Naruto's speed

[Xlad]

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OT: Also about the "inconsistent" speed. One could say that the higher that speed feat is, the lesser of it's use. Also it would be redundant and Kishi always want to establish a parallel when that happens. (I.e,

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And just because a person has high-speed doesn't mean they'll use it all the time. Does Juubito have to go at full speed all the time to note how fast he is? Does Tobirama or Minato have to use their body flicker more to show that? Does Madara have to use his Shunshin to be considered fast? Does Ei always used Bijuu-Version of his Raiton Armor to finish his enemies? I am also pretty sure that Lee doesn't have to keep using his speed all the time. Maybe I'm wrong.

Point is, going all out does not equate to using every single thing in one's arsenal. There has to be room for different feats and events as well.

 

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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

I'm not a sasuke so... yea idc, about your opinion sadly.

and yes it was plot, angry hero = damaged target, its something you see in all shonen's.

please learn your elements of story/plot.

#schooled

Schooled? you know that everything is plot right?
its absolutely retarded to call plot for one specific aspect of story ​.
the word you're looking for is unstoppable rage not plot, ignorant.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Re: naruto's speed

LOL you still don't understand do you ?
Of course it did (raising his hand + raising his feet + forward step + slightly horizontal attack = Hindered by gravity)
I'm talking about Kaguya reflexes not Naruto's, let me explain in a way even you can understand :
Kaguya has insane flight speed but In order for Kaguya to dodge, she first needs to see the attack coming right ? In Naruto's case she didn't see him coming thus she couldn't make use of her flight speed to dodge (this proves that her reflexes suck).
In the sasuke's case : She saw him coming because the moment he appeared next to her, the gravity was effecting him = Was able to make use of her flight speed.
We have literally 0 proof that Kaguya would fail to dodge naruto's attack if she cloud see it coming because (Flight speed (movement speed) =/= Reaction time.

I still say that the gravity if neutral at least in this attack because your not getting movement at a downward attack plus gravity pulling increase it's speed. And she and BZ were looking at naruto while talking so saying that she could see him. Would mean naruto is faster then sasuke in movement and attack speed. So it's highly likely she wouldn't have been avoided by this feats alone.

 

[neosmith500]

Re: naruto's speed

LOL you still don't understand do you ?
Of course it did (raising his hand + raising his feet + forward step + slightly horizontal attack = Hindered by gravity)
I'm talking about Kaguya reflexes not Naruto's, let me explain in a way even you can understand :
Kaguya has insane flight speed but In order for Kaguya to dodge, she first needs to see the attack coming right ? In Naruto's case she didn't see him coming thus she couldn't make use of her flight speed to dodge (this proves that her reflexes suck).
In the sasuke's case : She saw him coming because the moment he appeared next to her, the gravity was effecting him = Was able to make use of her flight speed.
We have literally 0 proof that Kaguya would fail to dodge naruto's attack if she cloud see it coming because (Flight speed (movement speed) =/= Reaction time.

WTF!! kaguya/zetsu was looking at naruto on tha ground nd naruto was even pointing his finger at her nd talking..Kaguya reaction>>sasuke reaction lol

 

[Alastor]

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I still say that the gravity if neutral at least in this attack because your not getting movement at a downward attack plus gravity pulling increase it's speed. And she and BZ were looking at naruto while talking so saying that she could see him. Would mean naruto is faster then sasuke in movement and attack speed. So it's highly likely she wouldn't have been avoided by this feats alone.

Sigh... I'm done with you, start by understanding that reaction time =/= movement speed and that Attack speed =/= Travel speed, then we will talk.

 

[Alastor]

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WTF!! kaguya/zetsu was looking at naruto on tha ground nd naruto was even pointing his finger at her nd talking..Kaguya reaction>>sasuke reaction lol

Eh ? Kaguya was looking at naruto =/= seeing his Blitz. You high bro ?
Go re-read my previous posts.

