[Ninja Battle Training] 2. Ninja Battle Training

[Scorps]

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Ninja Battle Training

As you know, you will not learn any new skills or jutsu here. This is only to further aid your own fighting skills. To achieve this we will go through some chapters or stages:

2.1 Earth
2.2 Fire
2.3 Water
2.4 Wind
2.5 Lightning
2.6 Ninjutsu
2.7 Genjutsu
2.8 Custom Jutsu and Weapon making

Before we start i need you to post the links to your bios as well as your own definition of what is a Ninja, Chakra, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Genjutsu​

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Current bios in Sig, replacing magnetism bio with the 4th raikage ttp://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107828

Ninjas are the primary military power of the hidden ninja villages,some come from specialized ninja clans, and will perform missions for a fee and others go rogue and have no alliance to villages. The most prominent features of a ninja is the ability to control chakra and perform the 3 ninja arts ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu.

Chakra is physical and spiritual energy molded together then channelled through the chakra circulatory system and then through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions.

Taijutsu is hand to hand combat that typically does not require chakra, though chakra may be used to enhance its power. Taijutsu require no hand seals to perform and is much quicker to use than ninjutsu or genjutsu at close range. Few ninja specialize in taijutsu and various styles including strong arm (lee/guy, basic tai you learn on NB) gentle fist ( hyuuga clan ) nintaijutsu ( 4th raikage and bee) and kaguya taijutsu (kimimaro)

Ninjutsu is the use of chakra to perform normally impossible things like controlling elements, walking on water or up trees and various other effects. Most ninjutsu require hand seals (which vary depending upon power, complexity experience and elemental affinity) When creating a ninjutsu, the two methods of manipulating chakra are referred to as Shape Transformation which shapes the chakra into a physical form ( extreme example bring rasengan and TBBs) and Nature Transformation ( turning chakra into elements like fire or lightning )

Genjutsu, like ninjutsu requires hand seals and chakra but is used for manipulation of an enemies chakra flow in his brain causing illusions of varying effects and don't actually hurt their body like ninjutsu. It can be applied by sound waves, eye contact, from summonings like mizukages clam or even smell.

 

[Kamishiro]

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Ninjutsu

ninjutsu (ninja techniques) is on of the three basic jutsus (ninjutsu -genjutsu-taijutsu) and it's the strongest one of them all the ninja can use it except rocl lee cuz he can just use taijutsu and yin and yang can be implemented separately or together in order to create a ninjutsu and It can be used in collaboration with taijutsu to create nintaijutsu techniques. there is alot of it for example (chidori) it's very great jutsu that sasuke always use it with ninjutsu u can make clones by Clone Techniques and like Amaterasu it's vert strong jutsu that can be used by mangekyo sharingan itachi and sasuke used it at ther fight and ninjtsu is also can control ninja's chakra so it's the strongest jutsu of the three basic jutsus also well ninjutsu is super power it allow the ninja to make super and special things that normal person can't do it and it's very important to us cuz by it we can harm and make a lot of pain and also we can escape from differents attacks from the sky and from the land etc.... and the chakra is the energy that the ninja use it to make jutus and the ninja can help the other ninjas with it if he was a meddical ninja on a short way
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Taijutsu

Taijutsu is the body techniques it's the techniques the only techniques that don't need chakra and it don't have any hand seals and all of it short range and it's techniques are faster than the ninjutsu and genjutsu techniques and the only to how use taijutsu are lee and guy also the user can comine the taijutsu with ninjutsu to make nintaijutsu techniques and to have the 8 gates you must mastared the taijutsu

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well genjutsu is mind tricks the ninja take the chakra from there mind and they use it to control there enemys mind's chakra and the kg that helps boosts the effects of Genjutsu is the sharingan and it's couses alot of pain and it harm the enemy's body but there are alot of ways to escape like open the curse mark or have sharingan like 1 tomoe that escape from d rank genjutsu and 2 and 3 tomoe that i think they escape from a rank genjutsu there are a lot of ppl use genjutsu like kurnai and itachi

i just copied and pasted from my training threads if you want any thing deffrent tell me

 

[Scorps]

Current bios in Sig, replacing magnetism bio with the 4th raikage ttp://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107828

Ninjas are the primary military power of the hidden ninja villages,some come from specialized ninja clans, and will perform missions for a fee and others go rogue and have no alliance to villages. The most prominent features of a ninja is the ability to control chakra and perform the 3 ninja arts ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. 1.

