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That's because Tsunade can heal herself but Neji can beat before she heals herself unless she uses creation rebirth but she cant use it for long or she shortens her life span too much.

Naruto has surpassed Jiraya and Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru experience dosen't mean anything in Naruto.

Neji has 3.5 in stamina Tsunade has a 4 that's not much of a difference.

Neji's byakugan sees chakra so if she doses he can counter with gentle fist.

Your acting like if Neji is a distance from her his going to waste chakra trying to hit her Neji is a close combat fighter and is too smart to do something like that.

Im not talking about her with Katsuya she fights Neji with her own powers.

Dude, one punch K.O.
 

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Im going to explain this to you as simple as i can, Chakra cancels out chakra that's why Naruto's fox chakra canceled it out taijutsu cant destroy chakra lol that's like saying Tsunade's fist can destroy Naruto's rasengan just because she broke a susano rib.

Going By Your Logic This means Neji Can Block Evey Form of Rasengan?.

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Dude, one punch K.O.

Not saying that Neji would win, but Neji also has a one touch KO. Thats what the gentle fist is about.

And like you said, Tsunade's dtrength is so great that any punch could kill him.

Anyways, this is all about who can get in the killing blow first. Again, not saying than Neji would win.
 

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Going By Your Logic This means Neji Can Block Evey Form of Rasengan?.

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Rotation and Rasengan would cancel each other out since there both made of chakra taijutsu dosen't.
 

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Rotation and Rasengan would cancel each other out since there both made of chakra taijutsu dosen't.

I Would like to See where your Getting this From.

I Can't remember it being Said Anywhere that Chakra Cancels out Other chakra Based Attacks.
Nor That Taijutsu Doesn't/Can't Break Chakra
 

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Doesn't Tsunade release a concentrated amount of chakra into her punches? Also a reminder, Neji's most notable attack and defense relies on poses. Tsunade has been shown to mess up one's posture by brutalizing the ground using her immense strength.

What I really think Tsunade needs is panel time on showing off her medical equipment. The equipment seems just as useful to me as her immense strength IMO
 

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That's because Tsunade can heal herself but Neji can beat before she heals herself unless she uses creation rebirth but she cant use it for long or she shortens her life span too much.

Naruto has surpassed Jiraya and Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru experience dosen't mean anything in Naruto.

Neji has 3.5 in stamina Tsunade has a 4 that's not much of a difference.

Neji's byakugan sees chakra so if she doses he can counter with gentle fist.

Your acting like if Neji is a distance from her his going to waste chakra trying to hit her Neji is a close combat fighter and is too smart to do something like that.

Im not talking about her with Katsuya she fights Neji with her own powers.

Experience means so much and you're underestimating that. Experience enlightens, gives wisdom, not just skill.

This isnt' canon but it's a lesson none the less the eternal genin, he knows the ropes, he knows how things are done, he's been around the block since the Second Hokage, he has years of knowledge and experience on his hands that aids him. Jiraiya and Orochimaru have things Naruto and Sasuke don't have even if they'd still loose to them (and Orochimaru leeched off of Sasuke, Sasuke took him down in a weakened state yet Sasuke was obilvious to Orochimaru still remaining inside him, Itachi defeated Oro, Sasuke acted as a vessel for the parasite. That shows you experience and learning from his mistakes as well)

Now Tsunade can hold her own with her creation rebirth for as long as she wants until she dies and she's not going to die in the span of one battle with a jounin, not in the time it would take for Neji to exhaust himself and end up loosing to her, that is a given.

Neji can't control his motor movements corectly if he's hit with her body pathway technique. He'll need time to figure out the movements of his body to know how to correct the issue just like Kabuto did and that is a huge halting factor for him.

Constantly trying to get to her, avoiding her attempts to launche bolder sized sections of earth and what not are.

Rotation isn't going to be something he can keep doing forever and here's a scinerio for you. if he begins rotation, if she launches a punch to the ground, what stops him from loosing his balance?

Katsuya is part of Tsunade's weaponry, she can use her if she want. IF Tsunade uses Katsuya, Neji is done as well

IF Tsunade uses her creation rebirth, Neji is done as well because she can keep it active long enough to fight him and defeat him and if he gets close enough to her to be hit, which he'll need to do, IN ORDER TO hit her, he's done as well.
 

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I Would like to See where your Getting this From.

I Can't remember it being Said Anywhere that Chakra Cancels out Other chakra Based Attacks.
Nor That Taijutsu Doesn't/Can't Break Chakra

That's because it's simple logic like i said before that would be like Tsunade's punch destroys rasengan.
 

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That's because it's simple logic like i said before that would be like Tsunade's punch destroys rasengan.

