Lord Painz
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MAn u really cant say he just pick it up since he was able to get through gaara defence back in those days no one really touch gaara
Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)
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Futur3Cha0s
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if we're talking about sasuke now but cant use sharingan he cant use chidori because its too dangerous. the tunnel effect (stated by lee and minato) will allow naruto to beat sasuke if sasuke uses chidori in battle without sharingan
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and perhaps you need to re-read manga or watch anime (part where sasuke first uses chidori and kakashi gaiden where kakashi first uses chidori). it is stated both times that without sharingan chidori is too dangerous to use. sasuke may be able to learn it and use it but it would be too dangerous to do so and would end up getting himself killed.
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proof of what i say. read it and you will understand why sasuke wont be able to use it in battle.
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Lord Painz
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Sasuke wins this fight, naruto was too hot headed when he was younger in fights even way, i only can think of one fight where naruto doesnt ur the fox power (hes first fight in the exams)
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we've watched them fight the whole series with these abilities, how are we supposed to jnow how they'd perform if they didn't have those abilities.
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i dont understand why naruto cant use sage mode. thats unfair in my opinion since he learned that on his own. naruto sage mode would crush sasuke no sharingan. if we take away sasuke's sharingan but allow him to keep all of his abilities (even the ones he was only able to learn using sharingan) then we should allow naruto to keep all of his abilities after losing the fox (even the abilities he mastered on his own without the fox, for example sage mode). but whatever i guess taking away sage mode makes it a more fair fight for sasuke
no.. naruto SM is more of a challenege to shippuden sasuke.. face it.. the fox chakra is enough to take on loads of shinobi at once.. wiothout that naruto is basically a sittin duck.. well not anymore bcuz he do have SM.. mind u he only beat pein with it bcuz pein had to recharge plus naruto had intel on him.. plus pein needed him alive.. 3 reasons why pein actuallyl ost.. not bcuz of naruto's strenght and it was the fox 6-8 tails that did it anyway in the end
not SM
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agree with nagato part. in my opinion nagato truly won that battle. however, sasuke no sharingan cant use amaterasu or susanoo so what does that leave him? naruto sage mode went toe to toe with nagato. sasuke no sharingan would be dead in seconds. yes sasuke still has good skills and is above average shinobi without sharingan but he isnt above kakashi's level (sasuke without sharingan) and is certainly nowhere near naruto's level (with sage mode). if sasuke no sharingan could beat naruto with sage mode then sasuke wouldn't need to be spamming MS techniques and going blind. and do you understand my point about the chidori?no.. naruto SM is more of a challenege to shippuden sasuke.. face it.. the fox chakra is enough to take on loads of shinobi at once.. wiothout that naruto is basically a sittin duck.. well not anymore bcuz he do have SM.. mind u he only beat pein with it bcuz pein had to recharge plus naruto had intel on him.. plus pein needed him alive.. 3 reasons why pein actuallyl ost.. not bcuz of naruto's strenght and it was the fox 6-8 tails that did it anyway in the end
HAHAHA spamming MS techniques thats funny.. :rofl: yes i understand it now.. at first i jus thought u had to be fast.. its the tunnel effect like u said.. sasuke wud be vunrable even if he can see.. but with sharigan hes able to monever(spelling) with it
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than what battle has sasuke won on his own or without a curse mark?!?!?!??!no.. naruto SM is more of a challenege to shippuden sasuke.. face it.. the fox chakra is enough to take on loads of shinobi at once.. wiothout that naruto is basically a sittin duck.. well not anymore bcuz he do have SM.. mind u he only beat pein with it bcuz pein had to recharge plus naruto had intel on him.. plus pein needed him alive.. 3 reasons why pein actuallyl ost.. not bcuz of naruto's strenght and it was the fox 6-8 tails that did it anyway in the end
sasuke vs oro: sasuke killed oro when he was ill and curse mark
sasuke vs deidera: deidera(clay bomb guy) blew him self up and curse mark
sasuke vs itachi: itachi could have won easily but didn't and died of a disease
sasuke vs B: sasuke had the help of and saved by kirin juugo and the water dude
sasuke vs raikage: gaara saved him
sasuke vs danzo: danzo was saving up to fight madara later on and was saved by kirin
so without curse mark or other people constantly helping him sasuke would have have lost as well
Ok, idk ppl bring up irrelevant shit.
But to get back on topic, Naruto Vs SAsuke (shippuden) No Sharingan, No sage mode, no kyubi, no summons.
Naruto's Arsenal(without those buffs):
Multi Shadow Clone jutsu (up to a thousand or more)
Multi shadow clone Rendans
Rasengan (and all it's forms)
Deceptive NInja Trait
Huge Chakara supply
ALOT OF STAMINA
Sasuke(no sharingan):
Speed
Taijutsu Abilities
Fire jutsu
Chidori {probalby only chidori nagashi and sword, maybe kirin} but he wont be able to pierce good with it, cuz he's missing sharingan, but that's not much of an issue against naruto.
The way i look at it Naruto would end up tiring sasuke depleting all of his chakara reseves, with sasuke contentiously trying to use his fire jutsu and chidori combinations to destroy naruto's clones, without sharingan he won't be able to figure out which one to aim for and would have to resort to taking them all out.
Naruto with his Good stamina would last longer, and deal the final blow when sasuke finally tires out.
But to get back on topic, Naruto Vs SAsuke (shippuden) No Sharingan, No sage mode, no kyubi, no summons.
Naruto's Arsenal(without those buffs):
Multi Shadow Clone jutsu (up to a thousand or more)
Multi shadow clone Rendans
Rasengan (and all it's forms)
Deceptive NInja Trait
Huge Chakara supply
ALOT OF STAMINA
Sasuke(no sharingan):
Speed
Taijutsu Abilities
Fire jutsu
Chidori {probalby only chidori nagashi and sword, maybe kirin} but he wont be able to pierce good with it, cuz he's missing sharingan, but that's not much of an issue against naruto.
The way i look at it Naruto would end up tiring sasuke depleting all of his chakara reseves, with sasuke contentiously trying to use his fire jutsu and chidori combinations to destroy naruto's clones, without sharingan he won't be able to figure out which one to aim for and would have to resort to taking them all out.
Naruto with his Good stamina would last longer, and deal the final blow when sasuke finally tires out.
Futur3Cha0s
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glad you understand. also, zetsu said that naruto sage mode was better than sasuke MS (before he got susanoo power-up) so sasuke no sharingan, sorry to say, is no match for naruto.
note: the part about sasuke being no match only holds true if zetsu was correct in that naruto SM was better than MS sasuke. if its not, well naruto is still better but it would be a better match
dude.. ur whole speech sounded retard.. danzo simply didnt beat sasuke bcuz he was TOO cocky.. nothin more.. and sasuke and naruto saved eachother numberous times.. thats not wat i was tryin to say
why wud u take away sage mode. he trained for tht. when i read the title i was oh naruto got this. but then i read the description"no sage mode" and i was this motha *bleepbleepbleep* lol but yea sasuke wud win tho.
reason why naruto has no sage mode bcuz i wud have to give sasuke curse mark.. but every1 knows curse mark lvl 2 is on par with tailed best forms.. so yea if naruto got sage mode then sasuke wud need curse mark.. but that wouldnt be fair for naruto though
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if danzo didn't have to worry about fighting madara after sasuke than he would have use susui(spelling) eyes alot quicker and you sound a lot like a fanboy since you don't want to listen to other people