(Negative Knight) Establishing why Sasori was one of the most OP Ninja (Debate)

[Negative Knight]

1. My claim is not a 100% full proof one, but neither is yours. We don't have specifics on how genjutsu works, but if my Jirayia vs Pain genjutsu argument isn't valid, how about Ichibi (I think is his name) capturing one of the paths in a genjutsu?

Also, I have one logic that I follow when sustaining my argument that he only caught 3 paths, because judging by how fast the other bodies got to Jirayia, it could have only happened after the genjutsu, because otherwise they would have been too close and would have been caught as well. I am not excluding summoning jutsu and that may be the only leak in my argument.

2. Sakura was more receptive to his movements than you insinuate. Yes, he would have died if not for Chyio, but a full health Sasori could be read by 2 non sharingan users. By definition, sharingan users can see faster movements.

I will agree with you that Chyio is FAST, but remember that she went for Kakashi with full intent to kill, yet he stopped he on time, even when we wasn't prepared. And Itachi is faster than Kakashi.

"His skills of anticipation can't possibly evade something as instantaneous as sound" - here my argument crusher here:
A veeeery weakened Itachi was able to intercept Kirin, a jutsu that uses lighting (obviously travels at the speed of light). A solid object (unless it's Goku) cannot travel at the speed of light (by logic) because its mass would be infinite. Therefore, the magnets cannot be faster than Kirin and Itachi at normal strength can react to it.

3. for you whole argument, all I can say is this: think how Itachi burned the whole surroundings when fighting against Sasuke. All 100 puppets wouldn't be able to escape for sure am I correct? So amaterasu is still a valuable weapon in his arsenal. I'm not expecting him to deliver his final blow via amaterasu, but surely he would decimate his opponent's numbers.

Check. Your move.

Itachi's Physical Exertion to control Amaretsu

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Whilst i agree about Amaretsu's destructive capabilities, i need to establish a misconception. In the manga scan shown above, its shows that Itachi had to maintain extreme concentration to control the black flames in order to burn down the fast majority of the forest, i highly doubt he could simultaneously move and manipulate considering the physical exertion it takes him for each individual movement of his flames.

Sasori's 100 Puppet Army and how looming the amount really is

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Along with Sasori's looming army of 100 Puppets, yes 100 seperate puppets acting, if even as little as one were to get through Itachi's Amaretsu, then he would be in no shape to dodge it. Immediately after using a MS technique, the user is shown to be weary, dizzy and prone to being hit relatively easily. This weakness could be manipulated all through out the fight against Itachi.

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Alright, now let's move on to discuss some other points.

 

[10023213]

lol ya'll turning this into a 1on1 debate tourn..

 

[Anub]

Itachi's Physical Exertion to control Amaretsu

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Whilst i agree about Amaretsu's destructive capabilities, i need to establish a misconception. In the manga scan shown above, its shows that Itachi had to maintain extreme concentration to control the black flames in order to burn down the fast majority of the forest, i highly doubt he could simultaneously move and manipulate considering the physical exertion it takes him for each individual movement of his flames.

Sasori's 100 Puppet Army and how looming the amount really is

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Along with Sasori's looming army of 100 Puppets, yes 100 seperate puppets acting, if even as little as one were to get through Itachi's Amaretsu, then he would be in no shape to dodge it. Immediately after using a MS technique, the user is shown to be weary, dizzy and prone to being hit relatively easily. This weakness could be manipulated all through out the fight against Itachi.

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Alright, now let's move on to discuss some other points.

All I can say is: just imagine how much money akatsuki lost on clothes...look at that! 100 dressed puppets. I'll tell you what: Sasori beats Itachi when it comes to spending money. Hands down!

Now on a more serious note, I'll be a bit busy for now, so don't expect my arguments yet. But don't worry they're coming

 

[Negative Knight]

So basically a battle between the two would start off with basic ninjutsu from Itachi while Sasori uses his Hiruko puppet. That puppet is very durable but Itachi should be able to burn the Akatsuki robe with his katon, then use an exploding clone to damage Hiruko forcing Sasori to use his puppet army.

I agree with how this would go, but i'm not sure if Hiruko would be broken that easily. It might be a slight underration of Sakura's capabilities to assume anything can break through his durable armour.

