Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)

[Shawnd]

still the sharingan made it a whole lot easier to accomplish. lee said it took years to get his speed but sasuke was able to do it in like a month thanks to the sharingan.

thats bcuz hes an uchiha.. hes able to learn fast and take lots of damage and have huge amounts of reserves of chakra similar to naruto's ability to be able to make lots of clones.. not 1000 without fox but alot jus bcuz hes a senju(physically inhanced shinobi)

 

[Sominus]

still the sharingan made it a whole lot easier to accomplish. lee said it took years to get his speed but sasuke was able to do it in like a month thanks to the sharingan.

Untrue again. I will repeat myself. He copied the movements, it was hard work for Lee to learn those. The sharingan can't increase or copy speed...

he obtained his speed using sharingan. KG or not whats the difference from the 9 tails. naruto got that at birth thanks to minato. sasuke got sharingan at birth thanks to being born in to uchiha clan. really there is no difference they were both just lucky to inherit a powerful weapon.

Just my saying ^^

hmm intersting.. i should have made this post.. naruto with SG vs Sasuke no sharigan.. bcuz sasuke without sharigan is still very fast and he can still see fast.. think bout it rock lee moves lightning fast which means he can also see that fast.. SG naruto really is fast but i dont think hes on par with sasuke normal speed.. SG naruto is probably on par with sasuke speed when he fought gaara during chuunin exams..

Man you're really overrating Sasukes speed and underrating Narutos. Did you see how fast he was taking out the first Pain? Sasuke has never been shown faster than that...

 

[Shawnd]

If sasuke can use chidori and lions combo than sage mode should be fair game because he learned sage mode but sasuke copied lion combo from rock lee and chidori from kakashi

i agree.. naruto sage mode is good game for sasuke without sharigan!

 

[-Naruto-]

Naruto earned sage mode so why not include that? He learned it just like ****** earned chidori

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

why are people saying sasuke no sharingan is stronger than naruto? lets remind ourselves sasuke no sharingan has only fire style and good set of skills. an extremely talented ninja as some people are saying about sasuke is what kakashi is. sasuke at age 13 (no sharingan) was strongest in class of weak ninja. if he was truly skilled without sharingan (like kakashi) he should have been a chunin or jonin when he was 13. but no he only got truly strong after he got sharingan. so to sum it up, if naruto loses SM and kuubi then sasuke loses sharingan and most of his abilities.

 

[Iruka]

During the Valley of the End fight wasn't Naruto matching if not exceeding Sasuke even with 2T sharingan? Then when Sasuke developed it into 3T Naruto had to resort to the fox's cloak with only one tail. I do realise that this is a shippuden fight and things have changed, but it was shown in the past that Naruto could keep up with the sharingan without any advantages like sage mode or fox's chakra. Before someone jumps me and says that he only could keep up because he used the fox's chakra for shadow clones, Naruto himself has a large chakra pool without relying on the fox.

 

[Sominus]

During the Valley of the End fight wasn't Naruto matching if not exceeding Sasuke even with 2T sharingan? Then when Sasuke developed it into 3T Naruto had to resort to the fox's cloak with only one tail. I do realise that this is a shippuden fight and things have changed, but it was shown in the past that Naruto could keep up with the sharingan without any advantages like sage mode or fox's chakra. Before someone jumps me and says that he only could keep up because he used the fox's chakra for shadow clones, Naruto himself has a large chakra pool without relying on the fox.

I'd even call it insane. 10 times more then Kakashi...

 

[Lord Painz]

hmm intersting.. i should have made this post.. naruto with SG vs Sasuke no sharigan.. bcuz sasuke without sharigan is still very fast and he can still see fast.. think bout it rock lee moves lightning fast which means he can also see that fast.. SG naruto really is fast but i dont think hes on par with sasuke normal speed.. SG naruto is probably on par with sasuke speed when he fought gaara during chuunin exams..

But sasuke wasnt able to run and move like lee for a long time in his fite with gaara u could tell that sasuke was wearing himself out and sage mode lasts like 5 mins or even more time if he made more clones of sage mode in the frog world place forgot what the place call

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Ya naruto does have good amount of chakra since he is like his MOM an UZUMAKI

 

[Kyuubikiller]

^^^Um, if Sasuke didn't have the Sharingan he definitely wouldn't have gotten that fast.

 

[KAPOOOO]

why are people saying sasuke no sharingan is stronger than naruto? lets remind ourselves sasuke no sharingan has only fire style and good set of skills. an extremely talented ninja as some people are saying about sasuke is what kakashi is. sasuke at age 13 (no sharingan) was strongest in class of weak ninja. if he was truly skilled without sharingan (like kakashi) he should have been a chunin or jonin when he was 13. but no he only got truly strong after he got sharingan. so to sum it up, if naruto loses SM and kuubi then sasuke loses sharingan and most of his abilities.

Sasuke REally fast without sharingan , sharingan not give him speed , naruto with sg km Its Like saskura speed , and they can chidori or rasengan as much they can so what do you think ?

