Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)
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Ok even without sage mode Naruto is stronger than Sasuke and I feel these comments going around in circles so this is the last comment i will be posting on this thread as there is no point telling you who would win as you will probally just go no Sasuke wins he can never lose. So reply I wont look at what you put but whatever.
Naruto would win. For all you ******s out there that call me a "fanboy," Naruto has the sages body. Sasuke has the sages eyes. If Sasuke can't use the sharingan, he loses. Simply because Naruto doesn't need the fox to still have the sages body.
Alright you are getting on my nerves. Let's break it down a little, ne?
Kirin: Lightning/Raiton jutsu.
Naruto could use his chakra as a barrier or use Fuuton/Wind style Rasengan.
If Naruto feels he needs to, he'll use Rasen Shuriken, non-throwable.
Bye-bye Kirin. Wanna know why?
Fuuton/Wind beats Raiton/Lightning. Naruto has wind chakra which could easily cut through lightning and Sasuke has Katon/Fire and Raiton/Lightning.
Sure Naruto's at a disadvantage if he uses wind chakra against a Katon/Fire style jutsu (unless he prepares it faster, then the jutsu can cut through, but barely) but if Sasuke uses Raiton, it ain't going to do much if Naruto knows to counter it.
Now about the speed? Stop underrating Naruto's speed and strength.
Even without the fox, as an Uzumaki, who are blessed with an ENORMOUS amount of chakra and stamina, I think Naruto could pull through even if struck with Kirin.
Now about the whole arguement of the speed, stfu becuase I'm tired of it and I bet many others are becuase you're repeating what another posts before OVER AND OVER.
Taking away Naruto's SM and fox while taking Sasuke's Sharingan? As someone mentioned before that is truly unfair becuase you're giving Naruto an additional handicap. Sure you said the curse seal, BUT IT'S ALREADY GONE.
I'm going Naruto all the way.
if you are referring to that i think it's about chakra control (chains) not amount.
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yes, they say that they have big chakra reserves, but not huge. it's like with the uchiha, they have much chakra, but not always insanely much like A and bijuus.
Futur3Cha0s
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it didnt say uzumaki have large chakra reserves. it said kushina was born with a lot of chakra reserves that doesnt mean all uzumaki has high chakra reserves. a lot of chakra is not an uzumaki trait, it was never stated. that where people are wrong they are making assumptions and generalizations that arent true at the moment
naruto cant build a wind barrier.Alright you are getting on my nerves. Let's break it down a little, ne?
Kirin: Lightning/Raiton jutsu.
Naruto could use his chakra as a barrier or use Fuuton/Wind style Rasengan.
If Naruto feels he needs to, he'll use Rasen Shuriken, non-throwable.
Bye-bye Kirin. Wanna know why?
Fuuton/Wind beats Raiton/Lightning. Naruto has wind chakra which could easily cut through lightning and Sasuke has Katon/Fire and Raiton/Lightning.
Sure Naruto's at a disadvantage if he uses wind chakra against a Katon/Fire style jutsu (unless he prepares it faster, then the jutsu can cut through, but barely) but if Sasuke uses Raiton, it ain't going to do much if Naruto knows to counter it.
Now about the speed? Stop underrating Naruto's speed and strength.
Even without the fox, as an Uzumaki, who are blessed with an ENORMOUS amount of chakra and stamina, I think Naruto could pull through even if struck with Kirin.
Now about the whole arguement of the speed, stfu becuase I'm tired of it and I bet many others are becuase you're repeating what another posts before OVER AND OVER.
Taking away Naruto's SM and fox while taking Sasuke's Sharingan? As someone mentioned before that is truly unfair becuase you're giving Naruto an additional handicap. Sure you said the curse seal, BUT IT'S ALREADY GONE.
I'm going Naruto all the way.
wind-rasengan wont be enough to block kirin, and if sasuke forces naruto into more than one or two frs, it's over for naruto.
if frs meets kirin and naruto is immediately below the impact, he'll be either severely hurt or die. not because kirin hits him, but just because of the explosion that will occur.
chakra is no shield, if anyone is hit by kirin and doesnt have a perfect defensive jutsu, he'll die. it's not like bleach where you can hit a character and he has a reiatsu shield, if you dont use chakra it's worthless.
naruto cant counter raiton easily because he has no moves to do it. yes, he will win a direct clash of chidori and wind rasengan, but sasuke would be an idiot to do it. he can out-range naruto with his whole jutsu arsenal and is at least on par (in my eyes faster, and i have read no point why that should be different) on speed.