 

[Waltz]

Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

Lets employ a decomposition porcess:​

The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:

Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]

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Now observe the following two scans

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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.

I'll address your three images as they are chronologically posted.

-> Your first scan segment shows Naruto and Sasuke advancing towards a target. Naruto initially has the advantage as he started his blitz before Sasuke moved.


-> Your second scan segment as indicated by the sfx and portrayal shows Sasuke finally activating his Douryoku while Naruto continues in his blitz, something he started since the panel before. What you deliberately failed to make note of is that the moment Sasuke moved; Naruto was almost directly before the target:

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In your third segment, we see Naruto reaching the target however Sasuke had already made his blow and passed on to the other side. Therefore they did not reach the target simultaneously although Naruto had an initial advantage.


So your opening statement is false: ​

However, I was wrong! I said it was on par with Naruto's speedblitz but in reality it's inferior to Naruto's Speedblitz

Not only is is false, but your assertion is a contradictory to what you stated before. If Naruto's Blitzing was faster than Sasuke's Douryoku then he would have reached Madara before Sasuke since he had the initial advantage. A single inconsistency as this already debunks your entire thread.


Sasuke's movement's are instantaneous as it's movements are identical to that of Space-time Ninjutsu. ​

in•stant (ˈɪn stənt)

n.
1. an infinitesimal or very short space of time; moment.

As the remaining, sane, individuals of NB have already stated: Naruto cannot be faster than 'instant'.



What you failed to note in the current chapter is that Sasuke did not teleport with a co-ordinate attack through Kaguya has he did in these scenarios:

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But rather, Sasuke teleported

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having prepared Chidori within the same instant and made an attempt to strike her with it. What you also failed to realize is that when Sasuke made this attempt the dimension was still being affected by the extreme gravitational constant which Kaguya had set in place; which would naturally have an effect on Sasuke once he was next to her. Contrarily, there was no such constant when Naruto made his blow on Kaguya. Though the inconsistency here is why Kaguya, the Juubi's Jinchuriki wielding the most powerful Ocular power was unable to anticipate a simple blitz; it lies on the Author and not on your false theory that Naruto is faster than what's bestowed by Sasuke's Ocular power.

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[FoolzBeWeary]

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Sigh... I'm done with you, start by understanding that reaction time =/= movement speed and that Attack speed =/= Travel speed, then we will talk.

You can be done with me. But the fact is gravity didn't play a negative part in this attack. Plus I have proven a point that they were looking straight at naruto when he attacked

 

[swagking]

Re: naruto's speed

He got pissed off from Obito's death. Also, he is in BSM or SM atleast. Im not too sure if this Rikudou mode is separate from BM mode or if Naruto is already in BM mode.

why the f@!k would you bring up BSM when he is in six paths mode smh

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

Lets employ a decomposition porcess:​

I'll address your three images as they are chronologically posted.

-> Your first scan segment shows Naruto and Sasuke advancing towards a target. Naruto initially has the advantage as he started his blitz before Sasuke moved.


-> Your second scan segment as indicated by the sfx and portrayal shows Sasuke finally activating his Douryoku while Naruto continues in his blitz, something he started since the panel before. What you deliberately failed to make note of is that the moment Sasuke moved; Naruto was almost directly before the target:

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In your third segment, we see Naruto reaching the target however Sasuke had already made his blow and passed on to the other side. Therefore they did not reach the target simultaneously although Naruto had an initial advantage.


So your opening statement is false: ​

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Not only is is false, but your assertion is a contradictory to what you stated before. If Naruto's Blitzing was faster than Sasuke's Douryoku then he would have reached Madara before Sasuke since he had the initial advantage. A single inconsistency as this already debunks your entire thread.


Sasuke's movement's are instantaneous as it's movements are identical to that of Space-time Ninjutsu. ​

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As the remaining, sane, individuals of NB have already stated: Naruto cannot be faster than 'instant'.



