Naruto was the strongest in part 1

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Kyuubi is apart of him so yeah I’m including it, since the day he was born he had it it’s no way you can take it away

That way you're fighting a monster not a ninja, but yeah, until others developed their skills, he was.
 

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I know... do you think someone else could have beat him?? He may have had more power then naruto but still lost and the end

Yeah there were people who could beat Gaara. Orochimaru, Rasa, Kisame, Itachi, and possibly Kakashi would be able to beat him one on one the same way Naruto did.
But my point is that just because Naruto has the most chakra doesn't necessarily mean that he's the strongest shinobi.
 

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Yeah there were people who could beat Gaara. Orochimaru, Rasa, Kisame, Itachi, and possibly Kakashi would be able to beat him one on one the same way Naruto did.
But my point is that just because Naruto has the most chakra doesn't necessarily mean that he's the strongest shinobi.

You named all adults, I’m talking about someone around their age I know he’s not the strongest when it come to some people older then him was most talking about people around his age
 

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You named all adults, I’m talking about someone around their age I know he’s not the strongest when it come to some people older then him was most talking about people around his age

Alright if it's their age only then I would say only Naruto because of Boss Toad provided physical art advantage. What about the previous generations during the same age?
 

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Alright if it's their age only then I would say only Naruto because of Boss Toad provided physical art advantage. What about the previous generations during the same age?

Yes you could do that, would like to hear you opinion to
 

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Yes you could do that, would like to hear you opinion to

Hmm, I just looked through the previous generations at 12-13 years of age too see who would’ve beat Part 1 Naruto with all his arsenal (including boss toad) and it came down to only 2 people.

1. 13 year old Itachi because of his Tsukyomi or Amatersu either one will do.

2. 13 year old Tobi/Obito because of mangekyo ocular genjutsu and other additional powers ups.

That’s it really because of kurama’s chakra, if not then there’s a whole list.
 

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Hmm, I just looked through the previous generations at 12-13 years of age too see who would’ve beat Part 1 Naruto with all his arsenal (including boss toad) and it came down to only 2 people.

1. 13 year old Itachi because of his Tsukyomi or Amatersu either one will do.

2. 13 year old Tobi/Obito because of mangekyo ocular genjutsu and other additional powers ups.

That’s it really because of kurama’s chakra, if not then there’s a whole list.

Considering naruto didn’t know not to look in to a Uchiha eyes at the time I will give that one too, but if naruto was to have KN on then Amaterasu wouldn’t work I think as seen in the manga

Obito would rape him though because if I remember correctly didn’t he have Kamui

Shisui can be add on to this list I think also
 
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Considering naruto didn’t know not to look in to a Uchiha eyes at the time I will give that one too, but if naruto was to have KN on then Amaterasu wouldn’t work I think as seen in the manga

Obito would rape him though because if I remember correctly didn’t he have Kamui

You’re right the kyubi cloak unconsciously protects the host so even if Amatersu one-shots his Boss Toad summoning like it did Nagato’s Animal summonings, jinchuurkis such as Gaara as Naruto can protect themselves.


As for Obito it’s not so much so as Kamui (because that’s the quickest way) but his ability to use this stone pillar w/markings to extract the kyubi from Naruto like he did Kushina would kill Naruto even more efficiently than Kamui would.
 
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Considering naruto didn’t know not to look in to a Uchiha eyes at the time I will give that one too, but if naruto was to have KN on then Amaterasu wouldn’t work I think as seen in the manga

That's not true Ama was shed by Naruto releasing Kyubi chakra. KN wouldn't provide the same defense or ability. KN Naruto has also demonstarted 0 ability to shed chakra.

Obito would rape him though because if I remember correctly didn’t he have Kamui

Shisui can be add on to this list I think also

I agree with the rest of the list.
 

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That's not true Ama was shed by Naruto releasing Kyubi chakra. KN wouldn't provide the same defense or ability. KN Naruto has also demonstarted 0 ability to shed chakra.



I agree with the rest of the list.

I was trying to say naruto in 1 tails form my bad
 

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You’re right the kyubi cloak unconsciously protects the host so even if Amatersu one-shots his Boss Tod summoning like it did Nagato’s Animal summonings, jinchuurki’s such as Gaara as well can protect themselves.


As for Obito it’s not so much so as Kamui (because that’s the quickest way) but his ability to use this stone pillar w/markings to extract the kyubi from Naruto like he did Kushina would kill Naruto even more efficiently than Kamui would.

Yeah it’s a done deal against obito, and itachi because it’s no way he can battle without looking into his eyes. But all this is 1 tails though any higher I think they would have a little problem
 
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Yeah it’s a done deal against obito, and itachi because it’s no way he can battle without looking into his eyes. But all this is 1 tails though any higher I think they would have a little problem

Problem for Itachi? I mean the sharingan suppresses chakra so even if Naruto reaches a higher state of biju transformation then that’s always an option. It does get harder as you said then at that point Itachi would whip out Susano’o and it’s game over from there.

Mangekyo powers have too many one-shot variables to them that it can get annoying in a versus match. Naruto would need full control over kurama’s chakra to divert Itachi’s one-shot attacks with fission beings and tail-arm substitution.

Edit: I don’t know if Shisui awakened his MS at the age of 13 like Obito and Itachi did so that’s why I didn’t add him to the list.
 
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I was trying to say naruto in 1 tails form my bad

I know what you were referring to however the active cloak wouldn't help against Ama. It would have to emerge after Ama then shed it like Naruto did(final fight). Anyway Naruto part 1 doesn't have these abilities, chakra control or sync with Kurama to pull such a feat off.
 

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Problem for Itachi? I mean the sharingan suppresses chakra so even if Naruto reaches a higher state of biju transformation then that’s always an option. It does get harder as you said then at that point Itachi would whip out Susano’o and it’s game over from there.

Mangekyo powers have too many one-shot variables to them that it can get annoying in a versus match. Naruto would need full control over kurama’s chakra to divert Itachi’s one-shot attacks with fission beings and tail-arm substitution.

Edit: I don’t know if Shisui awakened his MS at the age of 13 like Obito and Itachi did so that’s why I didn’t add him to the list.

I think he awakened it before 13 I might be wrong though
 

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You’re right the kyubi cloak unconsciously protects the host so even if Amatersu one-shots his Boss Toad summoning like it did Nagato’s Animal summonings, jinchuurkis such as Gaara as Naruto can protect themselves.


As for Obito it’s not so much so as Kamui (because that’s the quickest way) but his ability to use this stone pillar w/markings to extract the kyubi from Naruto like he did Kushina would kill Naruto even more efficiently than Kamui would.

Wasn't that only possible because her seal was weakened due to child birth?
 

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He wasn’t though.
 

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Wasn't that only possible because her seal was weakened due to child birth?

Naruto's seal has been since day one so that the nine tail's chakra can mix with Naruto's chakra.
So he'll have no problem extracting the beast, on top of that nothing indicates that he can't do it if it's not weakened. Obito's extraction jutsu isn't a Eight Trigrams Sealing Style jutsu just so you know.
 

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yet he got solo by saskey 3 times neg diff xd
 

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yea i agree kurama was the strongest in part one.....and his vessel i guess. but for real tho sasuke was kinda beefed at vote1 making him the true underdog for part1
 
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