Here things would get very interesting. Itachi is one of the fastest characters in the manga and possesses the fastest hand seal speed. This will allow him to dodge poisonous attacks pretty easily and if in the event he can't, Itachi could use a water release technique to dispatch any weapons that come near him or just hit them with his shuriken. Also Itachi's shuriken mastery will allow him to cut Sasori's chakra strings momentarily whenever he wants to thereby slowing Sasori's moves down considerably.

That's an interesting point you raise about the Shuriken cutting the chakra strings, but this would be an exception. Considering Itachi is someone he would in no way underrate i'm sure Sasori would use his strongest puppet, the 3rd Kazekage.

Its magnetization abilities mean Iron and Steel weapons would be plain ineffective due to his natural immunity to metallic weapons.

This is clearly explained by what Chiyo stated to Sakura, probably letting her know that Shuriken and Kunai would only serve to backfire.

Chiyo claiming Sasori was immune to Metal Weapons

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As for countering iron sand which exceeds the sound barrier. Well I think you are either underrating Itachi's speed and reflexes if you think he will be hopeless against an attack that breaks the sound barrier. I say this because part 1 Temari was able to react to sound waves, RIGHT IN HER FACE and I do believe Itachi should have much better reflexes than even current Temari so logically speaking, he should be able to use a water dragon bullet, a clone feint or simply jump out of the way.

Itachi might be able to dodge the Iron Sand Bullets, but i highly doubt the same principle would apply to Iron Sand World Order for these reasons stated earlier.

"With the addition of Iron Sand to his arsenal, he has seemingly constructed an entirely new fighting style with the inclusion of Iron Sand bullets which for most are impossible to dodge and Iron Sand World Order, which in my opinion surpasses even Amaretsu's capability for destruction.

Due to being a product of magnetism's repulsive forces, it acts in such a way that can't be anticipated by anyone not even the user themselves. The forces interact in several ways, most likely producing a uniquely different shape every time effectively negating even the best of reflexes. Ordinary acts can be anticipated due to following some sort of linear pattern with each use but magnetism's sporadic nature completely negates this, at a simple turn an offensive can come out of nowhere."

Sporadic Nature of Iron Sand deeming it unpredictable

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Once the Kazekage puppet comes out though, Itachi will need to use amaterasu, susanoo or both in order to deal with it because his basic arsenal of ninjutsu will simply be blocked. Sasori will have to cover the Kazekage puppet with iron sand or else Itachi could just lay waste to it. Since Itachi is very fast, he may just find another position from where he can use amaterasu to finish the puppet. It is very likely though that Itachi will need to use susanoo to counter the iron sand and its various wide AoE attacks so it would be illogical to assume that Itachi won't need to use it.

Amaretsu seems to be a stationary attack, by the time Itachi realizes this puppet is a threat, i highly doubt he could use Amaretsu on it (he would need to remain mobile to avoid the Iron Sand assaults).

If he did decide to use Amaretsu on the puppet, he would be left open to an attack. Sasori could easily dispatch Itachi with his 100 Puppets (in Itachi's recovery time), simply his own Fire Release to land a direct attack or even use his own modifications to his body such as his poisoned rope assualt, which was far too fast for Sakura to even react to slightly. A weakened Itachi (from the use of Amaretsu) would be around her level in reflexes, she's not that bad xd

Sasori flawlessly striking Sakura with his Poisoned Rope

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Also susanoo would go on a rampage and destroy most of Sasori's arsenal IMO. The main threat is poison gas and maybe scattered iron sand that may go underneath Itachi. If it does, Itachi will need to quickly deactivate susanoo and run away but at this point, his speed will have vastly decreased. Still I think Itachi will be cautious enough to avoid walking right on top of a trap but there are still high chances that he will be finished.

I agree with this, though this is highly situational given all the factors.

I think with Itachi's ability to see Sasori's heart, he should be able to finish Sasori with either amaterasu or totsuka blade eventually even if Sasori uses defensive measures such as iron sand or blocking with weaker puppets. Just take a look at how Itachi could drag the amaterasu

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by the black flames so I think Itachi could manage to destroy many puppets and iron sand won't be able to properly defend against it since Itachi activates it wherever he looks at. Also you should know that amaterasu can spread so it is capable of taking out a massive number of puppets. What if Itachi decides to encircle Sasori and all of his puppets in a ring of black flames?

Look at my counter to Anub's point on this, i can't repeat myself xd.

 

[Unbiased King]

As always, your threads strictly involve and are based on primarily facts, for this I commend you.

