Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)

Who do you think would win under these circumstances.

  • Naruto

    Votes: 297 74.4%
  • Sasuke

    Votes: 102 25.6%

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well sasuke and naruto havn't really battle in part 2 and when they did sasuke far outclassed naruto and the 3rd ninja databook says that sasuke's speed is a 4.5 and they might have equal taijutsu but sasuke has a sword and how is it that naruto has more chakra without the 9-tails it doesn't eat naruto's chakra at every second were did you come up with that.
naruto doesnt have more chakra its just that he can utilize more. some of his chakra goes to the seal to keep the 9tails sealed. without the 9tails he no longer needs the chakra to go to the seal so he can use it in battle. also, without the fox naruto will not have any trouble performing his jutsu and he will have better chakra control. better chakra control=less chakra being used per jutsu=more chakra to use
 

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well sasuke and naruto havn't really battle in part 2 and when they did sasuke far outclassed naruto and the 3rd ninja databook says that sasuke's speed is a 4.5 and they might have equal taijutsu but sasuke has a sword and how is it that naruto has more chakra without the 9-tails it doesn't eat naruto's chakra at every second were did you come up with that.
naruto has kunais which he can seep wind into. wind cuts dude. and that was the beginning of part 2 naruto has gotten alot stronger. just luk at the poll naruto wins.:p
 

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well sasuke and naruto havn't really battle in part 2 and when they did sasuke far outclassed naruto and the 3rd ninja databook says that sasuke's speed is a 4.5 and they might have equal taijutsu but sasuke has a sword and how is it that naruto has more chakra without the 9-tails it doesn't eat naruto's chakra at every second were did you come up with that.
The so called outclassed is that when Naruto did not even fight back against him not because he could'nt it was because he decided not to.
 

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He learned that Jutsu from Orochimaru, if he had never had the Sharingan then Ororchimaru would have never tried to get Sasuke. Sasuke would never of had the Curse Seal. Any & every Jutsu he learned from Oro he would not have. & he never would have got that Sword he uses Chidori threw. & In the Manga it is said that Kabuto using his medical Jutsu gave Sasuke's body upgrades, so that would have never happened.

Sasuke without the Sharingan would be a ordinary Shinobi that could use Fire Style & maybe Lighting but he probably have never learned Chidori in the 1st place because he used Sharingan to copy Kakashi. & he would not have been able to use it that well anyways. Remember Kakashi couldn't use Chidori right until after he got Obito's Sharingan.
without the 9-tails inside naruto, naruto wouldn't of had the special training from jiraiya or the toads, so naruto wouldn't have had the rasengan, the toad summong and if naruto didn't have the 9-tails he wouldn't of had a bad childhood so he wouldn't try so hard to be reckognized, so the only reason naruto had alot of guts and fierce determination was because of the need to become stronger to be reckognized and respected. so both sasuke and naruto became as strong as they are through the stuff they have so it's fairgame.

I did read the rules no one said he can't enter the battle as sage mode so Fail fanboy.
the rules say that there is no sage mode which includes entering it at the start of the match, so you fail fanboy.
 

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i saw something in one of the posts about the last clash between naruto and sasuke after the danzo fight. someone said that that happened to prove that naruto was equal in speed to sasuke and they gave their source as narutopedia or something. where was this actually stated if it was stated at all?
 

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He learned that Jutsu from Orochimaru, if he had never had the Sharingan then Ororchimaru would have never tried to get Sasuke. Sasuke would never of had the Curse Seal. Any & every Jutsu he learned from Oro he would not have. & he never would have got that Sword he uses Chidori threw. & In the Manga it is said that Kabuto using his medical Jutsu gave Sasuke's body upgrades, so that would have never happened.

Sasuke without the Sharingan would be a ordinary Shinobi that could use Fire Style & maybe Lighting but he probably have never learned Chidori in the 1st place because he used Sharingan to copy Kakashi. & he would not have been able to use it that well anyways. Remember Kakashi couldn't use Chidori right until after he got Obito's Sharingan.
i doubt that oro teached him kirin, it's a fire lightning combination, how is oro who never used a single elemental jutsu supposed to teach it to him? apart from that sasuke chooses it's name when he uses it against itachi. i doubt that he learned any jutsu immediately from oro, i think he just used oro's training methods to become stronger faster.

he didnt copy kakashis chidori, he copied lees taijutsus. he learned chidori. sasuke without the sharingan would be still a genius.

apart from that i think the discussion is about the moment they are currently minus sharingan, modes and summoning.
 

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without the 9-tails inside naruto, naruto wouldn't of had the special training from jiraiya or the toads, so naruto wouldn't have had the rasengan, the toad summong and if naruto didn't have the 9-tails he wouldn't of had a bad childhood so he wouldn't try so hard to be reckognized, so the only reason naruto had alot of guts and fierce determination was because of the need to become stronger to be reckognized and respected. so both sasuke and naruto became as strong as they are through the stuff they have so it's fairgame.



the rules say that there is no sage mode which includes entering it at the start of the match, so you fail fanboy.
naruto is minato's son so jiraiya would probably still have trained him even if he didn't have 9tails. and no tails also means mintao is still alive if you want to make that argument. minato still alive means naruto is genius at birth since he will learn all of his dad's jutsu including ftg. even if minato dead naruto still trained by jiraiya.
 

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jus by sheer talent alone sasuke is bttr on paper, but with his will to never give up n superior chakra reserve even without foxmode, naruto wud win but by a slim margin.....
 
