Neji > Sasuke (chunnin exams)

[BenjerminGaye]

Takes one to know one.

as long as you admit that you are one

 

[shelke]

as long as you admit that you are one

You just came to needlessly bark here. How's that working for you?

 

[NarutoX28]

Sasuke saw it by focusing his Sharingan on it. His shocked expression shows he saw every single bomb. The reader was already shown the bombs through Obito.

Nice try.

Those aren't nano-sized, they're microscopic. Manga explicitly presented that Sharingan user's perception caps at a microscopic level, hence why Obito was unsuccessful in analyzing the venomous beetles thoroughly as it merely appeared as pure chakra:

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[BenjerminGaye]

You just came to needlessly bark here. How's that working for you?

youre barking back tho. You can't be condescending if you're replying on my level. You end up looking like a dumbass.

 

[shelke]

Those aren't nano-sized, they're microscopic. Manga explicitly presented that Sharingan user's perception caps at a microscopic level, hence why Obito was unsuccessful in analyzing the venomous beetles thoroughly as it merely appeared as pure chakra:

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That's what the manga states. Obito does seem to be analyzing them in the middle section?

youre barking back tho. You can't be condescending if you're replying on my level. You end up looking like a dumbass.

Condescending? Hardly. I am simply making an observation grounded in truth.

 

[NarutoX28]

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That's what the manga states. Obito does seem to be analyzing them in the middle section?

Strange how I never recalled Obito ever stating that in the Viz, but I was wrong there.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Condescending? Hardly. I am simply making an observation grounded in truth.

sure you are
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[Simbv]

Lol are you guys really arguing with this man saying that Sharigan can see tenketsu? When the manga explicitly states only the Byakugan can? Smh, y'all have better patience than me. Would have been stopped addressing him a long time ago.

 

[neosmith500]

He doesn't have the speed to avoid the Katon attack nor react in time to form Kaiten (if the distance is not great) as Kakashi had to go underground both times to evade it. Even then, Sasuke can use Fuma Shurikens and create ample distractions with shurikens and kunais to create an opening.
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The bold is literally based on ntn. Shunshin allows Neji to easily avoid katon neg diff , do u even know why Sasuke pondered where Kakashi disappeared to after using his Katon?? because there were multiple means of escape alternative to going underground.

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-No way in hell is Sasuke launching katon from close range without Neji being able to do something about it since Sasuke has to form seals the inhale/exhale before launching the jutsu much less not having enough time to form Kaiten when he'd see that see is gathering a large amount of Chakra to launch something from his mouth.

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-Fuma shurikens and distractions are easily nullified by Byakugan catching anything and everything Sasuke tries and u cant easily distract someone who constantly has his attention on everything going on around him within a 50m radius since Sasuke cant exactly divert his attention.


-U saying Neji wouldn't have time to form Kaiten is just laughable not to mention based on ntn.

You are definitely correct on that one. I forgot about the chakra arm incident and thought it happened after the cloaked one. Regardless, Neji didn't face Naruto in that form either, so, it was a pointless argument. The feat against one-tailed Gaara still holds though. I doubt it, as Sasuke would have just awakened 3 T regardless.
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Ur entire argument is pointless since its a manga-fact that Neji stomps 2T Sasuke with Kishi directly stating it , meaning all this talk about Fuma shurikens and katon being enough to deal with Neji is bad fan-fiction as Kishi noted that he stood no chance through Kakashi.

Just like Neji's attacks would be countered as well? The only Neji wins is when Sasuke does nothing. Haku was a Chunin class Ninja. Neji had yet to become a Chunin. One-tailed Gaara is well above that. Unless, I am mistaken?
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Neji reacts to sasuke's attacks while Sasuke wastes his chakra and tools meanwhile if it ever becomes CQC Sasuke gets raped.

Bold adds up to u basically saying Haku>>Neji in CQC which means that Wave Arc Sasuke>Haku>>Neji>>>Weightless Lee in CQC... when it took weighted Lee to stomp the crap out of him while he used 2T... I hope ur seeing where u logic fails because im tired of going around in circles with u so this is my last reply and u can believe wat u want.

I showed you that he can.
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I showed u Manga-canon stating that Sharingan cannot see tenketsu and it was even detailed as a special note while u brought ntn but speculation..