Chakra is physical and spiritual energy molded together then channelled through the chakra circulatory system and then through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions.

Taijutsu is hand to hand combat that typically does not require chakra, though chakra may be used to enhance its power. 2.Taijutsu require no hand seals to perform and is much quicker to use than ninjutsu or genjutsu at close range. Few ninja specialize in taijutsu and various styles including strong arm (lee/guy, basic tai you learn on NB) gentle fist ( hyuuga clan ) nintaijutsu ( 4th raikage and bee) and kaguya taijutsu (kimimaro)

Ninjutsu is the use of chakra to perform normally impossible things like controlling elements, walking on water or up trees and various other effects. Most ninjutsu require hand seals (which vary depending upon power, complexity experience and elemental affinity) When creating a ninjutsu, the two methods of manipulating chakra are referred to as Shape Transformation which shapes the chakra into a physical form ( extreme example bring rasengan and TBBs) and Nature Transformation ( turning chakra into elements like fire or lightning )3.

Genjutsu, like ninjutsu requires hand seals and chakra but is used for manipulation of an enemies chakra flow in his brain causing illusions of varying effects and don't actually hurt their body like ninjutsu. It can be applied by sound waves, eye contact, from summonings like mizukages clam or even smell.4.

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Ninjutsu

ninjutsu (ninja techniques) is on of the three basic jutsus (ninjutsu -genjutsu-taijutsu) and it's the strongest one of them all the ninja can use it except rocl lee cuz he can just use taijutsu and yin and yang can be implemented separately or together in order to create a ninjutsu and It can be used in collaboration with taijutsu to create nintaijutsu techniques. there is alot of it for example (chidori) it's very great jutsu that sasuke always use it with ninjutsu u can make clones by Clone Techniques and like Amaterasu it's vert strong jutsu that can be used by mangekyo sharingan itachi and sasuke used it at ther fight and ninjtsu is also can control ninja's chakra so it's the strongest jutsu of the three basic jutsus also well ninjutsu is super power it allow the ninja to make super and special things that normal person can't do it and it's very important to us cuz by it we can harm and make a lot of pain and also we can escape from differents attacks from the sky and from the land etc.... and the chakra is the energy that the ninja use it to make jutus and the ninja can help the other ninjas with it if he was a meddical ninja on a short way
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Taijutsu

Taijutsu is the body techniques it's the techniques the only techniques that don't need chakra and it don't have any hand seals and all of it short range and it's techniques are faster than the ninjutsu and genjutsu techniques and the only to how use taijutsu are lee and guy also the user can comine the taijutsu with ninjutsu to make nintaijutsu techniques and to have the 8 gates you must mastared the taijutsu

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well genjutsu is mind tricks the ninja take the chakra from there mind and they use it to control there enemys mind's chakra and the kg that helps boosts the effects of Genjutsu is the sharingan and it's couses alot of pain and it harm the enemy's body but there are alot of ways to escape like open the curse mark or have sharingan like 1 tomoe that escape from d rank genjutsu and 2 and 3 tomoe that i think they escape from a rank genjutsu there are a lot of ppl use genjutsu like kurnai and itachi

i just copied and pasted from my training threads if you want any thing deffrent tell me

1. I'd add that a ninja is basically someone that helps achieve a given set of goals in accordance to a given set of convictions. Even a baker may be a ninja if you look at it in a more generic way. However, ninjas in Naruto verse are normally military oriented and more warrior like than in other concepts.

2. Normally you'd be correct. However, as we all know, in naruto verse, chakra is the energy that fuels the body. Its intertwined with the body's functions and is basically what enables it to live. As so, if Taijutsu is basically hand-to-hand combat, it also requires chakra. It requires it in a more passive way but it requires it non the less. Bear that in mind. Even the simplest movement you make expends chakra.

