Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)

Who do you think would win under these circumstances.

  • Naruto

    Votes: 297 74.4%
  • Sasuke

    Votes: 102 25.6%

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Jonathonn4

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naruto cant use sage mode, the creator of the thread didnt allow it.

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without the fox naruto would have lost in the VotE against sasuke's first chidori, it wouldnt have been a fight. he could never tell which naruto was the real one and a rasengan barrage is countered easily by katon or chidori senbon.
he never said that he coudn't use it, he just said no sharingan and no fox
 

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Naruto would win because of sage mode, and because taking away the sharingan takes away almost everything from sauske. Naruto has tried to avoid using the fox since he went into the 4th tail for the first time, and he has only used the fox form once, when fighting pain. Sauske on the other hand has used it in every fight since he acquired the sharingan and had never learned to fight without it. Without the fox naruto would be able to merge with the grand frog sages, a form he has never used and would increase his power. Sauske's iconic moves, the chidori and lightning sword explicitly use the sharingan to be able to attack rapidly as well as having perfect aim, taking the sharingan away from sauske, which is the heart of his power, makes sauske a babe in swadeling cloth while allowing naruto to increase his power dramatically by taking away the fox's interference.
Who do you think would win in a fight..

--Naruto cant use fox chakra or sage mode!

--Sasuke cant use sharigan or curse mark!

--Plus no summonings!!
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apart from that we have seen with kakashi that you can use chidori without sharingan, just not as precisely and you are more vulnerable to counter attacks.
 

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hmm intersting.. i should have made this post.. naruto with SG vs Sasuke no sharigan.. bcuz sasuke without sharigan is still very fast and he can still see fast.. think bout it rock lee moves lightning fast which means he can also see that fast.. SG naruto really is fast but i dont think hes on par with sasuke normal speed.. SG naruto is probably on par with sasuke speed when he fought gaara during chuunin exams..
good point but him seeing fast isnt applicable against sage mode, remember narutos sage mode against the pains. He realized they could see all his movements and dodged flawlessly so what did he do? he put so much force into his punch that the air current his hand dragged with it practically instakilled that first pain he swung at. Also we must all remember while naruto is a foolish and mostly immature person during most of the series, during battles, especially ones he would take very seriously(sasuke) his brain switches to tactical genius, that pain battle was one example, at the instant he figured out their ability of shared sight, he instantly knew from multiple options that the best was to pack more power in his punch and kill the guy with the air current following it. Naruto all the way
 

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naruto is winning coz he has more chakra and stamina than sasuke
and i doubt that sasuke manages to exhaust his chakra without susano'o and amaterasu before kirin, rasengan or any chidori hits.

@naruto with sage mode: i doubt that sasuke can win against him. if he had three tomoe, he would put up a fight, but i dont think that he can win without sharingan. as long as sasuke has the speed advantage, he doesnt have to fight naruto's jutsus head on, but against sage mode with the slight speed advantage of sage mode naruto is at least equally fast, meaning that his punches and attacks will start to hit without sharingan.
 
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Without the Sharigan Sasuke gets ddestroyed the Valley of the End Sasuke only got him because his sharingan matured. He can't tell Naruto from a clone and 1,000 rasengan is hard to beat. I don't think Sasuke stands a chance his sharingan is his Nindo
nice one you got there sasuke can't stand a chance against naruto without his sharingan.
 

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To answer the earlier question, the senju have great chakra reserves and the uzumaki are closely related to them. Kushina mentioned that she excelled even further un chakra reserves even for her clan. With Naruto being her son, he has an excellent amount of chakra.

As far as who would win, I would have to say Naruto do to his ability to catch on a lot quicker during battle than Sasuke.
 

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naruto cant build a wind barrier.
wind-rasengan wont be enough to block kirin, and if sasuke forces naruto into more than one or two frs, it's over for naruto.

if frs meets kirin and naruto is immediately below the impact, he'll be either severely hurt or die. not because kirin hits him, but just because of the explosion that will occur.

chakra is no shield, if anyone is hit by kirin and doesnt have a perfect defensive jutsu, he'll die. it's not like bleach where you can hit a character and he has a reiatsu shield, if you dont use chakra it's worthless.

naruto cant counter raiton easily because he has no moves to do it. yes, he will win a direct clash of chidori and wind rasengan, but sasuke would be an idiot to do it. he can out-range naruto with his whole jutsu arsenal and is at least on par (in my eyes faster, and i have read no point why that should be different) on speed.

are you really debating that the fantasy-battle-thread is unfair?
apart from that sasuke is way more used to sharingan than naruto to his modes, it's like saying that sasuke cant use a leg.
But now, Sasuke can't really use Kirin as it requires a thunder storm and a great source of heat.

Since he can't use MS to help (Amaterasu can not be used), Sasuke will most likely not be able to create the source of heat fast enough becuase Naruto would try to charge him any chance he gets.

If he does get the chance Naruto may dodge, he may not.

Damn it, why doesn't someone do the damn battle so everyone can shut up? Then again when the winner is pronuonced everyone will argue over that. When will it end?