What you failed to note in the current chapter is that Sasuke did not teleport with a co-ordinate attack through Kaguya has he did in these scenarios:

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But rather, Sasuke teleported

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having prepared Chidori within the same instant and made an attempt to strike her with it. What you also failed to realize is that when Sasuke made this attempt the dimension was still being affected by the extreme gravitational constant which Kaguya had set in place; which would naturally have an effect on Sasuke once he was next to her. Contrarily, there was no such constant when Naruto made his blow on Kaguya. Though the inconsistency here is why Kaguya, the Juubi's Jinchuriki wielding the most powerful Ocular power was unable to anticipate a simple blitz; it lies on the Author and not on your false theory that Naruto is faster than what's bestowed by Sasuke's Ocular power.

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Thread solo'd.

 

[Mad Daz]

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Kaguya was only able to dodge Sasuke's attack because she was able to switch dimensions. As she switched, she began to fly up, so she would move even faster when the dimension changed. In Naruto's case, she was lacking chakra making her unable to change the dimension as she did with Sasuke. There's a possibility that Naruto used his inconsistent shunshin or Sasuke teleported him to Kaguya. But Naruto's shunshin is more believable.

If you're wondering if Naruto is faster, he's not. The only thing that can be faster is his striking speed. Sasuke's S/T allows him to move instantly, Naruto hasn't shown a shunshin nor footspeed at such speeds. You also can't be faster than instantaneous, so thats out of the question and anyone who states otherwise is a moron.

Its pretty much been confirmed naruto is faster in 99% of all circumstances. Not even talking reflexes.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

I'll state it again, their initial plan was to swap dimensions in order to recover back chakra, not to dodge Sasuke's attack but by doing so managed to dodge Sasuke's attack anyway. BZ states it quite early on before Sasuke's and Naruto's attack [

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] so neither knew such attacks were coming.

I dont know whats so complicated about this

 

[LuckyMan]

Lel that Waltz guy is mad. Kaguya is affected by her own power as well so if she was able to move the gravity effect was already lifted. Naruto even got up to try and heal Obito, which further proves the effect was lifted. If the effect was still in play Sasuke would have never even thrust Chidori in the first place because he would have been pulled towards the ground right when he got to her. Stay mad.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Lel that Waltz guy is mad. Kaguya is affected by her own power as well so if she was able to move the gravity effect was already lifted. Naruto even got up to try and heal Obito, which further proves the effect was lifted. If the effect was still in play Sasuke would have never even thrust Chidori in the first place because he would have been pulled towards the ground right when he got to her. Stay mad.

She lessened the gravity.

 

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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

Thread solo'd.

I've come to realized that if someone wrote i don't know what i'm talking about but as long as it seems like he's disagreeing it the OP you would say thread solo'ed.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

I've come to realized that if someone wrote i don't know what i'm talking about but as long as it seems like he's disagreeing it the OP you would say thread solo'ed.

Did you not read his post? This thread was solo'd.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

Kaguya was only able to dodge Sasuke's attack because she was able to switch dimensions. As she switched, she began to fly up, so she would move even faster when the dimension changed. In Naruto's case, she was lacking chakra making her unable to change the dimension as she did with Sasuke. There's a possibility that Naruto used his inconsistent shunshin or Sasuke teleported him to Kaguya. But Naruto's shunshin is more believable.

If you're wondering if Naruto is faster, he's not. The only thing that can be faster is his striking speed. Sasuke's S/T allows him to move instantly, Naruto hasn't shown a shunshin nor footspeed at such speeds. You also can't be faster than instantaneous, so thats out of the question and anyone who states otherwise is a moron.

Sasuke was also able to move faster since she switched the dimension to a lesser gravity so she could fly up at her full speed which would let Sasuke be at his full speed while trying to strike but that wasn't fast enough. You do know Naruto's KM speed is compared to Minato's yellow flash speed right? That's when he's using his FTG as shown when he was fighting in the war and he wiped out

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. So yes Naruto's KM foot speed is being compared to instant speed and his BM is faster since it's more power. What you seem to forget is that Bijuu's are the ultimate form of chakra and powers up their Jinchuuriki powers far above others.