3. Perfect! ^^

4. I'd rephrase this a bit. A genjutsu is basically any given skill that makes the target experience an illusion rather than a real effect. In normal genjutsu, chakra from your enemy scrambles your own chakra flow, specially in your brain, to make you experience illusions. Generally this requires close distance between the ninjas and also hand seals or eye contact or pheromones or sound, etc. However, some passive illusions (like visual ones that we see on RL) could also be categorized as genjutsu even if you don't actually use chakra to perform them.

-Kamishiro- Please work on your english. There is barely a sentence in what you posted. You also neglected to explain what a ninja is to you. Read my notes on Sarutobis post and his posts and please be more careful with your phrasing and writing. Use short sentences and . as it helps to read. But in general you got the basic idea behind each concept. Don't, however, fall on the temptation of mixing things. When we talk about genjutsu, there is no need to talk about the sharingan unless as an example. When someone asks for a concept on your own words just say what that is to you. ^^

Now, do any of you have any questions before we get to the next point?

PS-Sorry for the delay. I'll try to be faster for the coming posts...

 

[Kamishiro]

-Kamishiro- Please work on your english. There is barely a sentence in what you posted. You also neglected to explain what a ninja is to you. Read my notes on Sarutobis post and his posts and please be more careful with your phrasing and writing. Use short sentences and . as it helps to read. But in general you got the basic idea behind each concept. Don't, however, fall on the temptation of mixing things. When we talk about genjutsu, there is no need to talk about the sharingan unless as an example. When someone asks for a concept on your own words just say what that is to you. ^^

Now, do any of you have any questions before we get to the next point?

PS-Sorry for the delay. I'll try to be faster for the coming posts...

sorry and no questions

 

[Scorps]

sorry and no questions

Np man! Just make sure you understand everything and that you ask all the questions needed. Try and work on your english. Its your main enemy right now ^^

 

[Vroqrak]

so can I share too?

 

[Scorps]

so can I share too?

You are not a part of this training. Please refrain from spamming training threads from other people or you'll be reported ^^

 

[Scorps]

Well, sorry for the delay. RL has been a bit busy. Since i assume you both know battle rules i won't post them but i must ask you both to explain to me 3 key concepts in our RP's battle rules:

-What is the time frame rule and how does it work?

-What exactly is the realism rule?

-What does it mean that "you cannot simply avoid an attack" and how does this apply?​

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Well, sorry for the delay. RL has been a bit busy. Since i assume you both know battle rules i won't post them but i must ask you both to explain to me 3 key concepts in our RP's battle rules:

-What is the time frame rule and how does it work?

-What exactly is the realism rule?

-What does it mean that "you cannot simply avoid an attack" and how does this apply?​

1. The Time frame rule is the rule of your characters following a realistic flow of events in the fight and decides many things including your first move can't be interrupted, you need to have a reason, ability and time to counter a move and if the counter would be able to happen in real time.

2. The realism rule is the rule that your moves need to follow a (narutoverse style) realistic version of time and ability. It prevents such things as someone just hiding bombs everywhere and not saying anything about it or using 3 forbidden rank attacks back to back in 3-4 seconds or something, basically god modeing a fight and cheating to win.

3. You can't just say " I dodge your S rank attack and do yada yada" you need to use your own jutsu to avoid or block an attack and describe how it happens as to fit into the time frame of the fight ( allowing both to base moves off specific points of time better then vague " when you dodge I do this" or " I dodge this then as you attack me again I dodge a secobd later" or something.