Thread: I've always looked down on Sasori as the guy who got man-handled by Sakura, but this argument makes me rethink this.

 

[Strict]

Negative Knight is talking shit, he's terribly underestimating Itachis capabilities, such as analytic skills, speed, usage of weapons and strong experience in all arts. Hiruko is no worth to talk about - One Magatama will crush it. I agree that the 100 Puppets and the iron sand which is formed into a large net would force Itachi to use Susanoo, but at best the full skeleton form will be enough to repel any of Sasoris techniques. Amaterasu is unavoidably for Sasori. Why should Itachi maintain his Amaterasu in order to burn all puppets? The skeleton form of Susanoo will be enough to grant him absolute defense such as offense against those puppets and Amaterasu will simply finish Sasori, since he is not able to react at something which appears directly before him and hits the heart, Itachi was able to detect with his Sharingan. The geometric figures Sasori is forming from his sand, will simply be avoided by Itachis speed. If he was fast enough to avoid a bunch of Kunai he shot to himself from a machine and can keep up with KM Naruto in Taijutsu, the sand, Sakura was able to keep up with, won't be a problem for him, particularly he has Susanoo to protect himself. Using the iron sand as an argument for Amaterasu is truly poor, since in fact not even Gaaras sand, which reacts on his own, could stop the real Amaterasu. Covering himself within this sand would just give Itachi a perfect opening to stab him with Totsukas blade. As I remember, the Sharingan can see through objects (Sasuke is seeing the snakes Chakra behind a tree) and Totsukas blase is the ultimately offensive weapon, able to crush and seal away anything.

I also don't see why Genjutsus won't work. Sasori is an incomplete puppet, a living human puppet with a chakra system with his heart as the center. When he opened the little door on his chest, we saw a lot of Chakra flowing through the body, what actually means that Sasori possesses a chakra system which can be manipulated. Sasori hasn't a brain in his head, but his heart is uniting anything Sasori needs to live, such as something like a brain or an other organ which serves as a mind replacement. Or how is Sasori able to even think if he hasn't a brain? He is however not a puppet but a human to some extent. So if Itachi will catch Sasori in his Tsukuyomi, a spiritual world which exists only in his mind, he will may appear as a human in there, where Itachi can exercise torture.

I'm sorry, but your fixing is full of flaws. Sasori is very powerful, but Itachi on a league above. He combines the Mangekyou Sharingan with the two ultimately spiritual weapons, his regular Sharingan and his various skills and talents he was even praised within his clan for. Even against Sasori, Itachi will find the smallest gap to use a deadly technique successful, I don't even believe that it will come to Sasoris whole arsenal, since Itachi will stop him even before.

 

[Negative Knight]

Negative Knight is talking shit, he's terribly underestimating Itachis capabilities, such as analytic skills, speed, usage of weapons and strong experience in all arts. Hiruko is no worth to talk about - One Magatama will crush it. I agree that the 100 Puppets and the iron sand which is formed into a large net would force Itachi to use Susanoo, but at best the full skeleton form will be enough to repel any of Sasoris techniques. Amaterasu is unavoidably for Sasori. Why should Itachi maintain his Susanoo in order to burn all puppets? The skeleton form of Susanoo will be enough to grant him absolute defense such as offense against those puppets and Amaterasu will simply finish Sasori, since he is not able to react at something which appears directly before him and hits the heart, Itachi was able to detect with his Sharingan. The geometric figures Sasori is forming from his sand, will simply be avoided by Itachis speed. If he was fast enough to avoid a bunch of Kunai he shot to himself from a machine and can keep up with KM Naruto in Taijutsu, the sand, Sakura was able to keep up with, won't be a problem for him,
particularly he has Susanoo to protect himself. Using the iron sand as an argument for Amaterasu is truly poor, since in fact not even Gaaras sand, which react on his own, could stop the real Amaterasu. Covering himself within this sand would just give Itachi a perfect opening to stab him with Totsukas blade. As I remember, the Sharingan can see through objects (Sasuke is seeing the snakes Chakra behind a tree) and Totsukas blase is the ultimately offensive weapon, able to crush and seal away anything.

