Naruto sage mode vs sasuke and itachi
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I would say the Uchiha brothers have more chances to win than SM Naruto, especially when the latter has his clone quantity capped due to Senjutsu gathering clones.
It would be quite close though, and the brothers would have to be perfectly in sync to take out Naruto. Especially when he's limited with the amount of clones he can make. Their fight with Kabuto was meant to show they can work in sync, so they'll likely win.
Equally Naruto can use clones and what not, arguably he can use the substitution with clones.
Nevertheless I still think its the Uchiha brothers who have more of a chance of being victorious.
It would be quite close though, and the brothers would have to be perfectly in sync to take out Naruto. Especially when he's limited with the amount of clones he can make. Their fight with Kabuto was meant to show they can work in sync, so they'll likely win.
Equally Naruto can use clones and what not, arguably he can use the substitution with clones.
Nevertheless I still think its the Uchiha brothers who have more of a chance of being victorious.
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Alot of factors helped naruto to beat pain. First thanks to the sacrafices of everyone else naruto already knew the ablities of nagato. without the last minute help from the sixtail naruto would have been captured. Nagato was not ableto use the deva paths abilities from the beginning. Second nagato wasted alot of chakra before hand destroying the villiage chakra he could have used later on in the fight. Based on this the fact that he beat pain does not impress me enough. Itachi would beat sage mode naruto bye himself. adding sasuke to the mix only makes the match easy for the two of them.
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good post. ^^ although to be fair, izanami wouldn't really have effect on Naruto even if Itachi could usei t.
Well, that was my intention^^. I just feared someone would quote it down the line so you did the right thing by spoilering it lol.Lol, this. You convinced me
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I don't know why this is such a widely common misconception. That was a disadvantage in the Pain fight, Naruto mastered SM since then and doesn't have to use clones any more, he enters it instantly.Munboy said:
Black Adam
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Oh I see everyone who said Uchiha wins was being logical and not exhibiting fanboyism at all...?
While everyone who said Naruto wins was being a troll or worse...?
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Come on bro!
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u madness bro?
first i have to apologize beforehand for the malfunctioning shift key.
now i will proceed lol.
good thing genjutsu doesn't affect clones. after the final encounter w/ knowledge after all this time naruto is very well versed to handling itachi's genjutsu which requires eye contact. 2,000 kage bunshin all using giant chou odama rasengans itachi and sasuke are useless in the face of and their genjutsu is exceptionally useless.
i like when people use this all the time, 'pain wasn't trying to kill'. this is completely untrue, 'not trying to kill' doesn't equal all of your paths being one shot. and not having shinra tensei is irrelevant, it would hardly have helped and naruto was at plenty of disadvantages and no knowledge. if it was plot no jutsu, chunin exam sasuke losing to itachi was plot no jutsu. he obviously should have won
and again why compare pain vs naruto[insert question mark]. this is vs itachi, i used most of those pages for evidence to why the opposition gets stomped, its not naruto vs pain.
now youre using appeal to authority lol. i dont care if 5 billion people believe something and some of the smartest men on the planet are on their side, those are both heavily fallacious and don't equal being correct
If what you said was true about naruto's multiple encounters with Itachi was true, this would not have happened:
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His Third encounter with him and still get's caught.
2000 Clones can do nothing against Sasuke's Blaze release
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Pain indeed did not have any intentions to kill naruto. He avoided every vital organ, naruto's life was going to end right there had he wanted it to.
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Chunin sasuke could not defeat an S-Rank Kage level Ninja like Itachi, you know that's absurd.
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LOL your a persistent boy.....although this match goes to the uchihas i actually can say i admire your commitment, because i can't say your being a fanboy, but more or less trying to show that narutos no push over using all these accomplishments if his,but your still a ****ing troll and i usually hate trolls but for you i can make a exception, plus rep for the boldness,and btw if your think im saying this to the creator of this thread im not..im saying this to joki..
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Didn't naruto already state he couldn't beat sasuke with sage mode
Naruto said it himself he needs that power of the nine-tails to fight sasuke
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Naruto said it himself he needs that power of the nine-tails to fight sasuke
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Thanks. :noc:
Now that you mention it, I do see what you mean. Naruto does accept the consequences of his actions, and doesn't try to change a particular event- but rather the future. Izanami wouldn't be wise, though with their knowledge on Naruto (particularly Itachi), I think the Uchiha bros would know this.
My point. After the Pain fight, having clones on the side gather chakra is nothing more than a burden on Naruto as it limits him to 3-4 clones.
Having said that, Naruto's ability to enter Sage Mode swiftly seems to depend on his chakra capacity.
