet you felt the need to speak on something irrelevant. Don't shoot blanks if you cannot take shots Bruh. #LifeLesson

 

[Draegod]

Ummm... the scaling of those elemental projectiles were friggin' HUGE, to be able to counter the Buddha's.

They were huge and could have gotten bigger if not counter balanced.

This read was awesome. You have earned my deep respect for this.

Great job and amazing analysis, I've always known and believed in his power. Hype or not everything that's been said about hiruzen has been from the mind of kishimoto.

Excellent job, Im probally gonna steal this and print it off for quick reference.


AMAZING!!!​

Thanks Bruh! Iv'e always had this info on Hiruzen just never went into full detailed on his old feats. PPL need to really respect there non-faves. Too many Ninjas like him, hanzou, mifune, 3rd kazekage, etc etc do not get the credit/respect they deserve imo.

Dude, you were not here in the beginning when it was a mass of itachi fanboys ruled this base, or when orochimaru and kabuto fanboys stalemated everyone with edo tensei. There have been a lot of worst fanboys than hiruzens. And honestly its not really the true fanboys that go crazy all the time, its the banwaggoners that ruin these characters images.

He has no idea Bro. lmao The Uchiha's Ran this muthafuq'er with only a few of us debating/challenging them! And even before your time aswell Minato Fanbois at a point were the worse as well. It truly is the bandwagoners who ruin character images. smh

Forgot about that but Kakashi still has 4 natures:
Lightning-obviously
Water-Copied Water Dragon, Giant Votex and Shark Bomb.
Fire-Fireball Jutsu(check the first episodes/chapers of NS)
Earth-Mud wall

Kakashi and Hiruzen are very similar. Pretty interesting when you think about it.

Kakashi has never ever shown/used Fire in the manga.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Bro the combo's are endless! I have a few combo's I might run by you when i get a chance to muster them up.

Sweet, can't wait to hear them.

 

[Penguin]

If you didn't know I don't let anyone Disrespect me when I didn't deserve it and let it slide. I did nothing nor commented anything towards you, yet you felt the need to speak on something irrelevant. Don't shoot blanks if you cannot take shots Bruh. #LifeLesson

I never disrespected you. I just said you were living in the past, or rather bringing it up all the time. I fail to see how that is being disrespectful to you. Lol

Naw bruh you have no idea what I'm talking about. Before the war arc before the kage arc I was defending Hashirama with manga feats I dug up from 100% manga page for page! Try defending a character with feats scattered all over the manga then you can know true Greatness! haha I've defended just about every character with little to no feats to regular users. You wouldn't even believe the users I've went up against and owned or had back me up. Wayy before your time bruh.

 

[Ovan]

How would we know if Tobirama is stronger then Hiruzen? We would have to see them fighting. Sadly we have not seen Hiruzen in his prime due to plot like usual. Tobirama is one of my top favorites but if he is still stronger then prime Hiruzen..Then he failed to be a good sensei in the end. The student should always surpass the teacher. If Tobirama believed that Hiruzen was a "fodder" he would have stuck a note to his back and have someone else choose the next kage.

Great thread by the way.

 

[Draegod]

I never disrespected you. I just said you were living in the past, or rather bringing it up all the time. I fail to see how that is being disrespectful to you. Lol

Again, what does that have to do with anything to make a comment on it? This thread is the only thing i bring up recently about my past on this site because he made remarks that would allow me to bring up what i stated. You were simply being a smart ass trying to call me out. Again, unless it had anything to do with you why bring up irrelevant comments? And also I still do what I did in the past 1) defend all characters, 2) Own noobs and fan bases, 3) make character Breakdown threads. What's new or in the past again?

 

[Draegod]

How would we know if Tobirama is stronger then Hiruzen? We would have to see them fighting. Sadly we have not seen Hiruzen in his prime due to plot like usual. Tobirama is one of my top favorites but if he is still stronger then prime Hiruzen..Then he failed to be a good sensei in the end. The student should always surpass the teacher. If Tobirama believed that Hiruzen was a "fodder" he would have stuck a note to his back and have someone else choose the next kage.

Great thread by the way.

Thanks! And yea imagine if that Random Fat team mate woudl have became hokage instead of Danzou or Hiruzen.lol Too bad he didn't volunteer to die i guess. lol

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[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Brilliantly put together thread, you used many a facts and scans and did good to stay away from making assumptions. Though I feel I have to say the fact he used 5 elements is fact enough that he can use all konoha jutsu - kekei genkai techniques.