Simple Logic my ass.

Chakra Cancels Out chakra Isn't Logic, Thats just baseless Crap, It's like Saying a water Jutsu would Cancel Other Water Type Jutsu's.

Also Saying Taijutsu Can't Break Chakra is Also baseless, To me it seems like you're just Pulling this stuff out of your ass just to make Tsunade lose.
 

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Experience means so much and you're underestimating that. Experience enlightens, gives wisdom, not just skill.

This isnt' canon but it's a lesson none the less the eternal genin, he knows the ropes, he knows how things are done, he's been around the block since the Second Hokage, he has years of knowledge and experience on his hands that aids him. Jiraiya and Orochimaru have things Naruto and Sasuke don't have even if they'd still loose to them (and Orochimaru leeched off of Sasuke, Sasuke took him down in a weakened state yet Sasuke was obilvious to Orochimaru still remaining inside him, Itachi defeated Oro, Sasuke acted as a vessel for the parasite. That shows you experience and learning from his mistakes as well)

Now Tsunade can hold her own with her creation rebirth for as long as she wants until she dies and she's not going to die in the span of one battle with a jounin, not in the time it would take for Neji to exhaust himself and end up loosing to her, that is a given.

Neji can't control his motor movements corectly if he's hit with her body pathway technique. He'll need time to figure out the movements of his body to know how to correct the issue just like Kabuto did and that is a huge halting factor for him.

Constantly trying to get to her, avoiding her attempts to launche bolder sized sections of earth and what not are.

Rotation isn't going to be something he can keep doing forever and here's a scinerio for you. if he begins rotation, if she launches a punch to the ground, what stops him from loosing his balance?

Katsuya is part of Tsunade's weaponry, she can use her if she want. IF Tsunade uses Katsuya, Neji is done as well

IF Tsunade uses her creation rebirth, Neji is done as well because she can keep it active long enough to fight him and defeat him and if he gets close enough to her to be hit, which he'll need to do, IN ORDER TO hit her, he's done as well.

All i have to say to that is Overall Power > Experience.

Tsunade is 55 if she keeps shortning her life span at her already old age she's going to die eventually im not sure if it will be before or after Neji losses all his stamina but it's possible before.

I already told you he wont that's what byakugan is for besides Neji is a expert when it comes to knowing what vital points would stop your chakra flow and enable you to move.

Neji can jump and dodge those things or take the battle to another location.

Jumping.

Well i never said Katsuya was allowed.
 

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Simple Logic my ass.

Chakra Cancels Out chakra Isn't Logic, Thats just baseless Crap, It's like Saying a water Jutsu would Cancel Other Water Type Jutsu's.

Also Saying Taijutsu Can't Break Chakra is Also baseless, To me it seems like you're just Pulling this stuff out of your ass just to make Tsunade lose.

Sure the water jutsu would if there both equal in power.

If it's baseless how come you haven't told me why it can? Tsunade does lose but it would be high diff.
 

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My assessment (purely conjectures)
Neji Vs tsunade would be at close range both have not shown any particular form of nin or gen jutsu so fight would primary be taijustu

Tsunade focuses on brute strength and high stamina (exhibited when she was beating the living hell out of orochimaru during her and J-mans fight with Oro) Her medical ninjutsu is superb and her body pathway derangement even stunted someone as smart as a "bookworm" like kabuto for a while ( and even though neji is a jounin he isnt smarter than kabuto) So its safe to assume should her taijutsu should fail for some reason and her speed cant keep up with Neji for another reason she would use aggressive medical ninjutsu like a chakra scapel.
Her Yin seal release and healing abilities ( on herself) are on par with even the firsts healing Tsunades age alone and experience is enough to warrant success but lets look a little deeper


Neji focuses on the use of his Byakugan to do combo taijutsu attacks (8 trigrams and all his gentle fist moves seem to require 2-X fast pased hits) Nejis speed is admirable and his rotation defense has been compared to even the likes of gaaras sand defense. The byakugans NEAR 360 degree vision is amazing and the radius is even better. Nejis ability to emit chakra from all chakra points in his body near eliminates the threat of a chakra based attack


The fight would start of course exchanging blows Neji would be using his byakugan and gentle fist Emitting chakra from his chakra poitns on hands Neji being aware of Tsunades remarkable strength would of course go for chakra point however his necessity to hit 2-3 times to be effective is against him as tsunade's speed and evasion would probably at most warrant 1 strike, so unless that striek hit tsunade in a vital organ she would live and counter. All she would need is 1 good strike to place neji in his place and with her speed it shouldnt be to hard. Even if neji did jump he hasnt shown that great fo acrobatics in the air. in fact instead of jumping from kidomarus arrow he took it head on because he couldnt dodge it. how is he gonna dodge something coming at him about the same speed from up close? (tsunades punch/kick/tits)

Now unless neji hits a part of her that help her aging chakra and her body rapidly went back to a frail state I would say tsunade gets this for those arguing her age well she is a descendant of the Uzumaki and senju clan so naturally her life span is going to be longer and her life force is much stronger than that of the hyuga clan

her strength and experience alone is phenomenal and being a hokage im sure she is aware of the byakugans weakness
 
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Sure the water jutsu would if there both equal in power.