are you really debating that the fantasy-battle-thread is unfair?
apart from that sasuke is way more used to sharingan than naruto to his modes, it's like saying that sasuke cant use a leg.
i know, i agreed with you
.my commentary wasnt meant at your adress, i wasted my valuable time to answer to that commentary:
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Kyoto Samurai
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naruto would win he doesn't need the fox to do sage mode... and sage mode would own sasuke if he doesn't use sharingan.
and don't forget lighting is week against wind so kirin wouldn't do shit to rasenshuriken... rasenshuriken would cancle it... and with all that being said ur links to the manga that tells how the rasenshuriken messes naruto up as well... doesn't matter with sage mode...
and don't forget lighting is week against wind so kirin wouldn't do shit to rasenshuriken... rasenshuriken would cancle it... and with all that being said ur links to the manga that tells how the rasenshuriken messes naruto up as well... doesn't matter with sage mode...
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lol handicap.. how is it a handicap for naruto... its a handicap for sasuke bcuz the sharigan is his eyes... its like taki naruto body away and jus leavin his eyes on the battlefield to fight sasuke!! you should really consider who has the handicap here!!Alright you are getting on my nerves. Let's break it down a little, ne?
Kirin: Lightning/Raiton jutsu.
Naruto could use his chakra as a barrier or use Fuuton/Wind style Rasengan.
If Naruto feels he needs to, he'll use Rasen Shuriken, non-throwable.
Bye-bye Kirin. Wanna know why?
Fuuton/Wind beats Raiton/Lightning. Naruto has wind chakra which could easily cut through lightning and Sasuke has Katon/Fire and Raiton/Lightning.
Sure Naruto's at a disadvantage if he uses wind chakra against a Katon/Fire style jutsu (unless he prepares it faster, then the jutsu can cut through, but barely) but if Sasuke uses Raiton, it ain't going to do much if Naruto knows to counter it.
Now about the speed? Stop underrating Naruto's speed and strength.
Even without the fox, as an Uzumaki, who are blessed with an ENORMOUS amount of chakra and stamina, I think Naruto could pull through even if struck with Kirin.
Now about the whole arguement of the speed, stfu becuase I'm tired of it and I bet many others are becuase you're repeating what another posts before OVER AND OVER.
Taking away Naruto's SM and fox while taking Sasuke's Sharingan? As someone mentioned before that is truly unfair becuase you're giving Naruto an additional handicap. Sure you said the curse seal, BUT IT'S ALREADY GONE.
I'm going Naruto all the way.
kimikokoro1
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naruto cant use sage mode, the creator of the thread didnt allow it.
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without the fox naruto would have lost in the VotE against sasuke's second chidori, it wouldnt have been a fight. he could never tell which naruto was the real one and a rasengan barrage is countered easily by katon or chidori senbon.
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chickmagnet
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lol the shariangan is wat makes susake all he is without it he would be crap if u think about it naruto would be a beast none the less hell he would have way more control over his chakra prolly more than any1 he would learn from his dad who is a beast and his mom and inherit large amount of chakra from both of them and i forgot to add his uzumaki he would still have alot of chakra and learn mad seals from his mom and dad coz if u say no 9tails that would mean his parents would be alive since they never encountered the 9tails and he would also still be eligible to learn sage mode and prolly still woulda learn a few things from the jman susake stands no shot
oro taught him that tec he wouldn't have it without the shariangan either susake wouldn't really get anywhere without that thing b4 any1 says no take another look at every skill susake has acquired so far
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Naruto will be defeated, you all think he is powerful, but exclusive manga clearly demonstrates that once the battles intensify Naruto will be killed by Susuke as they battle aggressively and relentlessly against each other, however, Susuke's powers overcome Naruto's. In the end, a new savior will arise, in the most indescribable manner, as the battles have not even commenced, that is, these are merely childish encounters at this moment.
Jonathonn4
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Naruto would win because of sage mode, and because taking away the sharingan takes away almost everything from sauske. Naruto has tried to avoid using the fox since he went into the 4th tail for the first time, and he has only used the fox form once, when fighting pain. Sauske on the other hand has used it in every fight since he acquired the sharingan and had never learned to fight without it. Without the fox naruto would be able to merge with the grand frog sages, a form he has never used and would increase his power. Sauske's iconic moves, the chidori and lightning sword explicitly use the sharingan to be able to attack rapidly as well as having perfect aim, taking the sharingan away from sauske, which is the heart of his power, makes sauske a babe in swadeling cloth while allowing naruto to increase his power dramatically by taking away the fox's interference.