Bee in version 1 3 tails mode was so fast that Sasuke could only see Bee when he moved in linear movement but needed Karin to keep track of him. Naruto KM is the equivalent of Version 1 9 tails cloak mode so his speed would be that high up. As we seen in part one, you can increase your speed by focusing chakra into your feet as Sasuke (against Haku) and Sakura (against Ino) both did. Naruto have a near limitless amount of chakra and in his current form it's even stronger and faster than his past forms.

So you are incorrect since Naruto have shown the speed and his current form is combining SM, which enhance the overall stats which includes speed, with BM which shown speed compared to instant speed.

Yet, she had to change the dimension the last time Sasuke teleported her. If she could just fly and dodge, why didn't she just do that without changing the dimension.

She didn't have to, the gravity was weighing her down though but as soon as she changed dimensions Sasuke would have his full speed as well so it still wasn't enough to stop her. Kaguya haven't show much jutsus but she should be capable of using any jutsus just like other Rinnegan users are capable of. She didn't go into her dimension which she can do pretty fast. Also if Madara can grow his legs back after Sasuke cut him in half and she took over Madara's body then we have to suspect that she have similar regenerative powers.

 

[neosmith500]

Re: naruto's speed

Eh ? Kaguya was looking at naruto =/= seeing his Blitz. You high bro ?
Go re-read my previous posts.

bro bro u make it seem as if sasuke was moving in slo-mo wen he tried to yin chidori kaguya lol,chidori was already in hand wen he swapped..kaguya reaction>>sasuke..sasuke was closer to kaguya nd yet no blitz slash..naruto was talking to kaguya /zetsu nd yet she got insta blitz lol..sasuke could never hope to solo rinn blitz kaguya no matter the occasion Dwl

 

[Lana Del Taka]

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Sasuke was also able to move faster since she switched the dimension to a lesser gravity so she could fly up at her full speed which would let Sasuke be at his full speed while trying to strike but that wasn't fast enough. You do know Naruto's KM speed is compared to Minato's yellow flash speed right? That's when he's using his FTG as shown when he was fighting in the war and he wiped out

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. So yes Naruto's KM foot speed is being compared to instant speed and his BM is faster since it's more power. What you seem to forget is that Bijuu's are the ultimate form of chakra and powers up their Jinchuuriki powers far above others.

Bee in version 1 3 tails mode was so fast that Sasuke could only see Bee when he moved in linear movement but needed Karin to keep track of him. Naruto KM is the equivalent of Version 1 9 tails cloak mode so his speed would be that high up. As we seen in part one, you can increase your speed by focusing chakra into your feet as Sasuke (against Haku) and Sakura (against Ino) both did. Naruto have a near limitless amount of chakra and in his current form it's even stronger and faster than his past forms.

So you are incorrect since Naruto have shown the speed and his current form is combining SM, which enhance the overall stats which includes speed, with BM which shown speed compared to instant speed.



She didn't have to, the gravity was weighing her down though but as soon as she changed dimensions Sasuke would have his full speed as well so it still wasn't enough to stop her. Kaguya haven't show much jutsus but she should be capable of using any jutsus just like other Rinnegan users are capable of. She didn't go into her dimension which she can do pretty fast. Also if Madara can grow his legs back after Sasuke cut him in half and she took over Madara's body then we have to suspect that she have similar regenerative powers.

She flew immediately when the dimension changed. Sasuke wqs not ready for that. He was still a couple of inches away from her, don't act like Kaguya is slow either, she's Hagaromo's mother for christ sakes.

 

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Re: Confirmed Manga-Fact: Naruto's Speedblitz is faster than Sasuke's Teleportation!!

Did you not read his post? This thread was solo'd.

It what way?