If it's baseless how come you haven't told me why it can? Tsunade does lose but it would be high diff.

Kakashi's and Zabuza Use the Exact Same Jutsu.
Yet Kakashi's Came out on Top.

The Manga Has Never shown Nor even Hinted that Chakra Cancels out Chakra, As i Said Your Just Throwing Out a Guess at Best.

Also if That Was True, Susanoo would be invincible in Any Form, Susanoo is Formed Out of Chakra.
Raikaged Punch and Tsunade's Punch Has Cracked it, Danzo's Wind Jutsu Tore it Apart.

Also Again Going by Your Logic, TBB is Made up of Chakra also, Does this Mean Rotation can Cancel it out? (LOL).
 

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My assessment (purely conjectures)
Neji Vs tsunade would be at close range both have not shown any particular form of nin or gen jutsu so fight would primary be taijustu

Tsunade focuses on brute strength and high stamina (exhibited when she was beating the living hell out of orochimaru during her and J-mans fight with Oro) Her medical ninjutsu is superb and her body pathway derangement even stunted someone as smart as a "bookworm" like kabuto for a while ( and even though neji is a jounin he isnt smarter than kabuto) So its safe to assume should her taijutsu should fail for some reason and her speed cant keep up with Neji for another reason she would use aggressive medical ninjutsu like a chakra scapel.
Her Yin seal release and healing abilities ( on herself) are on par with even the firsts healing Tsunades age alone and experience is enough to warrant success but lets look a little deeper


Neji focuses on the use of his Byakugan to do combo taijutsu attacks (8 trigrams and all his gentle fist moves seem to require 2-X fast pased hits) Nejis speed is admirable and his rotation defense has been compared to even the likes of gaaras sand defense. The byakugans NEAR 360 degree vision is amazing and the radius is even better. Nejis ability to emit chakra from all chakra points in his body near eliminates the threat of a chakra based attack


The fight would start of course exchanging blows Neji would be using his byakugan and gentle fist Emitting chakra from his chakra poitns on hands Neji being aware of Tsunades remarkable strength would of course go for chakra point however his necessity to hit 2-3 times to be effective is against him as tsunade's speed and evasion would probably at most warrant 1 strike, so unless that striek hit tsunade in a vital organ she would live and counter. All she would need is 1 good strike to place neji in his place and with her speed it shouldnt be to hard. Even if neji did jump he hasnt shown that great fo acrobatics in the air. in fact instead of jumping from kidomarus arrow he took it head on because he couldnt dodge it. how is he gonna dodge something coming at him about the same speed from up close? (tsunades punch/kick/tits)

Now unless neji hits a part of her that help her aging chakra and her body rapidly went back to a frail state I would say tsunade gets this for those arguing her age well she is a descendant of the Uzumaki and senju clan so naturally her life span is going to be longer and her life force is much stronger than that of the hyuga clan

her strength and experience alone is phenomenal and being a hokage im sure she is aware of the byakugans weakness

I must say. This is well done. Its also pretty much what I think would happen in this battle. +rep

EDIT/BOLDED: OMG I just noticed that!xd Imagine Neji being taken out by her massive tits! xd
 

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All i have to say to that is Overall Power > Experience.

Tsunade is 55 if she keeps shortning her life span at her already old age she's going to die eventually im not sure if it will be before or after Neji losses all his stamina but it's possible before.

I already told you he wont that's what byakugan is for besides Neji is a expert when it comes to knowing what vital points would stop your chakra flow and enable you to move.

Neji can jump and dodge those things or take the battle to another location.

Jumping.

Well i never said Katsuya was allowed.

If you say overall power > Experience...Tsunade still wins by that logic because Tsunade is superior in her power. I don't mean physically I mean as a shinobi overall.

Tsunade will be using her Creation Rebirth is on a lower scale of focus on her. You seem to forget when she used the jutsu one everybody in the entire village and didn't collaps immediately after and she still lived. Do you know what that says? She used the technique on everybody in the village and still lived, now she's refining it to just herself, she can hold that technique for a long time. It's like the shadow clone technique.

