Neji vs Sakura
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You know I am actually wrong she didn't surpassed her but she matched her or at the same level simply because:give me an evidence that proves that she surpassed Tsunade
Both of them has the same regeneration powers
- yin seal and byakogou
- Katsuyu
So no one is stronger than the other
But still Sakura is stronger than Neji
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actually , Tsunade has superior Taijutsu skills ,You know I am actually wrong she didn't surpassed her but she matched her or at the same level simply because:
Both of them has the same regeneration powers
- yin seal and byakogou
- Katsuyu
So no one is stronger than the other
But still Sakura is stronger than Neji
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her skills at Taijutsu according to Databook is 5
and nothing suggest that Sakura have surpassed her in Taijutsu (in fact , nothing suggest that her Taijutsu have improved in the first place , lol ),
Sakura has a powerful CES , no denying in that , but that not going to help her if she can't land a hit
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First of all, the 4th data book had never stated any feats or stats for any character so what you are saying is something from the third data book :elmo: which is true however since kishi didn't write any stats for War arc Sakura then you shouldn't really compared tsunade to the version of Sakura that didn't have the yin seal.......
Yes becoz who is the kage lvl ninja here.Kidomaru right :lol [
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]Sasori's weapons are laced with poison.He was on another tier compared to kidomaru
Yes he was doesn't changes others have kept on fighting despite getting stabbed.Tsunade with Byakugou has with 2 susanoo sword in her abdomen;Itachi despite being on deathbed;same for kimimaro
sakura herself when she was stabbed by both sasori or by Madara
don't care about kishimoto's fetishes(I just want to know , why Kishimoto love to pierce Neji ? :hmm
anyway , I might be wrong , what do you think ? :hmm:
Yes it does but neither does it change the fact his target was kidomaru was freefalling while hitting brancehes
and your point is moot when sakura can cover almost twice distance by jumping
what you are saying is genin neji by end of part 1 is faster than sakura EOS Sakura despite sakura having better feat after activating the Byakugou seal
402 actually but yes
Since she has better feats after she activated the seal.
And all the that becoz before activating Byakugou she need edto focus considerable amount of her chakra continiously to forehead for a long time without stopping
then yeah should be posting feats you know you just can't post lee was one of the most powerfull genins in part 1 he rolfstomp others in part becoz he would be stronger
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not my point . my point is that Neji when he was 13 years old he was much more damaged by Kidomaru than Sakura was damaged by Sasori ,
Sakura had only some scratches on her body , and she had antidotes
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so poisoned attacks don't mean a shit
your point is..
I only said that Neji had stamina and speed because he was able to run meters so fast while being ****ed up , I didn't said that "he had the best stamina"
your point is...
Neji when he was 13 was totally ****ed up , with sharp blades were stabbed in his back , and two holes in his body
and he didn't have a healing ability
need I post the impact of the arrow with the maximum power again?
falling on branches or not , the dude have just ran 50m so fast when he was 13 , while being totally ****ed up ,
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imagine if he ran without being injured .
and also see how he evaded Kidomaru's attack and maneuvered him
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an @bold based on what ?
and also based on the Databook part 2 Neji speed > part 1 Neji speed
wait , does Byakuguo enhance speed ? :|
I take his character from the Databook , he didn't get much screen time in the Manga (he is not Sasuke or Naruto) , though he has still some impressive feats like reacting fast to Juubi hands
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other than that I can't say much
also BTW , one funny thing
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now I don't know if I should feel sad or should I laugh
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and he simply died like a fodder for a silly pairing , which is really hard to admit ya' know
dying in part 1 by Kidomaru was a much better ending for him IMO
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ya' know , I am really , really sick of this argument ,
any Ninja can one-shot with a Kunai , but does that mean that every Ninja can defeat Neji ,
Lmao , hell no :lol
Kidomaru can one shot with his deadly blades
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and he had 6 arms , so his chances of landing a hit is much higher than Sakura chances IMO
but CQC , is just "no" against the Jyuken
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because simply Neji could attack an opponent's chakra system directly with the slightest touch (hence the name gentle fist), and because the chakra pathway system is closely intertwined with many of the body's major organs, debilitating and even fatal damage can be done just as easily
while Sakura needs to prepare a forceful punch , Neji can kill with a touch
though I agree that Sakura have a chance if she managed to summon Katsuyu , but CQC is just "No" against the gentle fist , keep that in mind
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Becoz sakura dodged most attacks either with help of chiyo and later on by herself and the fact she healed most of her external wounds during the fight