How? That isn't a fact either. It's your opinion too.

That a whole argument that im literally tired so no offense but im not about to go that route with a person who thinks CE Prelim Sasuke is on par with Prelims Neji when the manga literally says yea , NO..

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol are you guys really arguing with this man saying that Sharigan can see tenketsu? When the manga explicitly states only the Byakugan can? Smh, y'all have better patience than me. Would have been stopped addressing him a long time ago.

in his mind when you stop replying he wins. Ya know. Logic.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

in his mind when you stop replying he wins. Ya know. Logic.

That sounds like the forum equivalent of a "ricer fly by"

 

[neosmith500]

Haku who got stomped by Wave Arc Sasuke being above Neji in Taijutsu killed me..

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[BenjerminGaye]

That sounds like the forum equivalent of a "ricer fly by"

had to look that up on urban dictionary. never laughed so hard in my life.

 

[shelke]

Haku who got stomped by Wave Arc Sasuke being above Neji in Taijutsu killed me..

Where did I say that? Look, if you want to be adorable and start a little circle jerk to make yourself feel all good and fuzzy, do so blunty. It's kinda desperate otherwise.

The bold is literally based on ntn. Shunshin allows Neji to easily avoid katon neg diff

If the distance is not great? Absolutely. Neji's body-flicker in part I doesn't match Kakashi's (P-I). Don't be silly.

-No way in hell is Sasuke launching katon from close range without Neji being able to do something about it since Sasuke has to form seals the inhale/exhale before launching the jutsu much less not having enough time to form Kaiten when he'd see that see is gathering a large amount of Chakra to launch something from his mouth.

Kaiten isn't instant. It requires a good amount of movement. If the range is close, I cannot see him doing so as Kakashi, someone who is much faster, chose to go underground instead. Twice.

-Fuma shurikens and distractions are easily nullified by Byakugan catching anything and everything Sasuke tries and u cant easily distract someone who constantly has his attention on everything going on around him within a 50m radius since Sasuke cant exactly divert his attention.

-U saying Neji wouldn't have time to form Kaiten is just laughable not to mention based on ntn.

Nullifying them would create the distraction as Sasuke can easily launch an attack after the spin when he sees the chakra flow stop.

At close range? Yes.

Ur entire argument is pointless since its a manga-fact that Neji stomps 2T Sasuke with Kishi directly stating it ...

It isn't, really. When Kishimoto has given two contradictory statements.

showed u Manga-canon stating that Sharingan cannot see tenketsu and it was even detailed as a special note while u brought ntn but speculation..

That a whole argument that im literally tired so no offense but im not about to go that route with a person who thinks CE Prelim Sasuke is on par with Prelims Neji when the manga literally says yea , NO..

And I showed you a canon panel where something much, much smaller was easily seen. You, or anyone else, can ignore it as many times as you want, it doesn't change anything. Kakashi also claimed that Sharingan originated from Byakugan, when it didn't. Kakashi also claimed that 8th gates gives the power greater than a single Kage, and he was wrong there as well. Now what?

Suit yourself. You started this pointless argument. Not me.

Lol are you guys really arguing with this man saying that Sharigan can see tenketsu? When the manga explicitly states only the Byakugan can? Smh, y'all have better patience than me. Would have been stopped addressing him a long time ago.

So, a Sharingan can see nano-bombs, but it shouldn't be able to see tips of pin-sized openings?

Common sense has a lot to envy here.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

had to look that up on urban dictionary. never laughed so hard in my life.

I just read it now myself, that definition is hilarious. I was just thinking some kid in a loud civic hauling ass past some unsuspecting driver and then flashing their hazards like they won a race.... Urban dictionary's was much better

 

[InfiniteMugen]

If the distance is not great? Absolutely. Neji's body-flicker in part I doesn't match Kakashi's. Don't be silly.



Kaiten isn't instant. It requires a good amount of movement. If the range is close, I cannot see him doing so as Kakashi, someone who is much faster, chose to go underground instead.



Nullifying them would create the distraction as Sasuke can easily launch an attack after the spin when he sees the chakra flow stop.

At close range? Yes.



