NB's View: Religion

[Multiply]

Holy shit I can't believe I just read that.

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[Omega]

I can understand where Atheist and Agnostic people come from. My thing is that we don't know everything and the human race will never know all things (as it says in the bible). There are a multitude of things that the human race does not know but I guess the sole mission is to acquire all knowledge and surpass any limits. However, tangible proof is a human construct created in our mentality and any claim without it is automatically dismissed



Atheist don't want to hear this and (some) agnostic people will frown at this then turn away. However, I also see this viewpoint as well. One of the main reasons why I believe in the bible is because of revelations forseeing events that are happening in the world today. However my thing is this, faith didn't come out of anywhere, it is human design to have faith in something, even if it is not religious. It didn't come out of thin air



This made me chuckle



From NB to Youtube to FB to Reddit, I see this all too much. Another thing I dislike is when atheist try to use certain parts of the bible to try and prove their point without understanding the text and then try prove the bible to be faulty and contradictory. The bible is not the only book (which has been heavily altered anyway) that deals with Christianity. That is what is just taught in most churches




According to the rules of debating, you cannot disprove a negative (something Christians don't see as a negative). So what I like to do, is ask for proof about things that come from the bible such as morality and faith. I don't really get concrete answers on here nor through the research I find, which gives me another reason to believe in the bible. It's crazy too, I was looking up chemical evolution (another theory about how we came to be) and was just laughing because of how absurd it sounded. Let's say it was true

"The first living things on Earth were prokaryotes with a type of cell similar to present-day bacteria. Prokaryote fossils have been found in 3.4-million-year-old rock in the southern part of Africa"

Where did the prokaryotes come from? How did whatever created come to exist?




I agree with certain parts and theories of evolution. The above is not one




I actually believe in the big bang and biblical text support it as well



It's not a theory but a fact however, it is only true for those who believe



Which is not how God works




And we didn't see evolution happen, however scientist study fossils and extract and review data to make logical conclusions on the process of evolution. I'm gonna sit here and say I'm a professor but I know the basics of it. Sodom from Genesis seems to have been found but I'll have to deeply looking into that. I feel like the proof is out there, as little as their might be



I only debate on here to kill time. I mean there's only so much you can say. Kinda tiring having to repeat the same thing over and over again. Like it says in the bible. There will be those who listen and those continue to do what they want. Not word for word, but you catch my drift XD

Yeah, interesting points here. Never heard the chemical evolution, but I agree with mostly everything you said. LOL, I don't like beating my head against the wall and my whole point in my first post was not really to prove that god was real but to show why believing isn't totally "illogical" like people make it out to be. I understand a lot of things about the earth, and you seem to know even more than me, but it is because of those things and other things that simply can't be explained that we choose to believe in god. I consider it a fact, but I use the word theory to show how twisted people's views are. When scientist don't understand something they make an educated guess (theory) and we're all like "Yep they have good understanding." My "theory" is that god exists but that is seen as illogical, uneducated and a way of explaining things I don't understand.....*sigh* again explain to me what a theory is.

 

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I consider it a fact, but I use the word theory to show how twisted people's views are. When scientist don't understand something they make an educated guess (theory) and we're all like "Yep they have good understanding." My "theory" is that god exists but that is seen as illogical, uneducated and a way of explaining things I don't understand.....*sigh* again explain to me what a theory is.

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Oh boy...

 

[Punk Hazard]

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Oh boy...

Man thinks a hypothesis and a theory at the same thing. Reminds me of when a preacher at my old church asked "If evolution is real, why hasn't this rock evolved?"

 

[Multiply]

Man thinks a hypothesis and a theory at the same thing. Reminds me of when a preacher at my old church asked "If evolution is real, why hasn't this rock evolved?"

Exactly bruh... It's the same as when people are like, "If we evolved from apes, why are they still here?!" That shit makes me cringe.

 

[ComplexCity]

Exactly bruh... It's the same as when people are like, "If we evolved from apes, why are they still here?!" That shit makes me cringe.

Relax, so he got his terminology mixed up. Don't come at the man when you still dont know what a homophone is :flakez:

Man thinks a hypothesis and a theory at the same thing. Reminds me of when a preacher at my old church asked "If evolution is real, why hasn't this rock evolved?"

Still waiting for dat proof :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Exactly bruh... It's the same as when people are like, "If we evolved from apes, why are they still here?!" That shit makes me cringe.

Ughhh that's the absolute worst one

Relax, so he got his terminology mixed up. Don't come at the man when you still dont know what a homophone is :flakez:



Still waiting for dat proof :bdpf:

Proof that morality is linked to our biological make-up which would suggest a biological basis for morality? Provided.