I also don't see why Genjutsus won't work. Sasori is an incomplete puppet, a living human puppet with a chakra system with his heart as the center. When he opened the little door on his chest, we saw a lot of Chakra flowing through the body, what actually means that Sasori possesses a chakra system which can be manipulated. Sasori hasn't a brain in his head, but his heart is uniting anything Sasori needs to live, such as something like a brain or an other organ which serves as a mind replacement. Or how is Sasori able to even think if he hasn't a brain? He is however not a puppet but a human to some extent. So if Itachi will catch Sasori in his Tsukuyomi, a spiritual world which exists only in his mind, he will may appear as a human in there, where Itachi can exercise torture.

I'm sorry, but your fixing is full of flaws. Sasori is very powerful, but Itachi on a league above. He combines the Mangekyou Sharingan with the two ultimately spiritual weapons, his regular Sharingan and his various skills and talents he was even praised within his clan for. Even against Sasori, Itachi will find the smallest gap to use a deadly technique successful, I don't even believe that it will come to Sasoris whole arsenal, since Itachi will stop him even before.

Have you ever had a single debate without talking shit yourself ?

 

[Strict]

Have you ever had a single debate without talking shit yourself ?

We know that people can jump on someones bandwagon pretty easy, true arguments aren't even needed since they can fast be convinced. We just have to take a look at how both were portrayed. Itachi would fodderize most of the Akatsuki members, just as he fodderized Deidara and Orochimaru with ease, without latter two were able to go on their fullest. You know, that your scenario is unrealistic .

 

[Negative Knight]

We know that people can jump on someones bandwagon pretty easy, true arguments aren't even needed since they can fast be convinced. We just have to take a look at how both were portrayed. Itachi would fodderize most of the Akatsuki members, just as he fodderized Deidara and Orochimaru with ease, without latter two were able to go on their fullest. You know, that your scenario is unrealistic .

That applies to most people. Logical people reach a decision by considering both sides, fanboys remain on the side of their favourite character regardless. Which would you say you fall into ?

Itachi would fodderize most of Akatsuki mainly due to his versatility rather than being OP. He has at least one jutsu each of them can't counter, Kisame against Genjutsu, Kakuzu against Susann'o and so on.

My thread doesn't give a battle scenario and etc because it undermines the idea of giving counters. Sasori is one of the best equipped to fight Itachi.

A few more things. Why are insects immune to Genjutsu even though they have brains ? Is Itachi really as reckless as you make him out to be ? He doesn't seem to use Amaretsu and Susann'o straight off the bat. And explain why my counters are unrealistic.

 

[Strict]

No, I am logical and know Itachis limits to a good extent and I know that he won't reach them here.

I agree, Sasori would cause Itachi more trouble than other Akatsuki members, but yet he knows how and to which extent to use his powers if needed. Against Edo Nagato, he also used his Amaterasu and Susanoo quite early since he as an opponent was on a higher level than other ones - so why not using an Amaterasu which could end the battle immediately instead of trying more troublesome actions?

Hmm, I never heard about insects being immune to Genjutsus, but however, humans, just as animals can fall for Genjutsu and Sasori is a human who built his body into a puppet. Why insects are immune to Genjutsus doesn't play a matter, Sasori is not an insect, he is a human-puppet with a chakra system and an organ which takes over the task to think, too, since Sasoris mind is working just as a humans one. Sasoris immunity to Genjutsus is nothing but speculation, even if a legitimate one. Sasori has indeed a mind and can therefore be pulled into Tsukuyomi which works on a purely mental level. If Sasori was a robot moving on command,we could rather suspect him to be immune to Genjutsus. But here, you don't have any facts.

 

[Negative Knight]

Just there, you gave substance to my argument. Itachi used Amaretsu and Susann'o early, primarily for two reasons. Having unlimited chakra (granted by Edo Tensei and his no longer present illness) but fundamentally because Nagato was an opponent like no other. From that we can assume he only resorts to MS techniques in a dire situation.

I made the point about insects for solely one reason. Genjutsu doesn't affect them at all due to their brain's not containing the desired target organ in which Genjutsu uses as a medium to cast itself. Without it, its completely negated. Sasori's core is not a brain, it only has chakra that it streams through his body. While he has chakra, there is no target organ for any said Genjutsu to take effect. Without a means to cast a Genjutsu, by default it is negated.

I think we should move away from arguing about Genjutsu, like you said, both of us lack complete facts and we're simply going on logical speculation.

 

[Dat Ass]

I believe that Sasori could eventually get past Itachi's Susano'o. After all, it can't stay up forever, and if Sasori manages to outlast it - which he could probably easily do - then he would easily win the fight.

