(No hype) Why Hiruzen has always been Super broken! God-Hood understood..

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Hiruzen got ROFLstomped by a pedophile and two dead guys how great can he be

great enough to seal the dead guys and stop the pedophile......so

 

[Vandenre1ch]

My thread barely even mentions the recent feat, and even then I gave a scale of how powerful it is. Tobirama cannot beat Hiruzen sorry to tell ya buddy.

Almost everything you mention about Hiruzen really reminded me of Kakashi, especially the sense of smell thing(Kakashi's sense of smell was said to be better than Kiba). Kakashi also has 4 elements and speed. The only reason Kakashi is top 20 or above is because of Kamui.

Hiruzen doesn't have any feats that unbiasly puts him in the top 10 and everything else you mentioned was completely debunked with unbiased logic over a year ago.

You should 100% relay on manga feats instead of unsupported hype and fanboyism.

 

[omarsen]

Hiruzen got ROFLstomped by a pedophile and two dead guys how great can he be

He was able to take down Senju brothers, and one of them is the God of Shinobi no big deal, and trolled orochimaru hard for the rest of the manga.

come on dude. don't hype hiruzen just because he can use 5 elements now. Who dies in modern world with simple fire,water,lightning,air, or land. These are just bullshit techs and useful only to kill fodders. Big guys play with amatersu,Tsukuyomi,jinton,FTG,Susanoo , mokuton ,TBB etc. anything weaker than this is just for showoff.

Tell me who else is able to use all five elements beside Rinnegan users and kakuzu who stole hearts inorder to use the nature release

 

[Booker]

Hiruzen>Batman

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Don't get me started.

 

[Trollasaur]

Let's not get upset here.

We know Tobirama shits on Hiruzen, You can deny it all you want.

You're upset

 

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Almost everything you mention about Hiruzen really reminded me of Kakashi, especially the sense of smell thing(Kakashi's sense of smell was said to be better than Kiba). Kakashi also has all 5 elements and speed. The only reason Kakashi is top 20 or above is because of Kamui and feats.

Hiruzen doesn't have any feats that unbiasly puts him in the top 10 and everything else you mentioned was completely debunked with unbiased logic over a year ago.

You should 100% relay on manga feats instead of unsupported hype and fanboyism.

sorry but nope kakashi has three nature, he said it him self he isnt a wind user thats why he called asuma to give naruto tips

 

[EliteKakashi]

Yea Kishi will have him defeat the buhda with the help of... Oru! Oru has a plan! What do you think?

I'm still not entirely sure of Oro's intentions. Instead of helping the SA fight the buddha, he just stood aside and watched..even though he helped fight the God Tree. He's obviously powerful enough to do some damage, but has chosen not to up to this point. Another problem, is like everyone else, he would eventually run out of chakra himself. His best route could end up being summoning more edos. How he would get the DNA for it I'm not sure, but it's Oro, he probably has 200 different ways of going about it. Maybe bring in Edo Jiraiya or something.

 

[Murasame]

Tobirama is a shitty character who got stomped by Madara. Lol
Also Hiruzen>Tobirama

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[startup97]

Hiruzen>Tobirama

 

[Souji]

Ummm... the scaling of those elemental projectiles were friggin' HUGE, to be able to counter the Buddha's.

 

[MickNerks]

This read was awesome. You have earned my deep respect for this.

Great job and amazing analysis, I've always known and believed in his power. Hype or not everything that's been said about hiruzen has been from the mind of kishimoto.

Excellent job, Im probally gonna steal this and print it off for quick reference.


AMAZING!!!​

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama is a shitty character who got stomped by Madara. Lol
Also Hiruzen>Tobirama

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Trying to get someone butthurt? o.0

 

[MickNerks]

trust me, i was here when hiruzen wank was real!!

I used to debate it all day. Back when People thought hiruzen can beat hashirama.

Dude, you were not here in the beginning when it was a mass of itachi fanboys ruled this base, or when orochimaru and kabuto fanboys stalemated everyone with edo tensei. There have been a lot of worst fanboys than hiruzens. And honestly its not really the true fanboys that go crazy all the time, its the banwaggoners that ruin these characters images.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

sorry but nope kakashi has three nature, he said it him self he isnt a wind user thats why he called asuma to give naruto tips

Forgot about that but Kakashi still has 4 natures:
Lightning-obviously
Water-Copied Water Dragon, Giant Votex and Shark Bomb.
Fire-Fireball Jutsu(check the first episodes/chapers of NS)
Earth-Mud wall

Kakashi and Hiruzen are very similar. Pretty interesting when you think about it.