I recall asking proof for your claim that biology can't originate in biology. Where is it?

 

[ComplexCity]

Ughhh that's the absolute worst one


Proof that morality is linked to our biological make-up which would suggest a biological basis for morality? Provided.

I recall asking proof for your claim that biology can't originate in biology. Where is it?

I asked for the origin Hellen Keller. Never denied it's in our biological makeup, I said it didn't originate from our intelligence :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

I asked for the origin Hellen Keller. Never denied it's in our biological makeup, I said it didn't originate from our intelligence :bdpf:

I'm still waiting for your evidence as well.

I also linked a page that offers sources that would answer your question

 

[ComplexCity]

I'm still waiting for your evidence as well.

I also linked a page that offers sources that would answer your question

Which is all theory. The same link you posted also stated it comes from religion as well so it's pretty counter intuitive to your point :bdpf:

Morals come from God's word. My proof the bible and all of the people that follow the moral codes to this day


Still haven't seen proof of earlier humans/ ancestors possessing the intelligence for what is consider to be moral :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Which is all theory. The same link you posted also stated it comes from religion as well so it's pretty counter intuitive to your point :bdpf:

Morals come from God's word. My proof the bible and all of the people that follow the moral codes to this day

You use the word theory much too lightly. A theory is the result of years, and years and dozens of studies that gather facts and only below laws.

The Bible is highly flawed, so it's terrible proof. Also, that would require proof that God is real. Faith is useless.

 

[ComplexCity]

You use the word theory much too lightly. A theory is the result of years, and years and dozens of studies that gather facts and only below laws

You're one for semantics right?

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2][3][4] As with most (if not all) forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature[citation needed] and aim for predictive power and explanatory capability.

The strength of a scientific theory is related to the diversity of phenomena it can explain, and to its elegance and simplicity" -

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"The University of California, Berkley defines a theory as "a broad, natural explanation for a wide range of phenomena. Theories are concise, coherent, systematic, predictive, and broadly applicable, often integrating and generalizing many hypotheses." -

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Neither source gives a specification of time for it to be considered a (scientific) theory

That other link you posted was a scientific theory as well as scientist hypothesizing. Again, the wiki link you posted also mentioned morality stemming from religion which is counter intuitive for your reach of an argument.

The Bible is highly flawed, so it's terrible proof. Also, that would require proof that God is real. Faith is useless.

Bold is subjective and due to the abundance of your ignorance, but proof nonetheless. Last I read

"Neanderthals suffered periods of starvation and may have supplemented their diet through cannibalism, according to a study of remains from northwest Spain"

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Isn't cannibalism immoral?
I thought morality originated from our intelligence?

Seems like you're assumptions are getting more narrow, still waiting on your proof of the origin of morality :bdpf:


I asked like 5 times already


Wondering when Macho gonna come out the shadows....

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Letting other human beings predetermine and manipulate your views on what is above human comprehension is asinine as far as I'm concerned...and that's basically what religion is to me.

I don't think different about people no matter what religion are they...

I am Christian but I don't go to church or do anything for it.I just believe in God.

Sounds like you're just "spiritual" and not religious, then...unless you adhere to specific Christian beliefs about the god to which you're referring.

 

[Honord Sage]

They’re no atheist in fox holes, I have seen and Heard may an Atheist cry and call out to God in the battlefield when they thought they were going to die.

 

[lelerskates]

Religion isn't bad when you don't look at the "negative aspects".

You mean how man kind is literally killing itself based on opinions of different gods? Yeah i try to ignore that too *rolls eyes*

Religion is bullshit. Its only going to destroy us. I used to love everyone when i was young (and naive), but when i started paying attention to the world i started losing hope in humanity because of their grasp on something they have no proof of.

 

[Dark Sonic]

You mean how man kind is literally killing itself based on opinions of different gods? Yeah i try to ignore that too *rolls eyes*

Religion is bullshit. Its only going to destroy us. I used to love everyone when i was young (and naive), but when i started paying attention to the world i started losing hope in humanity because of their grasp on something they have no proof of.

Humans cause their own problems through the ages. WW1, WW2, etc.

 

[BlacLord™]

Man thinks a hypothesis and a theory at the same thing. Reminds me of when a preacher at my old church asked "If evolution is real, why hasn't this rock evolved?"

Bahahah.

 

[lelerskates]

Humans cause their own problems through the ages. WW1, WW2, etc.

Why dont you go back and read on WHY those wars started.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Why dont you go back and read on WHY those wars started.

I do know lol this is a humanity problem regardless.

 

[Insidious Smile]

God killed people. It says so in the bible.

So you being an atheist believe in the bible?