Naruto's speed problems

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Kinda funny how the wiki isn't reliable but the databook is even tho the wiki gets updated and has sources to back it up ^_^
the data books are written by kishimoto,while wiki is fan made.
 

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Naruto Is the second fastest Ninja and He is at his fastest when he uses Shunshin while in KCM or Bijuu mode.

Wether he uses it or not still doesn't mean he cannot use it when he wants which is false.

DO you honestly expect Naruto to Speed blitz obito through out the fight?

Also, Obito has the Sharingan, He can see chakra and Predict movements which helps him fighting naruto's speed.

Comparing Sasuke to naruto's Speed is laughable.
 

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No you don't get it. Naruto does master his speed. But kishi hinders his speed too much in battle because he knows that if he were to make Naruto shunshin-blitzing everyone, even Madara or Obito would have already be dead already. That's what is funny about Kishi's manga. Normally someone with untraceable or untouchable speed should be able to defeat almost everyone, but to make fair fight, Kishi purposely reduces their speed in fights or simply doesn't even use them
 

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Personally i lol when people say naruto is blitzing shinobi's, especially high tier shinobi's.
Fact is naruto is no, Ei, Minato, Obito, Gai/Lee.

Yes he holds the greatest footspeed, however his fighting style is still very much kage bunshin and his rasengan variants.
The others i have mentioned above, their main fighting style which they use to their full advantage to overcome their opponents is their speed.

Fact is, speed isn't something that naruto has fully incorporated into his fighting style, but rather uses it in short bursts when needs be
 

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Personally i lol when people say naruto is blitzing shinobi's, especially high tier shinobi's.
Fact is naruto is no, Ei, Minato, Obito, Gai/Lee.

Yes he holds the greatest footspeed, however his fighting style is still very much kage bunshin and his rasengan variants.
The others i have mentioned above, their main fighting style which they use to their full advantage to overcome their opponents is their speed.

Fact is, speed isn't something that naruto has fully incorporated into his fighting style, but rather uses it in short bursts when needs be

are you the guy that said rinnegan doesn't require senju DNA XD XD
 

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Naruto's speed has been seriously been nerfed to make things more interestin and i agree he hasn't mastered it too
 

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naruto has base of 3.5. KCM acts as enhancement.
Minato base 5 + kcm > naruto
Gai base 5 + gates....same for lee
A base 5 + raiton amour
Kakashi 5
Itachi 5
Sasuke 4.5

We've seen itachi match naruto, we've seen A in V1 trash kcm naruto, now sasuke matched naruto as well.
The fact is that KCM * base 3.5 makes naruto around 5 speed stat.
 

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Lol, i doubt you are updated
1, naruto base speed is 3.5 the beginnin of part 2, 3 trainin arc has passed since then he should be around 4 to 4.5 now.
2, naruto trashed v2 A full speed
3, itachi keep up with the naruto who didn't use his shunshin (which is what makes him the fastest) and naruto want to talk not fight itachi.
 

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Lol, i doubt you are updated
1, naruto base speed is 3.5 the beginnin of part 2, 3 trainin arc has passed since then he should be around 4 to 4.5 now.
2, naruto trashed v2 A full speed
3, itachi keep up with the naruto who didn't use his shunshin (which is what makes him the fastest) and naruto want to talk not fight itachi.
 

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No you don't get it. Naruto does master his speed. But kishi hinders his speed too much in battle because he knows that if he were to make Naruto shunshin-blitzing everyone, even Madara or Obito would have already be dead already. That's what is funny about Kishi's manga. Normally someone with untraceable or untouchable speed should be able to defeat almost everyone, but to make fair fight, Kishi purposely reduces their speed in fights or simply doesn't even use them

I agree with this guy. We put logic behind the manga when Kishi himself doesn't.
 

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Lol, i doubt you are updated
1, naruto base speed is 3.5 the beginnin of part 2, 3 trainin arc has passed since then he should be around 4 to 4.5 now.
2, naruto trashed v2 A full speed
3, itachi keep up with the naruto who didn't use his shunshin (which is what makes him the fastest) and naruto want to talk not fight itachi.
Well, no updates. lol
1. Naruto didnt train speed, so no increase.
2. BS, dodging isnt being faster. Infact V1 A trashed naruto twice there. A>naruto still.
3. Neither itachi used shunshin on naruto. Its irrelevant cuz shunshin depends on base speed anyway. Itachi only used shunshin to get away when out numbered and on bee, never naruto.
Naruto want to talk? Drop this lame excuse. sasuke vs naruto madara vs hashi, all were talking *****es in fight to death, its TNJ MANGA
 

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I agree with this guy. We put logic behind the manga when Kishi himself doesn't.

if naruto used that kind of speed that often he'd be EXHAUSTED even for his great stamina think of a cheetah that can run fast hell put loses stamina
 

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Naruto not using his speed over and over is like how Obito or Madara dosent use their genjutsu on their opponents one on one, when they were strong enough to put Kurama in one. All one has to do is look into their eyes. Why didnt Obito put Minato in one. Its something called Plot.
If Naruto would speedblitz everyone n every fight what point would there be in even reading or watchin Naruto?
Nagato could bansho tenin everyone and drag out their souls, or Obito could've killed everyone with Gedo Mazo whit the dragons that come out of it. But he didnt. there are many things kishi can make characters do, but he wont cuz then the manga would become pointless.
obviously Naruto has mastered his speed, in every situation other than him hitting kisame he has used it and was successful.

also, in the situation with sasuke and naruto rushing to sakura, they are not in a speed race. naruto just uses what he needs in a situation i guess. more would be waste of effort and using max speed might be tiring too.
 

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I posted this already in a different thread, but I'm going to post it here as well since the 2 threads are same.

The reason is plot. Period. If Kishi allowed Naruto to use his full speed all the time Naruto would be too powerful so he limits Naruto. That’s nothing new. Kishi has always held Naruto back. It just like how in part 1 Kishi didn't allow Naruto to summon giant toads with his chakra (he could do it with 9 tails chakra). Naruto could only summon small toads with his chakra which makes no since because Nartuo's problem with chakra control was he used too much chakra not too little. Just think about it. How can Naruto be able to mold enough chakra to create 100's of shadow clones, but not summon a giant toad. I'm not talking about a boss size toad either.

Naruto did train in speed. His battle with A was his training. In fact that was the entire purpose to that battle. Naruto was heading to the battlefield and A was standing in his way. Naruto was only allowed to use speed to get by A and he started out using the minimal speed he thought was necessary. That speed was not enough so he kept using more and more speed until he used his max speed (or close to it) to not only dodge A's attack, but also run by A as well.

Naruto running by A was the most important part of the battle. It's true that Naruto doesn't need to be faster than A to dodge A's attack, but he does have to be faster than A to run by him using nothing but speed and that's what he did. So, Yes, Naruto is faster than A.
 

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What people dont understand is taht he cant speed blitz and make rasengans at same time, so he caught up to lets say sasuke, but he also made a rasenshuriken beforehand... so hes still faster..
 

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What people dont understand is taht he cant speed blitz and make rasengans at same time, so he caught up to lets say sasuke, but he also made a rasenshuriken beforehand... so hes still faster..
And what is so hard to admit that he hasn't mastered his speed....

Obito and Madara have a reason for not using Genjutsu and etc. What is Naruto's excuse for not spaming his speed when it could've soloed Obito...
 

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Naruto hasnt overwhelmed an enemy with speed yet . Although he is obviously extremely fast .
 
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