It isn't, really. When Kishimoto has given two contradictory statements.



And I showed you a canon panel where something much, much smaller was easily seen. You, or anyone else, can ignore it as many times as you want, it doesn't change anything. Kakashi also claimed that Sharingan originated from Byakugan, when it didn't. Kakashi also claimed that 8th gates gives the power greater than a single Kage, and he was wrong there as well.Now what?

Suit yourself. You started this pointless argument. Not me.



So, a Sharingan can see nano-bombs, but it shouldn't be able to see tips of pin-sized openings?

Common sense has a lot to envy here.

Kakashi sure was wrong there, 8 gates gave guy more power than all 5 :elmo:

 

[shelke]

Kakashi sure was wrong there, 8 gates gave guy more power than all 5 :elmo:

The manga has altered its statements. Nothing new.

 

[neosmith500]

If the distance is not great? Absolutely. Neji's body-flicker in part I doesn't match Kakashi's. Don't be silly.

Kakashi having time to soften the earth and dig underground obviously means he had time to simply Shunshin if he wanted to as the process easily takes far less time and Neji's body flicker doesn't need to match Kakashi to avoid it.

Kaiten isn't instant. It requires a good amount of movement. If the range is close, I cannot see him doing so as Kakashi, someone who is much faster, chose to go underground instead.

All Kaiten requires is for Neji to spin and a single revolution is enough to apply its effects so no , Kaiten doesn't take a good amount of movement to start especially compared to the prep time of form seals for Katon followed by inhale/exhale in relative response to Neji simply spinning before the attack reaches him.

-Kakashi choosing to go underground doesn't mean it was his only option and as i said before him using doton in that situation proves that he'd have time for a simple shunshin dash..

Nullifying them would create the distraction as Sasuke can easily launch an attack after the spin when he sees the chakra flow stop.

Why would Neji use Kaiten for shuriken when he can avoid them neg diff and/or block them neg diff with raw Chakra..

At close range? Yes.

At close range Sasuke isn't forming seals and launching katon before Neji shunshins then rapes him.

It isn't, really. When Kishimoto has given two contradictory statements.

Ur the one that isn't capable of comprehending the simple reason why kishi made the first statement while trying to use it to discredit the latter one when the whole reason kishi made the first is to directly address it later.

And I showed you a canon panel where something much, much smaller was easily seen. You, or anyone else, can ignore it as many times as you want, it doesn't change anything. Kakashi also claimed that Sharingan originated from Byakugan, when it didn't. Kakashi also claimed that 8th gates gives the power greater than a single Kage, and he was wrong there as well. Now what?

Kakashi said that the Uchiha can trace their roots back to the Hyuga clan which is true along with the 8 Gates meanwhile its a literal manga-fact that Sharingan cannot see tenketsu so u can continue to think that 2T Sasuke can accomplish this feat all u want..

Suit yourself. You started this pointless argument. Not me.

I simply addressed a wrong statement which doesn't make a lick of sense.

So, a Sharingan can see nano-bombs, but it shouldn't be able to see tips of pin-sized openings?

Common sense has a lot to envy here.

So 3T Kakashi says his sharingan cant see Tenketsu , but yet im to believe ur claim of 2T Sasuke being able to accomplish this?? When was Sharingan ever noted to view chakra with as much detail as the Byakugan?? nowhere , but anyway believe wat u want.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

The manga has altered its statements. Nothing new.

I was just observing you an neos debate.... I personally don't think ce Sasuke takes ce neji. He's not hitting him with chidori as Nejis not just gonna NOT notice Sasuke pulling back, doing the seals, and charging straight at him, and without cm2 he really has nothing to take neji out. His fast ass tai jutsu is based off lees... Nejis teammate... And even if Sasuke can out speed him for a bit he can't maintain the speed he showed in the beginning of the gaara fight for all that long. Neji on the other hand is always fast, already saw un weighted lees speed against gaara, and pretty much knows lees style, leaving Sasuke at his best at this point(speed and tai jutsu wise) at a disadvantage

Edit: I also think it's odd you take ten ten asking herself in the manga who's stronger as an indication of them being equal at the time seriously but completely disregard kakashi saying the sharingan can't see tenketsu(sp?) even though no one else in the manga has ever said otherwise