If sakura was unable to dodge IS like neji was against kido she would have been a kebab
Yes becoz she tanked it with minimal damage and healed herself every time she was hit unlike neji
Poison makes sasori much more complicated than kido since taking hit from his attacks leads to instant paralysis which sakura overcame via antidote which she created that shocked even sasori
The point is moot considering the sakura he would be fighting has far more stamina than him[healing the whole alliance] and better speed feats
Which means what
Neji's feat was great: yeah no one denied it
Neji's speed is great:no one denied that either
And again no one denied he is fast
He would would have hit kidomaru like he did before so
Yes since kido is not even remotely a cqc fighter. He is zero feats that could react to neji on other hand here sakura has
Based on the fact she covered the whole distance covered by juubi fission she hit who is more than twice her size
What does this prove nothing. You can't say he is faster than certain chars becoz his part 2 feats>>>part 1
Releasing it should but I was not talking about that
Just when you activate the mark on forehead you don't need to keep putting your part of chakra into it thus strength of all your jutsu will increase
The reason she was able to cover around 90-100m in single leap or dodge kaguya's chakra arms in base
So did many in hyuga clan a few pages later and multiple shinobi's including hinata
Yes changes what
It is not my fault nor anyone else fault that kishi turned hyuga clan into pairing plot becoz hinata wanted D of a guy who didn't care about her
People liked her creepy char wanked the shit of it so yeah hyuga's were focused on as pairing device
Neji's death was going to be catalyst of hinata's growth that turned out to be confession and using a jutsu neji used 500 chapters ago
The biggest development that kishi talked about hyuga development turned out hinata getting wet over naruto so yeah if you think someone is blame along with writer then blame that fanbase who ate it all like it was normal and still wanks her when she is only above ino in k11 who is a team fighter but may defeat her in long range combat via mind transfer
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Taijutsu isn't the only thing that controls the fight....I wonder why the same thing can't be said to Neji ? Double standard I see
OT: Still there is nothing suggest that her Taijutsu skills have improved ,
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I still think that Sakura can beat him.....neji is strong but can't beat her.......
Sakura mid diff. She has too many tools at her disposal to count her out. Period. I have no idea why or how people sleep on Sakura. All of the Sannin's disciples became something enormously great. Naruto, Kabuto and Sakura all went full blown shinobi experts. Kabuto almost achieved god status. We can obviously see where Naruto ended up and what he has done throughout the story. Sakura was the disciple of the best medical prowess in the entire NarutoVerse and was the heir to Tsunade's strength... Neji was an off-brand Hyuuga. He's a strong character, don't get me wrong, but nah... You're reaching just to try to prove and grasp out of thin air how Sakura sucks. She doesn't. No character relevant to the story actually sucks...
that is really impressive from her , but that literally have nothing to do with the argument
I only said that Neji when he was a kid was more damaged by Kidomaru , than Sakura was damaged by Sasori , nothing more , nothing less
about the Stamina , I agree (I mean she has yin seal and Byakuguo :|)
but about speed ?, well not very sure about that , since we didn't see part 2 Neji at his full potential
that was not my point , my point was , he ran all this distance so fast when he was injured , imagine how fast would he be if he wasn't injured , and imagine how fast he was in part 2
Kidomaru states in Taijutsu was 2.5 , and Sakura states in Taijutsu is 3 . there is not a big gap between their skills
and it is true that Sakura only needs one hit , but she need to be skilled in order to land this hit ,
any Ninja can one shot with a Kunai , does that mean that any Ninja can win , Lamo hell no :lol
also Kidomaru can one-shot with his deadly blades , (if he strikes one of the major organs)
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and he had also 6 hands , his chances of landing a hit is better than Sakura's chances imo
but CQC is just "no" against the gentle fist
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because simply Neji could attack an opponent's chakra system directly with the slightest touch (hence the name gentle fist), and because the chakra pathway system is closely intertwined with many of the body's major organs, debilitating and even fatal damage can be done just as easily
just when Neji finished CM2 Kidomaru with Jyuken
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(now before you @ me , I know that Kido was not finished completely , but my point is , Neji was able to cause a fatal damage with ease when he got close to Kidomaru , and don't forget that Neji was totally ****ed up with many injuries and two big pierces on his body)
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] , Neji can kill with a touch and oh yeah , I forgot that Sakura can heal , but she needs chakra to do so , and Neji can just block the chakra points and game over
though I agree that Sakura have a chance if she managed to summon Katsuyu , but CQC is just "No" against the gentle fist , keep that in mind
especially if she are going against someone who is far superior than her in Taijutsu *cough* Neji ,
I mean Sakura skills in Taijutsu is 3 and Neji skills in Taijutsu is 4.5 , Neji is supperior by 1.5 , he can easily toy with her in CQC , just like when he toyed with Hinata and Naruto in the chunin exams
so wait , Byakuguo increases the speed ? , mm.. evedince ?