Tried to describe them well, not sure how it did

 

[Kamishiro]

1- The time frame rule is to make the fight on here like the ninja world as the one can't make 3 moves at the same time or at 1 second unless he has clones or he is somu no kou [spelling] so that means that when he make the first attack the opponent has the time to make jutsu to defend against it and continue towards the user if the user made a jutsu lower on rank than the opponent attack and whoever make/say that he make 3 or 2 moves at the same time he brake the time frame and lose

2-the realism rule means that the user must imagine that he is on naruto world/nina world and that gives him the ability to make attacks and jutsu just like naruto means that he can make things on ninja world he can't make on te real world as jumping very high ,running very fast,go under ground ,spit out fire and water and manipulate the nature like the sage mode also on narutoverse he has the ability to summon animals all that he can't make on the RL

3- it means that the one can's simply avoid an attack with jumping or so like if the user throw fire ball at the opponent and the opponent say that i jump from the tree so the attack won't reach me and that brake the rules ,also he can't just say that i make a/s water attack to block your fire ball he must describe how he use the jutsu and put the jutsu on his move

i wish that is good :shrug:

 

[Scorps]

1- The time frame rule is to make the fight on here like the ninja world as the one can't make 3 moves at the same time or at 1 second unless he has clones or he is somu no kou [spelling] so that means that when he make the first attack the opponent has the time to make jutsu to defend against it and continue towards the user if the user made a jutsu lower on rank than the opponent attack and whoever make/say that he make 3 or 2 moves at the same time he brake the time frame and lose

2-the realism rule means that the user must imagine that he is on naruto world/nina world and that gives him the ability to make attacks and jutsu just like naruto means that he can make things on ninja world he can't make on te real world as jumping very high ,running very fast,go under ground ,spit out fire and water and manipulate the nature like the sage mode also on narutoverse he has the ability to summon animals all that he can't make on the RL

3- it means that the one can's simply avoid an attack with jumping or so like if the user throw fire ball at the opponent and the opponent say that i jump from the tree so the attack won't reach me and that brake the rules ,also he can't just say that i make a/s water attack to block your fire ball he must describe how he use the jutsu and put the jutsu on his move

i wish that is good :shrug:

1. The Time frame rule is the rule of your characters following a realistic flow of events in the fight and decides many things including your first move can't be interrupted, you need to have a reason, ability and time to counter a move and if the counter would be able to happen in real time.

2. The realism rule is the rule that your moves need to follow a (narutoverse style) realistic version of time and ability. It prevents such things as someone just hiding bombs everywhere and not saying anything about it or using 3 forbidden rank attacks back to back in 3-4 seconds or something, basically god modeing a fight and cheating to win.

3. You can't just say " I dodge your S rank attack and do yada yada" you need to use your own jutsu to avoid or block an attack and describe how it happens as to fit into the time frame of the fight ( allowing both to base moves off specific points of time better then vague " when you dodge I do this" or " I dodge this then as you attack me again I dodge a secobd later" or something.

Tried to describe them well, not sure how it did

Excellent replies!!! You got the core idea right! Now, before we head on to battle i must ask if someone has any questions regarding battling rules, rules, moves, time frame, clones, etc etc. Please be sure to ask them now as it makes the following process much easier if we take care of these questions now.

But good job you two!! ^^​

 

[Kamishiro]

well i want to ask how can the one make a perfect combo and don't brake the time frame xd

 

[Scorps]

well i want to ask how can the one make a perfect combo and don't brake the time frame xd

A very good question. Not all combos are 2 or 3 jutsu done at the same time. Some combos are just combinations of moves that work well together. For example, you can use World Shaking (spelling) to make your opponent lose balance and in the split second later use Stone Spikes to make him impale himself in them as he falls. This is a type of basic combo.

The type of combo that you are referring is to use for example an earth technique and a fire technique at the same time in a way that produces almost lava.

Two ways:

-Have Yin and Yang manipulation mastered

-Use clones

When you use clones you can use multiple techniques (3 max) at the exactly same time.

Also, just a quick remainder:

B+B rank techniques in combo = A-Rank technique
A+A rank techniques in combo = S-Rank techinque
S+S rank techniques in combo = Strong S-Rank

A+B rank technique in combo = Strong A-Rank

And some combos work with elemental advantage: A fire and wind combo can only be blocked by same rank Water and Wind combo or Higher Rank water. For example.

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carefully and take some mental notes.

Also, in combos, there is no such thing as linear reasoning. Logic also applies. You can't add damage and do combos by combining any type of jutsu. Size, description, nature, etc etc all count.