 

[shelke]

I was just observing you an neos debate.... I personally don't think ce Sasuke takes ce neji. He's not hitting him with chidori as Nejis not just gonna NOT notice Sasuke pulling back, doing the seals, and charging straight at him, and without cm2 he really has nothing to take neji out. His fast ass tai jutsu is based off lees... Nejis teammate... And even if Sasuke can out speed him for a bit he can't maintain the speed he showed in the beginning of the gaara fight for all that long. Neji on the other hand is always fast, already saw un weighted lees speed against gaara, and pretty much knows lees style, leaving Sasuke at his best at this point(speed and tai jutsu wise) at a disadvantage

Edit: I also think it's odd you take ten ten asking herself in the manga who's stronger as an indication of them being equal at the time seriously but completely disregard kakashi saying the sharingan can't see tenketsu(sp?) even though no one else in the manga has ever said otherwise

Never claimed that 2T Sasuke wins as a sure shot. Also, how does this analogy work? Both Kakashi's and Tenten's statements happen in part I, and not that far from one another. Whilst Kakashi's statement on Sharingan's lack of insight on this front was blown to bits in the second part.

Because of the nano-bombs argument. They are too small. If they can be seen than a pin-prick is no issue as the whole point Kakashi made is that they are too small to see.

Kakashi having time to soften the earth and dig underground obviously means he had time to simply Shunshin if he wanted to as the process easily takes far less time and Neji's body flicker doesn't need to match Kakashi to avoid it.

I thought you were done? Anyhow, soften the earth? What, he was giving it water? He couldn't do it in part II either and that was against a Katon attack that was at 30% its power. Why? Because it was from a closer ranger. People like Naruto, Sakura and Chiyo evaded it because they were far away. It's also a technique, where a simple release of chakra creates the effects to bury the user into the ground:

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All Kaiten requires is for Neji to spin and a single revolution is enough to apply its effects so no , Kaiten doesn't take a good amount of movement to start especially compared to the prep time of form seals for Katon followed by inhale/exhale in relative response to Neji simply spinning before the attack reaches him.

-Kakshi choosing to go underground doesn't mean it was his only option and as i said the before him simply using doton in that situation proves that he'd have time for a simply shunshin dash.

Never claimed that it will negate Kaiten or something. Go back and read the comment.

Kakashi chose it twice. I'll take the portryal of the manga over your opinion.

Why would Neji use Kaiten for shuriken when he can avoid them neg diff and/or block them neg diff with raw Chakra..

At close range Sasuke isn't forming seals and launching katon before Neji shunshins then rapes him.

Because Sasuke is capable of creating traps with them and using Katon in conjunction with them.

No, it doesn't.

Ur the one that isn't capable of comprehending the simple reason why kishi made the first statement while trying to use it to discredit the latter one when the whole reason kishi made the first is to directly address it later.

No, it doesn't work that way. Sharingan can see nano-bombs. Chakra points are much, much larger. You have no argument. The sole reasoning Kakashi had is that he cannot see them as they are too small. The second part blows that argument out of the water. That is all there is to it. If you want to accept that, then might as well accept all the other rubbish he claimed as well. But, gotta be selective.

It's even implied that Kakashi could see Naruto's FRS' chakra blades, which are microscopic as well. So, guess what? He just contradicted his own statement from Part I in Part II.

Kakashi said that the Uchiha can trace their roots back to the Hyuga clan which is true along with the 8 Gates meanwhile its a literal manga-fact that Sharingan cannot see tenketsu so u can continue to think that 2T Sasuke can accomplish this feat all u want..

It isn't as the Sharingan's roots lie with the God Tree not Kaguya. Kaguya didn't have it until she didn't absorb it. The Uchiha Clan and Senju Clan branched out from Indra and Ashura (two highly diluted lines), whilst the Hyuga clan was always there that branched out from the other brother. 8 Gates one is true? Are you sure?

So 3T Kakashi says his Sharingan can't see Tenketsu , but yet im to believe ur claim of 2T Sasuke being able to accomplish this?? When was Sharingan ever noted to view chakra with as much detail as the Byakugan?? nowhere , but anyway believe wat u want.

Keep on ignoring the panel.