the seal was not activated when she dodged Kaguya arm or when she leaped
so wait , you are telling me that just by having the seal on the forehead , the strength of the user is already enhanced without the need of a precise chakra contol ?
evidence .. ?
and how does that increases the speed ? :hmm:
so.. ?
ok , but Neji when he was just a kid , and when he was totally ****ed up , was able to run 50m so fast , he would be as twice as fast if he wasn't injured , and he would be much more faster in part 2
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you can see here the distance between Neji and Gai
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Neji have just moved so fast in an instant , and the evidence that he struck Kisame before he landed
and also look here
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(yet neither Naruto and Hinata could just move their asses to dodge it :sdo
and don't forget that he was fighting for days , and as you can see here
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Neji is not the tybe who love to take a rest , and he was really exsuhstated
Sakura on the other hand
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so when she jumped here , she wasn't as exsuhsted as Neji was
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Sakura is fast alright , no denying that , but nothing suggest that Neji is inferrior since we didn't see him in his full potential
what I am trying to say is this
part 1 Neji speed feats =< part 2 Sakura
part 2 Neji speed > part 1 Neji speed (Databook facts)
part 2 Neji speed feats >= part 2 Sakura speed feats ,
it is true that Sakura reacted to Kaguya's arms , but Kaguya's arm was from a considerable distance
also , if she reacted to Kaguya's arm that doesn't mean that she can react to point blank attacks , because Kaguya's arm was from a distance , while CQC is another story , and that doesn't mean that she would be able to react to an attack that she would not be able to see it coming *cough* air fist palm , take in example she couldn't react to Omoi's kick because she didn't see it coming
, while Neji have reacted to many point blank attacks , (when he evaded Kidomaru's attacks, and when he rushed himself from a considerable distance instantly to sacrifice his life.... for a pairing -_- )
and it is true that Sakura had leaped 100m , but kid Neji when he was injured , was able to run 50m so fast , so based on logic and common sense , he would be as twice as fast if he was not so ****ing peirced with two big holes on his body , and also based on the databook , part 2 Neji's speed > part 1 Neji's speed
so he would be so much much faster , it is really hard to tell who is faster , since nothing about the speed was stated in the 4th Databook , and we didn't see Neji in his full potential
and even if Sakura would still be faster , there would not be really a big gap between their speed , Neji's speed and shunshin and air fist palm would manage to hit Sakura (besides that the location is the chunin exams arena , so there is not much space for Sakura to evade),
but of course it would not take her down since she can heal her vitals (heck she can even heal her heart :|) , but it would cause concussion that would disturb Sakura for while , while Neji take this chance to engage and 64 palms and game over
calm down bro , I didn't say that this was your fault :|
and I agree with you about Hinata , she simply doesn't deserve to be a Hyuga , she is really worthless and a shame , the situation of her clan is cursed and the only thing she think of , is "Naruto-kun , Naruto-kun , Naruto-kun" , and when Neji sucrifeced his life for the sake of her ass , the only thing that this ***** thought of , was how big Naruto's DAMN hand is .
but I can't blame the pairing fans , none of them wanted his death , but what bothers me is that no body gave a shit about his death , and I can't really blame them , the dude was really irrelevant in part 2 ,and he was nerfed to an extent , but oh well , it is Kishi's manga .
his character have died since part 1 imo , too bad , I only wanted to see Neji vs Lee
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There was really a lot of chemistry between the two , and bruh.. , please don't underestimate the Jyuken
and also I agree , I hate the Hyuga being a lame pairing device , I think (Naruto the Last) , would have made a great movie if it was more focused on the story of Hamura and the Otsutsuki clan and their relationship with the Hyuga , but nope , the movie was just a lame cringe moments , a total garbage
but I still have hope for them , in the next generation I suppose , since the main character(Boruto) has a Hyuga genes , but I don't really expect much
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If you can read the Manga and/or can analyze both of their feats with a unbiased and rational mind you'll know that Neji loses and that Sakura beats him mid diff, possibly mid-high, without Katsuyu and nothing higher. If you are biased and/or a fanboy or you just can't read the Manga then you'll argue for Neji. :lol
In close range all Neji can do is run away. Engaging her results in his death as he can't attack without her matching and overpowering said attack. Contrary to what some people think in this thread Sakura isn't going to be standing still waiting for Neji to jab her or hit her with his air palm nor is Neji so fast that Sakura won't be able to react and counter or dodge. :lol Neji needs multiple hits to the torso to win. Sakura needs one hit even if it's an indirect one. Neji can't attack without Sakura overpowering said attack(s). Tsunade opened a trench in the ground with a single finger. Sakura would be able to do worse while in close combat with this overrated mofo with a tap of her foot to the ground, causing him to lose his footing. That's not even talking about Katsuyu.
