NB.. So I'm American..

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Wow....
I know the world hates America but sheesh!
Mizu, WHY!!!
This thread makes me feel so pathetic being an American! :(
 

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I mean in terms of people making derogatory remarks about large groups of people because they share one trait that they had no control over whatsoever.

Stupid criminal black people and weak willed women who are good for nothing but cleaning!
 

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"Good going"

Though, it could be both and even more, this internet abbreviation thing goes right over my head sometimes. It took me years to realize what -_____- was supposed to be. One day someone just did one that was so huge it broke page formatting and I was like, "what a long face... wait... A LONG FACE lol I get it now".

I don't know what the tangent tolerance is for this area. Guess we'll find out now!
 

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Whatever negatives America has, most places are worse off. And without America in the current Geo-political climate, there would be a lot more Totalitarian states. Without American ingenuity, a lot of everyone's favorite things (like the internet, ipods, f'ing electricity) wouldn't exist (or at least would have taken a lot longer to).

I wouldn't want to be a citizen of any other country, though I would consider living abroad for a while.
 

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Who are these "most Americans" you're referring to? Have you met most of our country? If not, how can you make such a generalized statement?

Things like "OMG" are used by teens on the internet, not just from America, but from all over the world. Its not a representation of American speech.

Gun laws are a big topic of debate within the US. There are tons of people who are fine with them the way they are, and there are tons of people who are strongly opposed to guns. Thats the beauty of an entire country consisting of millions of people. Everyone has their own opinions.




And we're the ignorant ones....
Dude don't act so high and mighty, I've been to your country and there are tv shows here where they ask americans simple questions just to see them fail That's the image you've got in the rest of the world. I already said that every country has his bad points. And in this topic my opinion about America was asked so if you allow to have my opinon as well.. The gun thing is rediculous you should give that up. It doesn't make your country safer at all. Look at crime rates of America and other countries who allow those kind of laws and compare them with countries who don't.

And about the warfare part, prove me wrong you have been in war since 1775 with only breaks of a few years. To supress, oil and trying to make Iraq democratic... The only wars that really can be justified were the world wars and the ones where you fought for independence. So try saying again that America isn't abusing power for their own good.
 

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Dude don't act so high and mighty, I've been to your country and there are tv shows here where they ask americans simple questions just to see them fail That's the image you've got in the rest of the world. I already said that every country has his bad points. And in this topic my opinion about America was asked so if you allow to have my opinon as well.. The gun thing is rediculous you should give that up. It doesn't make your country safer at all. Look at crime rates of America and other countries who allow those kind of laws and compare them with countries who don't.

And about the warfare part, prove me wrong you have been in war since 1775 with only breaks of a few years. To supress, oil and trying to make Iraq democratic... The only wars that really can be justified were the world wars and the ones where you fought for independence. So try saying again that America isn't abusing power for their own good.
I'm not acting high and mighty. I simply pointed out the absurdity of your post. You can have your opinions, but if that opinion is based on false facts then I'm going to point of the mistakes.

1.) Again, who are the Americans you're describing? Are they supposed to be educated? Or are they random people who for all we know dropped out of high school? What TV shows are they on and what questions can't they answer? What questions are being asked? The problem with making a statement like you did is you're basing your opinion of millions of people off of a handful. That by definition is prejudice.

2.) As I said before, guns are a hot topic in the US. Half the people are fine with things the way they are, half the people want them to be more restricted. I for one don't own any guns, nor do I have any interest in owning a gun. But at the same time I don't care if someone else owns a gun. All I ask is that those people are properly screened and those who don't meet the requirements don't get sold the weapons. But to humor you lets compare crime rates between the United States and the UK.



UK: 85.5517 per 1,000 people
US: 80.0645 per 1,000 people

So clearly the whole gun control thing isn't a determining factor in crime rates.

Now that doesn't mean gun control doesn't do anything. When comparing murder rates, the US (0.042802 per 1,000 people) is about 3x higher than the UK (0.0140633 per 1,000 people). So gun control is most likely a factor in that difference, but there are other factors as well.



The bottom line is, bad people are going to do bad things. If somebody is set on killing someone, they're going to do it. Regardless of whether they have a gun or not.

3.) Now you're bringing up a different point. I'll agree that America has been quick to send out our military to solve problems, many of which we probably should have kept out of. But thats not what you said before. You said all we have exported is weapons and death, which is an absurd comment. And forming an opinion on American individuals based on the actions of our government is unfair. I think the two party system we have right now is our biggest issue. We end up having to choose between the lesser of two evils, who most of the time end up doing the same thing the others would have done. But if you look at the American people, there are millions who are opposed to whats being done.
 