 

[Penguin]

Again, what does that have to do with anything to make a comment on it? This thread is the only thing i bring up recently about my past on this site because he made remarks that would allow me to bring up what i stated. You were simply being a smart ass trying to call me out. Again, unless it had anything to do with you why bring up irrelevant comments? And also I still do what I did in the past 1) defend all characters, 2) Own noobs and fan bases, 3) make character Breakdown threads. What's new or in the past again?

Lol don't get so butthurt. My bad if you are upset. Just chill.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Lol don't get so butthurt. My bad if you are upset. Just chill.

Super penguin can tobirama use ice style?

Edit: I. Just messing would be cool though

 

[Draegod]

Brilliantly put together thread, you used many a facts and scans and did good to stay away from making assumptions. Though I feel I have to say the fact he used 5 elements is fact enough that he can use all konoha jutsu - kekei genkai techniques.

Thank you! Yea we can assume he can use most but not all. Many of the jutsu are secret clan techs, But he does have a way he has shown to know what every ninja in the village is doing though. So idk.. But Ima just avoid that ship for now.lol

Lol don't get so butthurt. My bad if you are upset. Just chill.

Bro I'm cooler then the other side of the pillow! Im just Chillin. I have many users that Try bad mouth, and I have to check them If i feel they are coming Incorrect. Nothing personal towards you, just no I don't take shit from no one. haha

 

[Penguin]

Thank you! Yea we can assume he can use most but not all. Many of the jutsu are secret clan techs, But he does have a way he has shown to know what every ninja in the village is doing though. So idk.. But Ima just avoid that ship for now.lol




Bro I'm cooler then the other side of the pillow! Im just Chillin. I have many users that Try bad mouth, and I have to check them If i feel they are coming Incorrect. Nothing personal towards you, just no I don't take shit from no one. haha

Lol them sayings.

Super penguin can tobirama use ice style?

Edit: I. Just messing would be cool though

.-.

No. But he can whoop up on a lot of people without it.

 

[kakashi owns all]

Yall know ive been on the 3rds side for a long time, good tread tho
Draegod

 

[Retsu]

pretty good thread, only thing I disagree with is what you said about the buddha statue, spiral zets hasn't been shown to possess senjutsu so I disagree with what you said about him keeping up sage mode powered jutsu's, also his buddha statue is on a smaller scale compared to Hashi's so I think he's not using the senjutsu powered version.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

pretty good thread, only thing I disagree with is what you said about the buddha statue, spiral zets hasn't been shown to possess senjutsu so I disagree with what you said about him keeping up sage mode powered jutsu's, also his buddha statue is on a smaller scale compared to Hashi's so I think he's not using the senjutsu powered version.

I don't think Hashi's Buddha can use elements to begin with, since both carry different hat/cap.

 

[EliteKakashi]

The next jutsu we end up seeing from Hiruzen could potentially be a "true" swamp of the underworld.

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Jiraiya claims that ^ is

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but it was still large enough to trap that gigantic snake. Hiruzen's swamp of the underworld could potentially sink the buddha.

 

[Draegod]

Yall know ive been on the 3rds side for a long time, good tread tho
Draegod

Hell yea, me and you use to go at it on Hashirama and Hiruzen. lol Thanks man.

pretty good thread, only thing I disagree with is what you said about the buddha statue, spiral zets hasn't been shown to possess senjutsu so I disagree with what you said about him keeping up sage mode powered jutsu's, also his buddha statue is on a smaller scale compared to Hashi's so I think he's not using the senjutsu powered version.

Thanks, and yea we need to know more about this Wood crap and Zetsu guy. It's 50/50 as of now I'd say.

The next jutsu we end up seeing from Hiruzen could potentially be a "true" swamp of the underworld.

Spoiler

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Jiraiya claims that ^ is

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but it was still large enough to trap that gigantic snake. Hiruzen's swamp of the underworld could potentially sink the buddha.

lol Or Jman could some how be revived to make a impact!!! haha that would be boss. Hiruzen using it would be boring because then he would solo all.lol

 

[Huzaifa]

Dude, you were not here in the beginning when it was a mass of itachi fanboys ruled this base, or when orochimaru and kabuto fanboys stalemated everyone with edo tensei. There have been a lot of worst fanboys than hiruzens. And honestly its not really the true fanboys that go crazy all the time, its the banwaggoners that ruin these characters images.

Ahh you reminded me of the itachi fappers those *****s gave me night mares tbats how dumb they were

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

i salute you

 

[Draegod]

i salute you

Thanks bruh!