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Hello guys and gals. This is first theory, so please go easy on me!!!!!!!!!!
After reading latest chapters, I started thinking dat is narutos current strength sufficient to beat someone like Madara, Sasuke, Kisame. I don't think so. Naruto is still very weak. He was able to defeat pains all bodies only b'coz god pain was not at his full power when naruto arrived. Narutos sage mode thingy is useless in currently. If naruto is going to use clones everytime to gain sage mode, it won't work against someone fast like sasuke or madara or even kisame. So do you think naruto still needs to learn.
 
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Hello guys and gals. This is first theory, so please go easy on me!!!!!!!!!!
After reading latest chapters, I started thinking dat is narutos current strength sufficient to beat someone like Madara, Sasuke, Kisame. I don't think so. Naruto is still very weak. He was able to defeat pains all bodies only b'coz god pain was not at his full power when naruto arrived. Narutos sage mode thingy is useless in currently. If naruto is going to use clones everytime to gain sage mode, it won't work against someone fast like sasuke or madara or even kisame. So do you think naruto still needs to learn.
theres no end to training u have to carry on improving to become the best, even if u r the best theres always people who will come up the ranks to take ur place. tbh he hasnt even mastered the sage techs yet anyway eventually he will learn to gather sage chakra while moving so he wont need the clones .
 

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theres no end to training u have to carry on improving to become the best, even if u r the best theres always people who will come up the ranks to take ur place. tbh he hasnt even mastered the sage techs yet anyway eventually he will learn to gather sage chakra while moving so he wont need the clones .
Yeah, using clones is kinda...umm

Imagine , your fighting Sasuke etc . When you will have time to summon a clone ? :confused: XDD nonsense
 

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yes, dats what i am saying naruto at current is no match for sasuke' speed he may overpower sasuke for some minutes but once sage enrgy dries up naruto stand no chnace...
 

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Hello guys and gals. This is first theory, so please go easy on me!!!!!!!!!!
After reading latest chapters, I started thinking dat is narutos current strength sufficient to beat someone like Madara, Sasuke, Kisame. I don't think so. Naruto is still very weak. He was able to defeat pains all bodies only b'coz god pain was not at his full power when naruto arrived. Narutos sage mode thingy is useless in currently. If naruto is going to use clones everytime to gain sage mode, it won't work against someone fast like sasuke or madara or even kisame. So do you think naruto still needs to learn.
you have a point there. naruto must not always depend on his shadow clones to do everything
 

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Hello guys and gals. This is first theory, so please go easy on me!!!!!!!!!!
After reading latest chapters, I started thinking dat is narutos current strength sufficient to beat someone like Madara, Sasuke, Kisame. I don't think so. Naruto is still very weak. He was able to defeat pains all bodies only b'coz god pain was not at his full power when naruto arrived. Narutos sage mode thingy is useless in currently. If naruto is going to use clones everytime to gain sage mode, it won't work against someone fast like sasuke or madara or even kisame. So do you think naruto still needs to learn.
i agree with u... naruto still need to learn more before can beat sasuke... at least he need to know how to control his sage chakra without making clones for it..:naruto:
 
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actually, until naruto masters gathering natural energy while moving(which he will) all he has to do is keep 2 or 3 clones hidden somewhere, anywhere, probably myobokuzan, and then he just has to carry that scroll around, then when someone uber powerful comes along he rolls it out, and summons one of the clones and bam, sage mode naruto
 

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actually, until naruto masters gathering natural energy while moving(which he will) all he has to do is keep 2 or 3 clones hidden somewhere, anywhere, probably myobokuzan, and then he just has to carry that scroll around, then when someone uber powerful comes along he rolls it out, and summons one of the clones and bam, sage mode naruto
i totally agree. i think that naruto is quite capable of continuing on the way he has. There is no reason for him not to use the clones to gather sage chakra. this is a rather ingenious way of doing it. He could even leave 20 clones since he has so much chakra anyway. Naruto would be able to defeat them no, without a doubt. He such a strong will to win that he'd find a way no matter what.

I used to think the kage bushin no jutsu was stupid...but now i disagree. This is the best thing in the world for someone of narutos capablities. ever heard the saying don't fix something thats not broke.

Naruto will destroy them all...without a doubt. Plus he gets better with every fight.

if you know anything about real fighting you'd know experince fighting stronger people makes you a better fighter. trust me...i fight in real life as a bjj blue belt and an amature MMA fighter.

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i totally agree. i think that naruto is quite capable of continuing on the way he has. There is no reason for him not to use the clones to gather sage chakra. this is a rather ingenious way of doing it. He could even leave 20 clones since he has so much chakra anyway. Naruto would be able to defeat them no, without a doubt. He such a strong will to win that he'd find a way no matter what.

I used to think the kage bushin no jutsu was stupid...but now i disagree. This is the best thing in the world for someone of narutos capablities. ever heard the saying don't fix something thats not broke.

Naruto will destroy them all...without a doubt. Plus he gets better with every fight.

if you know anything about real fighting you'd know experince fighting stronger people makes you a better fighter. trust me...i fight in real life as a bjj blue belt and an amature MMA fighter.

read my blogs..

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Just throwing in my 2 cents on this thought; I think as of right now in the Manga with Naruto VS Sasuke, both at full strength, Naruto would ROCK Sasuke. I think they're both about even really, I think Sasuke's cocky attitude and lack of knowledge of Naruto's new Sage mode would be his downfall.

As far as Madara and Kisame go, Naruto's got a LONG way to go. I think there's some kind of secret to Kisame, he's going to end up being alot more badass than anyone anticipated. :hypertobi:
 

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Sage mode matters little against madara, who appears to move through space and time so nothing hurts him.