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Again, who are the Americans you're describing? Are they supposed to be educated? Or are they random people who for all we know dropped out of high school?
I don't even think dropping out of high school makes a difference anymore, considering the vast amount of information readily available on the internet and in public libraries. The show had like 10 random old people who didn't know who won the Vietnam war or some silly things like that.
 

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I don't even think dropping out of high school makes a difference anymore, considering the vast amount of information readily available on the internet and in public libraries. The show had like 10 random old people who didn't know who won the Vietnam war or some silly things like that.

What show? And who are the people? How old? Whats their background? If they're old enough, the likely don't spend much time with the internet, so their education level would be important.

Again, 10 random old people =/= all of America.
 

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I guess I should clearly state that I'm agreeing with you, haha. Using 10 random people on a show is not going to cut it in the world of factual backing.

Can't even remember the name of the show now, but I am pretty certain it was an actual comedy. Like the Colbert Report, but British.

wait here we go, **** me
 
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I guess I should clearly state that I'm agreeing with you, haha. Using 10 random people on a show is not going to cut it in the world of factual backing.

Can't even remember the name of the show now, but I am pretty certain it was an actual comedy. Like the Colbert Report, but British.

wait here we go, **** me
Funny video. xd

But ya, having a British newsman interview a handful of clearly stupid people and then splicing together their answers doesn't mean a thing.



LMAO Just saw this gem:

"In terms of the War on Terror, who do you think should be the next country to invade?"

"...Italy."
 
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I saw something along the same lines of that, but it was a social experiment to see if people will pretend to know stuff in order to not look ignorant. So this british reported went around asking people what they though about the rhinocerous going extinct in Egypt or something like that. It was completely made up, but people commented about how horrible it was including a college professor. They only show the idiots because it makes for some entertaining TV. People who judge people based on what they see on TV should take a step back and think about what they are doing. TV can be edited, so don't put too much stock in it. Judging a country based on a television show is an ignorant thing to do.
 

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Dude don't act so high and mighty, I've been to your country and there are tv shows here where they ask americans simple questions just to see them fail That's the image you've got in the rest of the world. I already said that every country has his bad points. And in this topic my opinion about America was asked so if you allow to have my opinon as well.. The gun thing is rediculous you should give that up. It doesn't make your country safer at all. Look at crime rates of America and other countries who allow those kind of laws and compare them with countries who don't.

And about the warfare part, prove me wrong you have been in war since 1775 with only breaks of a few years. To supress, oil and trying to make Iraq democratic... The only wars that really can be justified were the world wars and the ones where you fought for independence. So try saying again that America isn't abusing power for their own good.
The places in America that have more loose gun laws (conceal and carry especially) have less violent crime. It's a fact. Gun laws don't keep guns out of the hands of criminals. It's laughable to think that someone who would kill or steal would be dissuaded by a gun law. They just get their guns illegally. And if you're talking about Europe having less violent crime, I draw your attention to Europe's treatment of Roma people. They are attacked, vandalized, set on fire, denied work, etc. in France, Hungary, and Italy. And none of it is recorded as crime.

Every country uses it's power for it's own good. It would be stupid to do otherwise. Go back in any country's history, and you'll find the same exact thing.

As to the wars, sure we're in wars. You're welcome....all of Europe, the Pacific rim, former Yugoslavia, countless former banana republics who now have democracy. Anyone wonder why South Korea is doing so well? I think it's the thousands of American troops that kept the maniac Kim above the 39th parallel for the past 60 years, freeing them to concentrate on growing their economy and education. Way to show how informed you are about our Casus Belli.

I am an American, and proud of it. And again, you're welcome for the internet that you're arguing with us on.
 

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I agree with the above.

I'm not trying to say that I'm the most intelligent at my school, because I am not and most likely never will be. I'm in the IB Diploma Programme (go Google it if you don't know what it is) and the usually, around 1/3 of the class barely manages to pass.

I don't know what it's like in America exactly, but I live in Canada and things aren't so different here. All I know is that I'm getting the hell out of this country and moving to Europe as soon as I can >< I could go on forever ranting about Canada -.-

I don't have much to say on the topic of America, because I've been there a whopping 5 or 6 times and those were shopping trips. I agree with some of the usual stereotypes assigned to America, but that's because I'm desensitized thanks to the media xD
now whats wrong with Canada eh? its a great place. if you dont like it, well then too bad. (im canadian)
 
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