In close range all Neji can do is run away. Engaging her results in his death as he can't attack without her matching and overpowering said attack. Contrary to what some people think in this thread Sakura isn't going to be standing still waiting for Neji to jab her or hit her with his air palm nor is Neji so fast that Sakura won't be able to react and counter or dodge. :lol Neji needs multiple hits to the torso to win. Sakura needs one hit even if it's an indirect one. Neji can't attack without Sakura overpowering said attack(s). Tsunade opened a trench in the ground with a single finger. Sakura would be able to do worse while in close combat with this overrated mofo with a tap of her foot to the ground, causing him to lose his footing. That's not even talking about Katsuyu.
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You are the one who brought getting injured part.Sasori's caliber as a ninja is much higher than kidomaru.He took out whole village and the strongest Kazekage of his time
yes becoz everytime she got damaged she healed her wounds
becoz he died.You can't make his feats out of thin air without him showing it :|
Faster.neither you nor i do know by how much
yes thats the advantage she has.One hit either on the opponent or even indirect one could give her the victory
Kido did strike neji multiple times but neji survived.If Sakura does that even indirectly he is done
Not the case here.Kunai can't take out multiple juubi's fission or break v1 susanoo or break kaguya's horn
Tsunade with byakugou survived two gigantic sword stabbed in abdomen;Sakura TSB molded as rod in stomach
him hitting her changes nothing she tanks it either decimates him with whole battlefield
yes its no for kidomaru why totally outclassed in taijutsu and speed
the thing he had above him was ninjutsu and stamina thus long range is far more suited for him than cqc
yes which Byakugou nullifies.Onlything Byakugou can't nullify is closing of chakra point which would be impossible for neji since one hit from sakura takes him out either be punch or kick and that too indirect.Reacting to him isn't a problem if she did to kaguya's chakra arms
:lol does not change the lethality of gentle fist.Neji opted for Kill shot.Kidomaru was already damged by hitting the branches [
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] most likely becoz neji already damaged him via jyuuken by sending chakra inside him via his threadsomeone has healing here
yes 64 hits without getting hit once even indirectly not happening
Take an example of Chouji and Hinata.He thrashes her despite being below her in both speed and taijutsu
increases the strength of once jutsu.Seen when Tsunade's byakugou enhanced Ohnoki's Jinton larger than 25 complete body susanoo or when it enhanced tsunade's chakra scalpel enough that it cut susanoo sword
Nope the don't need to constantly focus the chakra on forehead since the seal is already formed.he reason her strenth increased to gigantic lvl after just activating the heal
since chakra control in shunshin would be more and precised considering she does not to focus a part of chakra constantly on forehead while using shunshin or CES
means thats not an awesome feat since you are downgrading his reaction to something anyone can do
no you can't say that.he would be just more faster than he was when injured
yes its somewhat less than 10m the range of vaccum palm
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For her yes it was fast but fodders were reacting to it [
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] even sakura before activating the seal dodged oneNaruto was exhausted from using sage mode [(yet neither Naruto and Hinata could just move their asses to dodge it :sdo
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] the reason they were protecting him and hinata seriouslyYou do know healing requires massive amount of chakra
and the one doing the healing is the same sakura without Bykugou seal
No one denied that but her feat was far superior.
Then there is the fact she reacted to and dodged chakra arm when she was already exhausted by helping obito in opening dimension :lol
nothing suggest neji was fast and his feats are inferior
Full potential is something that was shown in manga you making stuffs that it wasn't his full potential isn't fooling anyone :lol
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Nope by feats sakura was faster.The tier is the same.So yeah almost equal
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even kaguya being at considerable distance means nothing when naruto called it fast in RSM
Yes it means she can to an extant and thats all she needs
yes but Air palm isn't doing any damage to her.
Omoi's kick was surprise attack to her since he was sai's priority nor sakura could use cherry blossom impact sonce it would have damaged both naruto and sai
Part 1 Kidomaru's attacks are nowhere near kaguya's chakra arm
no logic and common sense says he would be faster not twice as faster.
Neji's feat was on a kidomaruo that was free falling while hiting branches sakura's feat was crossing against an army juubi clones crossing both war arc naruto and sasuke and even the juubi clone she hit who itself blowing others from the impact of her punch
you keep saying this but it was what was shown in manga nothing more nothing less
you yourself gave the distance 20m that gives massive advantage to sakura since she can easily use CES or summon katsuyu if bold is case :lol
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