The only thing i can think of to actually hit madara would be likewise-a time/space jutsu of attacking capability or stopping madara from using the space/time technique.

Naruto would have trouble against sasuke for sure
Kisame naruto would find very VERY difficult considering kisame has a rather lot more chakra than naruto...and naruto has a sickeningly large chakra capacity.

Naruto got lucky with pain, everyone figured out his attack patterns, strengths and weaknesses (5 second delay, 6 bodies, real body, chakra recievers etc etc)

He also had just used a jutsu to destroy all of konoha.

Lets face facts, rasenshuriken cant do that, youd need to fire off 30-50 or more of FRS to destroy konoha, meaning pains attack used up a tonne of chakra, then theres the moon he created, and fighting kakashi etc.

Pain was severely weakened by the time naruto came along.
 
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theres no end to training u have to carry on improving to become the best, even if u r the best theres always people who will come up the ranks to take ur place. tbh he hasnt even mastered the sage techs yet anyway eventually he will learn to gather sage chakra while moving so he wont need the clones .
are you dumb.. do you know any thing about this manga.. AT ALL?!

stop wasting our time you POST WASTER!! :mad:
 

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actually, until naruto masters gathering natural energy while moving(which he will) all he has to do is keep 2 or 3 clones hidden somewhere, anywhere, probably myobokuzan, and then he just has to carry that scroll around, then when someone uber powerful comes along he rolls it out, and summons one of the clones and bam, sage mode naruto
I don't think so dat will work. Shadow Clone Jutsu is a forbiddent tech. Naruto mangaes to do it only b'coz of his chakra. But always keeping 2-3 clones hidden somewhere will have bad effect on his body, if clones are kept for long time.

i totally agree. i think that naruto is quite capable of continuing on the way he has. There is no reason for him not to use the clones to gather sage chakra. this is a rather ingenious way of doing it. He could even leave 20 clones since he has so much chakra anyway. Naruto would be able to defeat them no, without a doubt. He such a strong will to win that he'd find a way no matter what.

I used to think the kage bushin no jutsu was stupid...but now i disagree. This is the best thing in the world for someone of narutos capablities. ever heard the saying don't fix something thats not broke.

Naruto will destroy them all...without a doubt. Plus he gets better with every fight.

if you know anything about real fighting you'd know experince fighting stronger people makes you a better fighter. trust me...i fight in real life as a bjj blue belt and an amature MMA fighter.

read my blogs..
More the clones he keeps hidden lesser will be his chakra to use in battles. We all know Zetsu watches every battle fought by his comrades. So we can assume he is watching even naruto-pain battle. So now he knows abt sage mode. He will tell everything to madara, who may connect scroll with sage energy. So next time when naruto will be against akatsuki he won't have any chance to use scroll.

However u mentioned about using 20 clones. I think u missed one small conversation of fukasaku and shima(pa and ma frogs). Ma asked Pa the same thing why u didn't left more clones to gather sage energy, pa said it won't work. Only two clones work in sage energy. I can't recall the chapter and page. It will be better if someone else does it.

And however more clones he uses, lesser chakra he will have to suppress Kyubi. Kyubi has infinite mass of chakra. So it doesn't matter for him how many clones are created, but it is important for naruto to optimally use his chakra. So more clone tech won't work...

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Right!!!!!!!!!

And talking about what my friend ThePain said at very beginning of thread is correct. Naruto needs to learn much more. Sage mode won't last long. It is not his strength. There is not much diffrence between Kyubi's chakra and natural energy, except former is dangerous and latter is not dangerous. Both chakra gives same abilities to naruto, both are ulimited, both gave strength, speed and shields and heeling powers.

We saw J-Man and Pains battle, sage techs were easily matched by pain, and so god pain did same in naruto-pain battle. Naruto needs to learn more jutsus, all the sage techs i.e hermit arts, and some more forbidden jutsus......

Well dats all I wanted to say......
 

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Although I respect everybody's opinion, some of you just won't give Naruto and Pain enough credit.

How many times has Zetsu look at Naruto fighting? Don't know and don't need to know. Yes, that will let the other side know Naruto's skills but that does not says the whole story since Naruto always comes up with something different. Everything he learns, he makes it better. Besides, he always comes up with some unpredictable move or surprise.

Naruto vs Sasuke - who knows. I think Naruto can come easily on top, but will see some other time. How do you measure that? The last time they both had a chance to go at each other, Naruto was smoked. A lot had occurred since then. Anyway, I don't think we will see a good fight to the end or close to the end between them. They may have a fight but I think (it will be in a very surprising way)they will joint forces and fight Madara since Sasuke will find out (one way or the other ) that Madara is responsible for what happened to his brother and family. It is kind of hard to believe everything Sasuke says to Madara since I think Sasuke is using Madara as much as Madara is using him. He may get to Konoha for a reason but may do change of mission while at Konoha, who knows.

Kisame - I don't think it will be Naruto's fight. In would like to think that Kisame's main fight is with Team Guy again but this time they have trained for it. Naruto fighting Kisame, then Team Guy shows up and says "Naruto keep on going with your mission, he is ours".

Pain was bad a?? regardless of the amount of intelligence, help, or chackra depleted before Naruto's arrival. It is not like Naruto was resting for a long time before showing up. They both deserve more credit. Naruto came up with things when the situation changed. Pain blew away all 3 giant frogs with one blow. Even after all the fighting, Naruto was able to put a final blow on Pain even after his last Shinra Tensei. Now it seems like Naruto can mix Fox and Sage chackra.

I am sure Naruto will keep improving.
 
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