Naruto would be able to fight longer if he never used Shadow Clones, Tsunade refines the technique to just herself she can use that technique longer as we've seen her constatnly in healing several shinobi during Pains attack and use the technique to prevent the deaths of several others through Katsuya. Tsunade isn't going to die if she activates that technique in battle, she just isn't not in a fight against somebody like Neji.

Neji is in no way a physical expert in the way the body works. Tsunade's technique utilizes electrical impulses and disorients the body's motor movements. Neji isn't going to see or know the anatomy of the body well enough to figure it out immediately. Byakugan allows him to see where chakra points of the body are not make him a marvolous expert on the human body. Tsunade's technique doesn't prevent him from moving it confuses the motor movements. Example he goes to move his foot, he twitches his finger or he tries to move his arm and he moves his knee on the opposite leg. He'll need to take the time to look and see inside his own flow of chakra to know what's going on and then find a way to deal with it. In the time it takes him to do that Tsunade does him in so if he's hit with that technique Tsunade has all the room she needs to finish him.

If Neji is spinning rapidly, his focus is on movement in that circle he's not going to stop fast enough to leap up if Tsunade decides to strike the earth while he's spinning.

If you take Katsuya away then you're taking away one of her weapons and you're adding your own bias to allow Neji to win. If she can't use Katsuya then Neji can't see inside Tsunade's body to know where to strike her with his gentle fist...how does that sound?
 

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Kakashi's and Zabuza Use the Exact Same Jutsu.
Yet Kakashi's Came out on Top.

The Manga Has Never shown Nor even Hinted that Chakra Cancels out Chakra, As i Said Your Just Throwing Out a Guess at Best.

Also if That Was True, Susanoo would be invincible in Any Form, Susanoo is Formed Out of Chakra.
Raikaged Punch and Tsunade's Punch Has Cracked it, Danzo's Wind Jutsu Tore it Apart.

Also Again Going by Your Logic, TBB is Made up of Chakra also, Does this Mean Rotation can Cancel it out? (LOL).

No they didn't Kakashi used his water vortex before Zabuza did.

Suasno isn't formed out of pure chakra like the rotation the susano is solid so if someone has taijutsu that's very very very powerful they can maybe break a rib.

No that's only when there equal power like i already said.
 

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If you say overall power > Experience...Tsunade still wins by that logic because Tsunade is superior in her power. I don't mean physically I mean as a shinobi overall.

Tsunade will be using her Creation Rebirth is on a lower scale of focus on her. You seem to forget when she used the jutsu one everybody in the entire village and didn't collaps immediately after and she still lived. Do you know what that says? She used the technique on everybody in the village and still lived, now she's refining it to just herself, she can hold that technique for a long time. It's like the shadow clone technique.

Naruto would be able to fight longer if he never used Shadow Clones, Tsunade refines the technique to just herself she can use that technique longer as we've seen her constatnly in healing several shinobi during Pains attack and use the technique to prevent the deaths of several others through Katsuya. Tsunade isn't going to die if she activates that technique in battle, she just isn't not in a fight against somebody like Neji.

Neji is in no way a physical expert in the way the body works. Tsunade's technique utilizes electrical impulses and disorients the body's motor movements. Neji isn't going to see or know the anatomy of the body well enough to figure it out immediately. Byakugan allows him to see where chakra points of the body are not make him a marvolous expert on the human body. Tsunade's technique doesn't prevent him from moving it confuses the motor movements. Example he goes to move his foot, he twitches his finger or he tries to move his arm and he moves his knee on the opposite leg. He'll need to take the time to look and see inside his own flow of chakra to know what's going on and then find a way to deal with it. In the time it takes him to do that Tsunade does him in so if he's hit with that technique Tsunade has all the room she needs to finish him.

If Neji is spinning rapidly, his focus is on movement in that circle he's not going to stop fast enough to leap up if Tsunade decides to strike the earth while he's spinning.

If you take Katsuya away then you're taking away one of her weapons and you're adding your own bias to allow Neji to win. If she can't use Katsuya then Neji can't see inside Tsunade's body to know where to strike her with his gentle fist...how does that sound?

But if Neji catches her in his 64 palms her chakra would be damaged creation rebirth just stops injuries, I dont remember it ever giving her more chakra.

That's true the byakugan lets him see vital points my bad on that part but Neji can still see Tsunade's chakra scapels he wouldn't let himself get hit with it he can use gentle fist on it or if his a distance he can use vacuum palm.

How is Neji spining rapidly? Is you talking about him using rotation? Like i said before if Tsunade punches the ground Neji jumps and even if Tsunade trys to go after him vacuum palm.

Katsuya techs are Katsuya's techs Neji's techs are Neji's techs so you cant take away Neji's techs because those are his.
 
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