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It really depends on the circumstances; if Naruto and Sasuke were all friendly and randomly decided to spar in an environment that somehow took away summoning, Kyuubi, Sage Mode, Sharingan, and Curse Mark, then I'd say Naruto would win. Without Chidori or Kirin, Sasuke only has taijutsu (Lion Combo included, since he can to that without the Sharingan) and Katon jutsus. I haven't read anything in the manga that highlights Sasuke's speed, but I could have missed something. Naruto, on the other hand, can still use Rasengan, and he can still spam clones even without the Kyuubi's chakra. He is no less skilled at battle tactics than Sasuke, even if Sasuke has more book-smarts.

Of course, in a hostile, life or death situation, Sasuke might win because Naruto doesn't want to kill him, no matter what he tells Tsunade and his friends.
 

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naruto is minato's son so jiraiya would probably still have trained him even if he didn't have 9tails. and no tails also means mintao is still alive if you want to make that argument. minato still alive means naruto is genius at birth since he will learn all of his dad's jutsu including ftg. even if minato dead naruto still trained by jiraiya.
if naruto would be a genius just because his dad would teach him some techs then why isn't kakashi considered on the same level?
 

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the thread creator said no sage mode allowed
Even so without the Sharrigan Sasuke is weaker compared to Naruto as he is a Uzimaki and it is well known they are born with a lot of Chakra.

I did read the rules but I did not know that he was not able to enter the battle as sage mode.
 

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if naruto would be a genius just because his dad would teach him some techs then why isn't kakashi considered on the same level?
kakashi isnt minato's son and he doesnt have chakra reserves to pull of minato's jutsu. also kakashi was a genius at birth. kakashi graduated academy at age 5 and became chunin at age 6. he also become jonin at age 13. kakashi was a genius without sharingan. all of these accomplishments were better than itachi, just saying.
 

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without the 9-tails inside naruto, naruto wouldn't of had the special training from jiraiya or the toads, so naruto wouldn't have had the rasengan, the toad summong and if naruto didn't have the 9-tails he wouldn't of had a bad childhood so he wouldn't try so hard to be reckognized, so the only reason naruto had alot of guts and fierce determination was because of the need to become stronger to be reckognized and respected. so both sasuke and naruto became as strong as they are through the stuff they have so it's fairgame.



the rules say that there is no sage mode which includes entering it at the start of the match, so you fail fanboy.
Lol Fanboy Im Neutral I say it how it is I don't say someone can win just because I prefer them to other characters and your clearly a Uchiha fanboy.
 

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Even so without the Sharrigan Sasuke is weaker compared to Naruto as he is a Uzimaki and it is well known they are born with a lot of Chakra.

I did read the rules but I did not know that he was not able to enter the battle as sage mode.
where does that rumor come from that uzumaki are born with lots of chakra? we have only 2 uzumaki seen in battle ever and kushina didnt mention any chakra reserves, just sealing jutsus.
 

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where does that rumor come from that uzumaki are born with lots of chakra? we have only 2 uzumaki seen in battle ever and kushina didnt mention any chakra reserves, just sealing jutsus.
it was never stated. people are just generalizing because naruto and nagato had a lot of chakra. but either way naruto still has a huge amount of chakra. i'd put his regular chakra levels on par with tailed beasts just like kisame and A (4th raikage)
 

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Lol Fanboy Im Neutral I say it how it is I don't say someone can win just because I prefer them to other characters and your clearly a Uchiha fanboy.
i am far from being a fanboy i choose how much i like someone only based on their strength and skills not their personality. they could be the meanest and brattiest person, but if their powerful then i like them:D.
 

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naruto has kunais which he can seep wind into. wind cuts dude. and that was the beginning of part 2 naruto has gotten alot stronger. just luk at the poll naruto wins.:p
naruto never ever used kunais, i doubt that he's skilled enough with them to fight sasuke with a sword.
polls always tell the truth, just make a minato vs madara (juubi) thread to prove it ;)

i saw something in one of the posts about the last clash between naruto and sasuke after the danzo fight. someone said that that happened to prove that naruto was equal in speed to sasuke and they gave their source as narutopedia or something. where was this actually stated if it was stated at all?
does that matter? if naruto was equal in speed at that time, it means that sasuke's speed is overall far superior, since he was completely exhausted at that time.

naruto doesnt have more chakra its just that he can utilize more. some of his chakra goes to the seal to keep the 9tails sealed. without the 9tails he no longer needs the chakra to go to the seal so he can use it in battle. also, without the fox naruto will not have any trouble performing his jutsu and he will have better chakra control. better chakra control=less chakra being used per jutsu=more chakra to use
i dont think that chakra is the problem these two have if they cant use frs, susano'o and amaterasu.
the more deciding question in my eyes is weather naruto can use frs, if he can survive or block kirin and weather sasuke can counter taiju kagebunshin with rasengans.

in my eyes sasuke can block the bunshin, since he has with katon and especially chidori senbon extremely capable tools against kagebunshin.

considering the way tsunade reacts naruto isnt allowed to use frs at all, and i doubt that he can use it more than one or two times without loosing his ability to form chakra.

i doubt that naruto can survive kirin if he doesnt use frs against it. so it's all about frs.

it was never stated. people are just generalizing because naruto and nagato had a lot of chakra. but either way naruto still has a huge amount of chakra. i'd put his regular chakra levels on par with tailed beasts just like kisame and A (4th raikage)
concerning his chakra level i think you are right. but like we have seen with kisame and kb, chakra doesnt equal strength.
 
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