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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

@bold:you contradict yourself, learn how to start an argument before posting a reply, how pathetic.

it's only logical to say/call this plot this an element of plot, and naruto was meant to out shine sasuke at this moment. Sasuke stated "he would be a decoy" from this we can see that sasuke was the support in this chapter, it is irrelevant to say naruto is faster or > sasuke, although he has arguably more feats at the moment. All this thread was made to do is upset sasuke fans for no good reason, it has no bases or proof, the damage done to black zetsu was that of plot, angry hero = damaged target, you see in all shonen's.

On a side note: there is no point in true arguing one man's fiction, although it is enjoyable at same point, there is little to be desired from it.

And I recommended you take introduction to logic or ethics in college or your high school to avoid incriminating yourself.
I didn't contradict myself you need to learn the differences between what's a plot and what's a trope.

A plot is a series of events tied together in a story.
To point out one event as "plot" is hypocritical as everything that happen up until this point is by the result of plot.
 

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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

She flew immediately when the dimension changed. Sasuke wqs not ready for that. He was still a couple of inches away from her, don't act like Kaguya is slow either, she's Hagaromo's mother for christ sakes.
Sasuke have a EMS and Rinnegan to help him read movements and since there was gravity, he would be using all of his strength to drive the Chidori and I know she's fast, don't think I ever said she was slow. Just that Naruto is fast enough to strike her when she's at her full speed. Their attention was on Naruto since BZ was talking to him and Kaguya just stopped since Sasuke stopped attacking her . Yet Kaguya's reaction was "!!?" to Naruto's speed

Naruto's speed in KM was already compared to Minato's FTG speed which is instant, his yellow flash name and speed comes from his FTG speed and we see that in the Kakashi Gaiden as one Konoha ninja said they will see why he's named the Yellow flash and not to blink. BM is faster and Naruto's current form is even faster since it's SM+BM and both mode increases speed.
 
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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

I didn't contradict myself you need to learn the differences between what's a plot and what's a trope.

A plot is a series of events tied together in a story.
To point out one event as "plot" is hypocritical as everything that happen up until this point is by the result of plot.
And obito's death and naruto removing BZ, pretty much kaguya brain, in angry of the insult tossed at obito, Its a key event in the story?!

again you have no argument, take a class. SMH
 

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Re: naruto's speed

DWl even if the gravity was holding him down as u claim,sasuke cant rinn solo blitz kaguya before she swaps dimensions or swats sasuke himself,agreed??..or do u think sasuke could rinn blitz??..in the case of naruto he should multiple times that he can hang with kaguya no matter she does via god-speed,power nd tactics..Sasuke gets slapped in lava nd eaten by black zetsu DWL.. manga-FACTS
Heh, you keep telling yourself that.
My explanation was perfectly clear, it's neither my problem nor do I care if still can't understand it.
 

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Over all you can now borrow the Superman opening saying for Naruto. "Faster than a speeding bullet,More powerful than a locomotive,able to leap tall building in a single bound. It's a Bird it's a plane, No its Naruto the Orange Toad Sage"
 

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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

And obito's death and naruto removing BZ, pretty much kaguya brain, in angry of the insult tossed at obito, Its a key event in the story?!

again you have no argument, take a class. SMH
:vincent::vincent::vincent: Every bloody thing that happened in the manga is a a important event that's what separate a main story from a filler.
Obito rescuing Sasuke a key event
Madara Implanting Obito's eye to get way is a key event

So again other than being a Hypocrite why would you to point out one?

Next time when you attempt to insult someone try not to be ignorant hypocrite
 

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Lel that Waltz guy is mad. Kaguya is affected by her own power as well so if she was able to move the gravity effect was already lifted. Naruto even got up to try and heal Obito, which further proves the effect was lifted. If the effect was still in play Sasuke would have never even thrust Chidori in the first place because he would have been pulled towards the ground right when he got to her. Stay mad.
Good try.

The gravity doesn't entirely immobilize you [ ]. If Naruto and Sasuke could dodge her attacks and further to that, Obito and Kakashi were able to maneuver about to become shields for Naruto and Sasuke then it's entirely possible for Kaguya to dodge Sasuke's Chidori.

@ Bold: Since all individuals on the battle field were similarly affected: If the adjusted gravity was of that enormity that Kaguya would have never been able to extend her arms to shoot arrows as well. Essentially, you're exaggerating it however that does not mean the gravity would not have had an effect on Sasuke.

Lel I could chew every sentence of this try-hard post but that would take time which I don't have right now. So I'll leave points which I already have proved in the threads I listed

1. Sasuke's teleportation speed is lesser than Hiraishin's teleportation speed [the instantaneous speed] meaning his tech isn't instant like Hiraihsin.

2. Obito's version of Kamui [which he canonically] used for teleportation isn't instant since Hiraishin beat it, Madara was able to thwart it.

3. Kaguya uses S/T but she couldn't catch Naruto meaning even her tech isn't instant despite being a Jikukan Ninjutsu.




All the above confirms that the instantaneous Jikukan techs are the ones that use "Markings" for transport [Hiraishin and Summoning]. Sasuke's tech doesn't use the "Markings" for transport and is essentially slower than Hiraishin, meaning it's speed isn't instantaneous. Thus we saw in both scenarios that Naruto's speedblitz being faster.

You made the mistake of assuming Sasuke's tech being instant but it's acceptable since you were always slow Lol

@ 1&3: I'm not really interested in debunking anymore of your theories. The teleportation speed of all Space-time Ninjutsu are instant. What isn't instant and intercept-able are prerequisites for these jutsu and the Shinobi attempting to perform action after the actual teleportation is complete.

@2: Obito's Kamui operates identically to a hypothetical wormhole and that being the case I would only agree to it if you're comparing Hirashin to Kamui's warp torque and not the actual time it takes to transport a warped object across dimensions or the same plane, whether reality or Kamui's plane.
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A wormhole, also known as an Einstein–Rosen bridge, is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that would fundamentally be a "shortcut" through spacetime. A wormhole is much like a tunnel with two ends each in separate points in spacetime. For a simplified notion of a wormhole, visualize space as a two-dimensional (2D) surface. In this case, a wormhole can be pictured as the 2D surface of a tube that connects different parts of the surface. The mouths of a wormhole are analogous to the holes at either end of the tube in a 2D plane....
There is a reason why Obito wanted to use Kamui to get rid of Minato.

Well, I'm out.
 
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Re: It really makes me sad that Naruto > Sasuke sadly

Look at the OP's name, even he knows Naruto is better.

There's no hope for you. Your buddies Macho, Dante, Solo haven't posted in a long time, because they know what's up.
Macho ? Dante ? Solo?
Keyword: Who ?
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There are always butthurt moron's that deny facts.
Naruto is faster as Sasuke...Mangafaxxx soo everyone should shut the **** up who says something else....

They are just salty cuz they fav sucks more then Sakura ^^

Good Thread...and why are they two Thread in one Thread ? o_O
 
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some people dont get it. Kaguya avoided sasuke by flying not changing worlds. changing worlds was just for gaining more chakra. changing worlds is jst like changing the background not the actual action. If sasuke was fast he could hv pinned her down immediately when the worlds switched because there was no gravity which means his speed became greater after the worlds were switched.
but kaguya had time to switch worlds then attend sasuke later. I would say sasuke was at an advantage because He is the one who had the oppotunity to attack immediately after the worlds switched. his attack landed immediately after the worlds switched
 
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