 

[Shawnd]

During the Valley of the End fight wasn't Naruto matching if not exceeding Sasuke even with 2T sharingan? Then when Sasuke developed it into 3T Naruto had to resort to the fox's cloak with only one tail. I do realise that this is a shippuden fight and things have changed, but it was shown in the past that Naruto could keep up with the sharingan without any advantages like sage mode or fox's chakra. Before someone jumps me and says that he only could keep up because he used the fox's chakra for shadow clones, Naruto himself has a large chakra pool without relying on the fox.

during the valley fight sasuke didnt use his sharigan until naruto pulled out fox's chakra not cloak but chakra and naruto eyes turned all red.. then sasuke went 2T sharigan.. so yea.. then he went 3T when naruto went fox cloak!

 

[Sominus]

Sasuke REally fast without sharingan , sharingan not give him speed , naruto with sg km Its Like saskura speed , and they can chidori or rasengan as much they can so what do you think ?

Lol... I won't even bother arguing anymore about the speed. Think what you wanna I'm gonna go get some sleep ._.

 

[Shawnd]

^^^Um, if Sasuke didn't have the Sharingan he definitely wouldn't have gotten that fast.

we're not discussing who would have gotten where... i didnt say that they didnt have fox or sharigan.. im simply sayin from where they are now in shippuden they cant USE it..

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

lets break this one down further. lets make naruto and sasuke 13 again. naruto no fox and sasuke no sharingan. naruto learns shadow clones and rasengan (getting better). sasuke learns... um...nothing (not getting better). even with sharingan sasuke level of growth was small whereas naruto's was huge. lets take away sharingan from sasuke his growth is even smaller. fastforward 10 years and sasuke i'd say would be equal to that of asuma maybe kakashi if he's lucky (minus chidori because cant use without sharingan). whereas naruto would be equal to jiraiya because naruto has enormous amount of chakra, ability to learn fast, and high level jutsu. naruto wins.

however if we are talking about naruto now and sasuke now as if sharingan and fox were just taken away (which means had it at birth and could still learn all techniques that they used them for) sasuke wins because he has superior all around ninja skills besides power.

 

[KAPOOOO]

lets break this one down further. lets make naruto and sasuke 13 again. naruto no fox and sasuke no sharingan. naruto learns shadow clones and rasengan (getting better). sasuke learns... um...nothing (not getting better). even with sharingan sasuke level of growth was small whereas naruto's was huge. lets take away sharingan from sasuke his growth is even smaller. fastforward 10 years and sasuke i'd say would be equal to that of asuma maybe kakashi if he's lucky (minus chidori because cant use without sharingan). whereas naruto would be equal to jiraiya because naruto has enormous amount of chakra, ability to learn fast, and high level jutsu. naruto wins.

however if we are talking about naruto now and sasuke now as if sharingan and fox were just taken away (which means had it at birth and could still learn all techniques that they used them for) sasuke wins because he has superior all around ninja skills besides power.

well, sasuke learn chidori & lion move berfor naruto learn rasengan and clones..

 

[Shawnd]

lets break this one down further. lets make naruto and sasuke 13 again. naruto no fox and sasuke no sharingan. naruto learns shadow clones and rasengan (getting better). sasuke learns... um...nothing (not getting better). even with sharingan sasuke level of growth was small whereas naruto's was huge. lets take away sharingan from sasuke his growth is even smaller. fastforward 10 years and sasuke i'd say would be equal to that of asuma maybe kakashi if he's lucky (minus chidori because cant use without sharingan). whereas naruto would be equal to jiraiya because naruto has enormous amount of chakra, ability to learn fast, and high level jutsu. naruto wins.

however if we are talking about naruto now and sasuke now as if sharingan and fox were just taken away (which means had it at birth and could still learn all techniques that they used them for) sasuke wins because he has superior all around ninja skills besides power.

what the hell r u talkin bout sasuke cant use chidori without sharigan.. dont compare him to 13 yr old kakashi who was able to use.. jus not perfect it.. kakashi was a regular person sasuke has the blood/genes and body of an andvanced clan known as uchiha.. so yes hes pretty capable of usin chidori without sharigan sir!

 

[Iruka]

well, sasuke learn chidori & lion move berfor naruto learn rasengan and clones..

Naruto has been able to use Shadow Clones since he graduated the academy whereas Sasuke picked Chidori up during the exams before his fight with Gaara.

 

[Shawnd]

Naruto has been able to use Shadow Clones since he graduated the academy whereas Sasuke picked Chidori up during the exams before his fight with Gaara.

PEOPLE WE'RE not compare young naruto and sasuke we're comparin shippuden naruto and sasuke they both have their movies they jus cant use fox or sharigan!!

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

what the hell r u talkin bout sasuke cant use chidori without sharigan.. dont compare him to 13 yr old kakashi who was able to use.. jus not perfect it.. kakashi was a regular person sasuke has the blood/genes and body of an andvanced clan known as uchiha.. so yes hes pretty capable of usin chidori without sharigan sir!

as stated by minato the weakness of chidori is the tunnel effect that allows your opponent the ability to counter and you not defend yourself. minato did not allow kakashi to use chidori anymore because of this. it wasnt until he got sharingan that he fully mastered chidori. sasuke no sharingan wont learn chidori from kakashi because he wont teach it to him because it is to dangerous without sharingan abilities.