 

[Strict]

But insects also have a brain. I think the reason for them being immune to Genjutsu is simply that they are not relying on their brain but more on reflexes. They have a completely other point of view, just as it gets illustrated often. They're a lot of logical conclusions which have yet to be proven. The medium for Sasoris brain (or something else replacing his mind) is his heart, but I don't see why it should play a matter whether this medium is placed in his head, his chest or his ass. Sasoris heart is, just as a humans mind, the center of the nervous system and the Chakra. His body is just not feeling pain since being replaced with a puppets body which cannot feel pain. And btw, where was it stated that insects are immune to Genjutsu.

 

[Negative Knight]

But insects also have a brain. I think the reason for them being immune to Genjutsu is simply that they are not relying on their brain but more on reflexes. They have a completely other point of view, just as it gets illustrated often. They're a lot of logical conclusions which have yet to be proven. The medium for Sasoris brain (or something else replacing his mind) is his heart, but I don't see why it should play a matter whether this medium is placed in his head, his chest or his ass. Sasoris heart is, just as a humans mind, the center of the nervous system and the Chakra. His body is just not feeling pain since being replaced with a puppets body which cannot feel pain. And btw, where was it stated that insects are immune to Genjutsu.

Essentially your point is, his core acts as brain. While it streams chakra through out his body, the normal senses are negated. Can he see ? Yes. Can he hear ? Yes. However these are done through a non-biological means, his eyes are artificial, his hearing is probably his core acting as his consciousness. But essentially, the workings of his chakra system is a completely new realm to that of a human's.

Do you agree Itachi utilizes Ocluar Genjutsu as a medium to cast his ? So do I. However even Sasori's eyes are artificial, both this and his core having a different structure almost secure his immunity to Genjutsu.

Sasori's core can't be compared to a human brain. It doesn't require nourishment, it lacks the different components: the part which controls pain, hypothalamus (controls temperature of his body), the place which controls blood flow, muscle movement and all these things which contribute to the structure of our minds.

I don't recall where it said that, but i'll look around for it. Even then insects were just an example to convey this more easily as a concept, regardless the other principles of Sasori's body remain intact.

 

[End of Days]

where was it stated that insects are immune to Genjutsu.

i believe it was said by shino in an anime filler

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[Griffith]

Great Thread. Nice way to not downplay Sasori's capabilities ..

Sasori is definitely a bad matchup for Itachi but I think at day's end victory is decided on whether or not Sasori is impervious to genjutsu which isn't canon. Genjutsu is Itachi's go-to technique so nullifying it based on the premise that Sasori cannot be affected is all based on conjecture...but i agree that Sasori's anatomy does make him immune to genjutsu, but as far as proof goes..I really don't have any to support that claim. Also, Totsuka is lethal close range. Yata mirror + Sus armor is a tough defense, and Itachi could cause Sasori problems with Yasaka long range.

Sasori has been the victim of the plot, everytime he's been seen in a confrontation it's against Chiyo or Sasori, who know the weaknesses of his jutsu as well as the perfect counters. We have yet to see how he conquered an entire country or his capabilities against non-biased opponents and for this reason...he's the most underrated Akatsuki.

 

[Strict]

i believe it was said by shino in an anime filler

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"In the anime, the kikaichū are revealed to be unaffected by genjutsu because of their simple nervous systems." - Naruto episode 207

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[Tazzilla88]

That applies to most people. Logical people reach a decision by considering both sides, fanboys remain on the side of their favourite character regardless. Which would you say you fall into ?

Itachi would fodderize most of Akatsuki mainly due to his versatility rather than being OP. He has at least one jutsu each of them can't counter, Kisame against Genjutsu, Kakuzu against Susann'o and so on.

My thread doesn't give a battle scenario and etc because it undermines the idea of giving counters. Sasori is one of the best equipped to fight Itachi.

A few more things. Why are insects immune to Genjutsu even though they have brains ? Is Itachi really as reckless as you make him out to be ? He doesn't seem to use Amaretsu and Susann'o straight off the bat. And explain why my counters are unrealistic.

I wouldn't necessarily say that Itachi would fodderize Kakuzu. After all Itachi's Susanoo has weakneses after, unlike Madara's his lack a bottom. Which means he's susceptible to underground

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And due to Itachi's low stamina, and Kakuzu's ability to separate his hearts from his main body Amaterasu wouldn't even spell an end for him. It would also seem as though he has 5 separate chakra systems one from each heart. So that should a heart rejoin him genjutsu should be stopped. But I'm fairly sure, I'm preaching to the choir.