Anyway, take a burrito and sing the 'This is the best burrito I have ever eaten' song as a sign of me not wanting to argue with someone I don't even know. >_>
 

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Although with out the sharringan sasuke is probaly useless unable to do all the technique he has learned.( Karin is only possible in storm conditions )sasuke will win cause, if naruto could ever make up his mind to fight(till death) ino and Sakura will still love sasuke and because sasuke is a dirty fighter, fighting an opponent at his weakest(oro) trading a surmon for his live(.mandra. oro... Surmon) and even stabbing through a team mate(Karin) . As we know strength does not matter in battle but the utilization of your assets. Naruto will be killed easily because of his love of the bonds he made in konoha .if sakura or ino stoped naruto from dealing the final blow sasuke will use them as he used Karin to aceive his goal
 

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lol handicap.. how is it a handicap for naruto... its a handicap for sasuke bcuz the sharigan is his eyes...its like taki naruto body away and jus leavin his eyes on the battlefield to fight sasuke!! you should really consider who has the handicap here !!
Shawnd, didn't we already have an arguement over something else? (Don't remember exactly what tho)

Sasuke keeps his eyes, just doesn't have the activated Sharingan. I give props to the guy becuase he is a very skilled shinobi and without his Sharingan is probably around high chuunin to middle jounin level. But frankly, Sasuke seems to be abandoning his former skills for the Sharingan, and in practically EVERY battle he is in, he uses either the Sharingan and its abilities, Curse Seal (which is gone now), or someone jumps in to help.

Now this part: "its like taki naruto body away and jus leavin his eyes on the battlefield to fight sasuke!! you should really consider who has the handicap here!!"

Makes absolutly no sense to me. Mind breaking down a bit, becuase I can't understand what you're saying.
 

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Talking of speed i rememmber naruto being pretty fast without entering sage mode, etc, when he saved sakura from sasuke. sharingan makes sasuke look good, no disrespect but i think it'll be a narrow win 4 naruto... sorry sasuke fan boyz....
 

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But now, Sasuke can't really use Kirin as it requires a thunder storm and a great source of heat.

Since he can't use MS to help (Amaterasu can not be used), Sasuke will most likely not be able to create the source of heat fast enough becuase Naruto would try to charge him any chance he gets.

If he does get the chance Naruto may dodge, he may not.

Damn it, why doesn't someone do the damn battle so everyone can shut up? Then again when the winner is pronuonced everyone will argue over that. When will it end?

Anyway, take a burrito and sing the 'This is the best burrito I have ever eaten' song as a sign of me not wanting to argue with someone I don't even know. >_>
he needs either a thunder storm or a great source of heat. i think two katons should be enough to create kirin, since one and the heat of the burning ground was enough.
since sasuke is at least at the same speed, i think he would be able to shoot two katons into the sky, so kirin is an option.

i dont think naruto (normal) is faster than itachi and itachi couldnt evade kirin. i dont think there is anybody except maybe A and now naruto (in fox mode) who can evade kirin, and even with these two i'm not sure, considering the area it's hitting within 1/1000 of a second.

thank you, but for me we are just discussing, i dont become angry, but have fun:)
but i understand your intention and since like half of the people who posted (with reasons) thought that naruto will win and the other half that naruto will win, i accept that it's close and will go to sleep. good night.
 

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then sasuke should have sharigan sense its HIS OWN EYES!!!!!!! :flaw:
then naruto should have the kyuubi chakra as rent since it leaves in him.if you want to be fair,then naruto learned the sage mode as they both learned chidori and rasengan alike.and you know naruto's summoning would own sasuke's bird summoning.
 

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without the 9-tails inside naruto, naruto wouldn't of had the special training from jiraiya or the toads, so naruto wouldn't have had the rasengan, the toad summong and if naruto didn't have the 9-tails he wouldn't of had a bad childhood so he wouldn't try so hard to be reckognized, so the only reason naruto had alot of guts and fierce determination was because of the need to become stronger to be reckognized and respected. so both sasuke and naruto became as strong as they are through the stuff they have so it's fairgame.



the rules say that there is no sage mode which includes entering it at the start of the match, so you fail fanboy.
He would have taught Naruto because Naruto is his pupil's son & Jiraiya is Naruto's Godfather.


But honestly this thread is kind of pointless because if you take away Sasuke's Sharingan & the Kyuubi from Naruto you would have completely different characters & personalities. I mean just look at Naruto if he didn't have the Kyuubi inside him growing up then he would not have been an outcast. He would never have none that pain & he never would have been able to sympathize with Gaara so Gaara would have turned out be a murdering psychopath. Instead of becoming Kazakage.
 

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Shawnd, didn't we already have an arguement over something else? (Don't remember exactly what tho)

Sasuke keeps his eyes, just doesn't have the activated Sharingan. I give props to the guy becuase he is a very skilled shinobi and without his Sharingan is probably around high chuunin to middle jounin level. But frankly, Sasuke seems to be abandoning his former skills for the Sharingan, and in practically EVERY battle he is in, he uses either the Sharingan and its abilities, Curse Seal (which is gone now), or someone jumps in to help.

Now this part: "its like taki naruto body away and jus leavin his eyes on the battlefield to fight sasuke!! you should really consider who has the handicap here!!"

Makes absolutly no sense to me. Mind breaking down a bit, becuase I can't understand what you're saying.
what im sayin is... sasuke and naruto are both gifted in ways inherited from the so6p himself.. naruto inherited his body, sasukes the eyes... now sasuke gets a GK known as sharigan form the so6p.. naruto gets his body which gives him alot of stamina and chakra.. im takin away sasuke eyes jus to fight naruto.. but naruto gets to keep his so6p body u get it.. im sayin its not really fair to sasuke bcuz hes born with those eyes.. and narutos born with that body
 
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