Hope i answered your question ^^ If not, ask me something more specific and i'll try to answer or find someone who can ^^​

 

[Kamishiro]

A very good question. Not all combos are 2 or 3 jutsu done at the same time. Some combos are just combinations of moves that work well together. For example, you can use World Shaking (spelling) to make your opponent lose balance and in the split second later use Stone Spikes to make him impale himself in them as he falls. This is a type of basic combo.

The type of combo that you are referring is to use for example an earth technique and a fire technique at the same time in a way that produces almost lava.

Two ways:

-Have Yin and Yang manipulation mastered

-Use clones

When you use clones you can use multiple techniques (3 max) at the exactly same time.

Also, just a quick remainder:

B+B rank techniques in combo = A-Rank technique
A+A rank techniques in combo = S-Rank techinque
S+S rank techniques in combo = Strong S-Rank

A+B rank technique in combo = Strong A-Rank

And some combos work with elemental advantage: A fire and wind combo can only be blocked by same rank Water and Wind combo or Higher Rank water. For example.

I suggest reading this

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carefully and take some mental notes.

Also, in combos, there is no such thing as linear reasoning. Logic also applies. You can't add damage and do combos by combining any type of jutsu. Size, description, nature, etc etc all count.

Hope i answered your question ^^ If not, ask me something more specific and i'll try to answer or find someone who can ^^​

well i think on world shaking the opponent can simply add chakra on his feet to make him stand correctly
but ya you answered my question

 

[Scorps]

well i think on world shaking the opponent can simply add chakra on his feet to make him stand correctly
but ya you answered my question

He can...if he thinks of it. Its a valid counter to world shaking but not all opponents will know exactly what to do. Its up to each fighter to use their ingenuity to find valid counters and moves. Thus you make a combo thinking your opponent can't dodge it or will dodge it in a certain way. However he can or can't dodge it and if he does he can do it in many valid ways. Thats the beauty of the RP. ^^

 

[Kamishiro]

yeh ^^

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Two questions, is there really a limit on number of shadow clones you can use in one match (pervy told me u can only use the jutsu 3 or 4 times a battle during our nin training )

And how long would it take someone at 28 speed on the speed chart to go from mid to taijutsu range?

 

[Scorps]

Two questions, is there really a limit on number of shadow clones you can use in one match (pervy told me u can only use the jutsu 3 or 4 times a battle during our nin training )

And how long would it take someone at 28 speed on the speed chart to go from mid to taijutsu range?

Quoted from rei's battle rules:

Clones of any kind may only be used three times in battle and there will be a maximum of 4 clones created at a time.

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The speed chart only exists as a backup plan when difficult arguments appear regarding speed between two fighters. Therefore, you shouldn't take it into account to base the time it takes to run a certain distance. Short-Mid-Long are but "concepts" as short can be about 3 meters from you and also melee; and mid would be between lets say 4 meters and 15 or something; and long would be more than 15 but with no real upper limit (this is but speculation and a bit of "subjective reasoning"). So trying to guess the time it takes for a ninja with a given speed to go from point a to point b is irrelevant really. The best basis for that data is the actual Manga. (comparing cannon characters abilities) Unless your bio has a special speed its always acceptable that between the time a ninja goes from mid to short range his enemy has time to perform most techniques and jutsus.

You shouldn't try and use Mugi's chart to something it isn't. When you say you have a speed of 28 its irrelevant. What MAY be relevant is that opening a gate would give you 2x speed for example. Its like the damage in the jutsus we use. Its there for reference and comparison not for absolute measurement. Knowing that a swift release technique enables you x15 speed or that a taijutsu master is faster than a normal ninja, etc etc.

Only use that chart if you are in a dire argument with no other resolution and you are absolutely certain of what you are saying.

I don't know if i answered your question completely. If not, ask again and i'll try to get a special member to answer it differently and more completely.​

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

I was just asking because I want to be knowledgeable about what I can realistiy do with an A bio if I pass the test ( my speed with his lightning armor is 28 which is why i asked otherwise only minato bios could outmanuver me in it.