Kisame certainly doesn't get fodderized by Itachi, and with the level of intel they have on one another it'd be interesting to watch the fight and to see who wins. It could honesty go either way.

Hidan is immortal, though I suspect genjutsu would nullify him temporarily. Allowing him to be sealed with totsuka

In order for Konan to stand a chance she'd have to lure Itachi into a trap which seems unlikely.

Deidara too could defeat Itachi with a few different techniques. His problem though lies in underestimating the sharingan.

Sasori would fight on even par.

Tobi owns

Pein beats him as well.

Regardless. This isn't me entering the fray yet.

 

[Negative Knight]

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"In the anime, the kikaichū are revealed to be unaffected by genjutsu because of their simple nervous systems." - Naruto episode 207

, Was that Gif necessary ? Regardless, the two essential points remain.

1) He lacks biological eyes, there's no medium for the Genjutsu to be cast
2) His core doesn't act as a human brain.

Anyway i seem to be done debating with you. You're dragging on this Genjutsu debate even though we won't reach a definitive answer.

I wouldn't necessarily say that Itachi would fodderize Kakuzu. After all Itachi's Susanoo has weakneses after, unlike Madara's his lack a bottom. Which means he's susceptible to underground

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And due to Itachi's low stamina, and Kakuzu's ability to separate his hearts from his main body Amaterasu wouldn't even spell an end for him. It would also seem as though he has 5 separate chakra systems one from each heart. So that should a heart rejoin him genjutsu should be stopped. But I'm fairly sure, I'm preaching to the choir.

Kisame certainly doesn't get fodderized by Itachi, and with the level of intel they have on one another it'd be interesting to watch the fight and to see who wins. It could honesty go either way.

Hidan is immortal, though I suspect genjutsu would nullify him temporarily. Allowing him to be sealed with totsuka

In order for Konan to stand a chance she'd have to lure Itachi into a trap which seems unlikely.

Deidara too could defeat Itachi with a few different techniques. His problem though lies in underestimating the sharingan.

Sasori would fight on even par.

Tobi owns

Pein beats him as well.

Regardless. This isn't me entering the fray yet.

You've analysed how Itachi would do overall pretty well. Nice find of that manga scan, along with another one i have in my thread (Earth Grudge V2) he certainly has the range to use a counter like this. Thanks, i have something further to add to Kakuzu's skill set

I might analyse Kisame's fighting style further, he has a lot of potenial with his current moveset. Mizu bunshins will probably be the key to standing a chance against Genjutsu.

 

[Strict]

, Was that Gif necessary ? Regardless, the two essential points remain.

1) He lacks biological eyes, there's no medium for the Genjutsu to be cast
2) His core doesn't act as a human brain.

Anyway i seem to be done debating with you. You're dragging on this Genjutsu debate even though we won't reach a definitive answer.

Lol, if you claim something, you actually have to prove your assumptions. Trowing around with assumptions is not enough. Well, I'm not relying on Genjutsus only. Look on how big Susanoo is compared to a human. If Sasori would summon his hundred puppets which will take place as a group above Sasori, one swing of Totsukas blade would crush most of them. Just look how you compare these fodder puppets with Susanoo. Susanoos full skeleton form is already huge and can expand its radius with a huge blade it formed out of Chakra. Against Amaterasu you have however no counter, except from this totally biased one with the iron sand, which isn't a defense at all.

And what changes Sasoris non biological eyes or Sasoris core which doesn't act like a human brain (according to your assumption) in Itachis possibility to drag him into an illusion? Itachi is not casting Genjutsus at someones eyes, he uses the victims eyes as a medium for the Genjutsu to act on his chakra system and mind. Whether the eyes are biological or not doesn't change anything, they are replace the function of biological ones and thus are being a medium, too. And if you already started to enlighten us, you could probably tell us how Sasoris senses are working, like seeing, hearing and and how his mind is actually working, especially inhuman, because after all Sasori is acting like a human, just with an other physical shape which is representing his puppet body. Sasori doesn't have nerves, therefore paralyzing Genjutsu might won't work, but if you want to say, that Sasori, who possesses senses and a human mind and understanding, cannot be dragged into a purely spiritual world by looking into his eyes, you unfortunately have to prove it. Your believes however doesn't pose the main factor.