 

[Penguin]

Went from how boss Hiruzen was to who was here first and how they "owned".

#Livininthepast

 

[Draegod]

he mentioned hiruzen never practised RDS but he still can use this. lol. if he practised it he would be dead.

If enma is as strong as diamnond then why did kusanagi hurt it. + by your logic ENMA is in top 10 Hahahha

The fact that he only seen it done once and mastered it shows testiment. Did you not read the entire thread or are you clueless? He said it would be sore and also consider the Kusanagi is the Best and most powerful Physical sword equal to Totsuka stated by kishi, it isn't a bad thing that it was able to harm (not beat) enma. Pay attention now.

You made this long about 5 basic elements pretty much the only Op thing I see is enma. Hiruzen has alot to prove he isn't even top 25 but with the little feats people act like he's top 10.

Opinion. Like My top ten is better then yours correct?

come on dude. don't hype hiruzen just because he can use 5 elements now. Who dies in modern world with simple fire,water,lightning,air, or land. These are just bullshit techs and useful only to kill fodders. Big guys play with amatersu,Tsukuyomi,jinton,FTG,Susanoo , mokuton ,TBB etc. anything weaker than this is just for showoff.

Read the thread. Barely mentions New feats. Yet you assume it revolves around that alone. lmao And I agree one hit moves are what you mean. But getting hit by all five Elements at once isnt a one hit move? Hmmm

Almost everything you mention about Hiruzen really reminded me of Kakashi, especially the sense of smell thing(Kakashi's sense of smell was said to be better than Kiba). Kakashi also has all 5 elements and speed. The only reason Kakashi is top 20 or above is because of Kamui and feats.

Hiruzen doesn't have any feats that unbiasly puts him in the top 10 and everything else you mentioned was completely debunked with unbiased logic over a year ago.

You should 100% relay on manga feats instead of unsupported hype and fanboyism.

Lmao Noob said Kakashi has 5 elements!!!!???? You lost all credibility on this site with me. Calls me a fanboi, yet in the past I was the one keeping Hiruzen fans in check before the kage arc. hmmmm You are new so I'll spare your feelings.. Just exit the thread and never return my guy.

I'm still not entirely sure of Oro's intentions. Instead of helping the SA fight the buddha, he just stood aside and watched..even though he helped fight the God Tree. He's obviously powerful enough to do some damage, but has chosen not to up to this point. Another problem, is like everyone else, he would eventually run out of chakra himself. His best route could end up being summoning more edos. How he would get the DNA for it I'm not sure, but it's Oro, he probably has 200 different ways of going about it. Maybe bring in Edo Jiraiya or something.

If he bring Jman back.... Th emanga would have some swag again! But yea Oru has a plan and hidden motive obv, But based on what's going on now he will help when it is needed. Seeing as Sarutobi is holding his own so far, he doesn't feel the need to make a move yet i assume.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Draegod I just though of combos he can use with his Shadow Shiruken (Examples).

With Fire:

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With Wind:

Look at Konan's attack boost with Wind Release:

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Here is a description on what happen:

A simple technique that when the users hands are clapped together, wind is compressed and transformed into a powerful gale. This technique, when used as an isolated attack has the power to easily knock over a human. Though the true value comes from using it together with projectile weapons like shuriken or kunai. Their speed, power, and ability to wound or even kill are all increased several times.

 

[Draegod]

Went from how boss Hiruzen was to who was here first and how they "owned".

#Livininthepast

**Sigh** Out of no where you grow some balls I see! Must have been talking to your internet best friends to build some confidence. Please do not make me Shit on you. I own you and your fave users on a regular no diff. So please stay in a child's place kid.

 

[Penguin]

**Sigh** Out of no where you grow some balls I see! Must have been talking to your internet best friends to build some confidence. Please do not make me Shit on you. I own you and your fave users on a regular no diff. So please stay in a child's place kid.

o.0

I don't see why you got so angry. Lol

Draegod I just though of combos he can use with his Shadow Shiruken (Examples).

With Fire:

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With Wind:

Look at Konan's attack boost with Wind Release:

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Here is a description on what happen:

He should be able too, but some people will ask for feats of him doing it. He has been shown to have great knowledge of all the elements, extreme chakra control, and years of experience.

 

[Draegod]

Draegod I just though of combos he can use with his Shadow Shiruken (Examples).

With Fire:

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With Wind:

Look at Konan's attack boost with Wind Release:

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Here is a description on what happen:

Bro the combo's are endless! I have a few combo's I might run by you when i get a chance to muster them up.