Against the group that tried to stop him from leaving the Bijuu-room (where Iruka tried to stop him), he entered Sage Mode near instantly. Against the Sandaime Raikage, it was the same thing, then again vs Tobi. These were all instances were Naruto's chakra capacity was at a decent level.
Against Madara it took Naruto ages, that Naruto was extremely low on chakra than usual (having gathered a lot of chakra for a failed Bijuu-Dama, and slashing its chakra capacity by making 3 clones in total). That's why it took him a while to enter Sage Mode.
Though Naruto is likely to have a decent chakra level in this battle constantly.
Something he needs to make sure he maintains long enough to win, given that he can't find a spot to hide in this battlefield.
It worked both ways.
Naruto got Kurama Chakra Mode because because he knew he would not beat Sasuke with Sage Mode. Sasuke got the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan because he knew that he could not beat Naruto with the Mangekyou Sharingan.
They were both right on a technicality, they couldn't beat the other. It was as Naruto said, if they fought they'd die. That's what they saw and that's why they went for a higher power than the one they had.
Nevertheless his equality (I think it is safe to consider EMS Sasuke as a MS Sasuke with his level 4 Susanoo due to lack of EMS specific feats), would suggest that the Uchiha bros have an advantage.
If Naruto and Sasuke are tied (as in, one doesn't outrank the other in power), then adding another person on Sasuke's side should tip the scale in the Uchiha bros' favour, so to speak.
this was because he hadn't used any clones whatsoever and wasn't in a serious battle situation. if naruto had 1k clones on the field that can't possibly happen, and he's learned from every single previous encounter.
that little thing will stop 2000 clones all wielding rasengans bigger than cars? itll just fueld the giant rasengans and spread them onto sasuke and itachi as they all explode in their faces.
he 'avoided every vital' because he never hit naruto lol. you're doing it again, this is naruto vs itachi and sasuke, not naruto vs pain.
nope, it was obviously plot no jutsu you can't prove me wrong it was plot no jutsu he should have won.
just like naruto despite not seeing gaara since part 1 said he had the strongest shield after fighting 3rd raikage despite having no possible way to know that? they didnt have a serious fight, they clashed rasengan and chidori one time. naruto's no all knowing determiner of fights.
and he does have the power of the nine tails now
yeah, that was because he had 0 chakra and tsunade refused to heal him. he had to charge his chakra so he could perform and frs.
i kinda figured the op didn't know naruto got over that weakness either.
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@Joke, I will not respond here because none of your arguments countered mine?
I mean really, "he 'avoided every vital' because he never hit naruto lol". Do you understand the concept of avoid, and vital, and could?
I brought up pain because you did first, you made it seem as If SM Naruto > Pain> Uchiha bros which is all rediculous.
Again you cannot just assume naruto will have 1000 clones, and not be caught in Itachi's genjutsu. When has he ever fail to get someone without a sharingan in a genjutsu? Plus naruto tried to get the drop on Itachi so yes it was a serious battle.
What does SM Naruto have against Yata Mirror?
As for plot your telling me you believe a chunnin could defeat an S Rank Ninja? Lol
And as far as your endless shadow clones go OP said he only had 2 extra.
I mean really, "he 'avoided every vital' because he never hit naruto lol". Do you understand the concept of avoid, and vital, and could?
I brought up pain because you did first, you made it seem as If SM Naruto > Pain> Uchiha bros which is all rediculous.
Again you cannot just assume naruto will have 1000 clones, and not be caught in Itachi's genjutsu. When has he ever fail to get someone without a sharingan in a genjutsu? Plus naruto tried to get the drop on Itachi so yes it was a serious battle.
What does SM Naruto have against Yata Mirror?
As for plot your telling me you believe a chunnin could defeat an S Rank Ninja? Lol
And as far as your endless shadow clones go OP said he only had 2 extra.
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This just came to me: is Naruto allowed to fuse with Fukasaku and Shima? If so then that will completely alter his odds at winning the battle.
I guess Naruto's odds even out if you assume he can summon those two toads, not only because of their jutsu and skill but also because of their Genjutsu.
The question becomes: will the Uchiha bros pressure Naruto enough to do this? I say yes. I assume Kurama's power cannot be used at all, so logically Naruto who'll be stretched so thin has to opt for the next best thing.
I guess Naruto's odds even out if you assume he can summon those two toads, not only because of their jutsu and skill but also because of their Genjutsu.
The question becomes: will the Uchiha bros pressure Naruto enough to do this? I say yes. I assume Kurama's power cannot be used at all, so logically Naruto who'll be stretched so thin has to opt for the next best thing.
