Naruto sage mode vs sasuke and itachi

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Sasuke and itachis best bet against rasenshuriken is to keep there distance from each other and attack flank naruto, as the rasenshuriken explosion is huge can can easily engulf both susanoo's if they are close to one another even if naruto targets sasuke first.
yata mirror deflects any attack meaning even with it's expansion it can't penetrate it or go past it, Consider FRS negated
 

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here we see sasuke effortlessely spam blaze release magatamas. if sasuke uses this seriously then he will take out narutos clones.
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narutos clones arent surviving double amaterasu. especially not when sasuke can use enton and manipulate the flames to kill any remaining clones.
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yes itachis susano has the yata mirror that was stated to be able to take any attack. rasenshuriken is an attack and will be nullified. you do realize that the durability of an ems susano is far greater than a ms susano right? sasukes final form ems susano can tank rasenshuriken. it also has a shield of its own for deflecting attacks.
 

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yata mirror deflects any attack meaning even with it's expansion it can't penetrate it or go past it, Consider FRS negated
LETS NOT FOR GET KARUMAS SIZE
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Now the scope of one of naruto's sage techs, this will engulf both of them.

Lets look at the size of a rasenshuriken compared to karuma, to get an idea of the explosion size (just in case you argue that naruto would not use the tech above on sasuke and itachi)

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Do you see now?? It's GIGANTIC.

Yata mirror or not the explosion would engulf the entire susanoo, everything protected by the yata would remain but everything else would be critically damaged or destroyed.
 

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Uhh, well for one because there's a barrage of them, two because Tsunade's punch ended up breaking through, three because they were said to hollow out an entire mountain, four because Naruto was in base, five because he ca barrage with FRS, six because Itachi's Susano'o has never taken attacks to that level etc etc.

He also hadn't seen Gaara since part 1, he had absolutely no way or knowing that or even using that logically. He was being a 'fanboy' lol. Clashing Chidori + Rasengan one time also is a different thing than "knowing".
Fom what the battle tobi told him about sasuke and itachi and from gaara telling him about the one at the kage summit you he has info on sasuke so he would know. As for gaara part of course he's seen him wasn't it naruto and etc who came to rescue him in the beginning of shippuden?
 

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here we see sasuke effortlessely spam blaze release magatamas. if sasuke uses this seriously then he will take out narutos clones.
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narutos clones arent surviving double amaterasu. especially not when sasuke can use enton and manipulate the flames to kill any remaining clones.
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yes itachis susano has the yata mirror that was stated to be able to take any attack. rasenshuriken is an attack and will be nullified. you do realize that the durability of an ems susano is far greater than a ms susano right? sasukes final form ems susano can tank rasenshuriken. it also has a shield of its own for deflecting attacks.
Where were the magatamas, what I saw was amaterasu summoned from the amamterasu flame that sasukes susanoo was holding onto, and it did not destroy an army as you claimed it would.

The yata mirror is a legendary item and does not just come with susanoo's.

I do not believe the majority narutos clones will run into an amaterasu, but one of the main aims of the clones is also for battle assessment.
 

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Where were the magatamas, what I saw was amaterasu summoned from the amamterasu flame that sasukes susanoo was holding onto, and it did not destroy an army as you claimed it would.

The yata mirror is a legendary item and does not just come with susanoo's.

I do not believe the majority narutos clones will run into an amaterasu, but one of the main aims of the clones is also for battle assessment.
those are amaterasu magatamas. my point was that sasukes blaze release magatamas were suited for taking out multiple targets. it doesnt matter if yata mirror doesnt naturally come with susano. its on their now so it has to be accounted for. narutos clones dont have to run into blaze release/amaterasu because it will hit them. they arent surviving blaze release magatamas or double amaterasu. a few sword slashes from susano could also take them out if they are within range.
 

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it doesn;t surround but it protects the entire front which is all he needs why would he let a clone get behind him and attack. And if u still insist. Sasuke is also in this fight mind u, he amaterasu some of them, shoot them down and so on....
Also how many FRS can naruto use in sage mode?
How could he not? Naruto can form clones wherever he wants.
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Naruto can make as many as he wants, he has basically infinite chakra. Forcefully stealing from Kurama each clone with 8% chakra made at least 3 FRS, Rasengan Planet, regular rasengan, the extra clones formed made an entire other FRS. And now he cooperates, Naruto at full chakra can make 12 times that many with ease.
rasenshuriken is strong yes but it can't beat yata mirror. naruto cannot create a barrage of FRS in SM
Yes he can, easily, it's already been shown that he could, but COR will suffice.
LETS NOT FOR GET KARUMAS SIZE
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Now the scope of one of naruto's sage techs, this will engulf both of them.

Lets look at the size of a rasenshuriken compared to karuma, to get an idea of the explosion size (just in case you argue that naruto would not use the tech above on sasuke and itachi)

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Do you see now?? It's GIGANTIC.

Yata mirror or not the explosion would engulf the entire susanoo, everything protected by the yata would remain but everything else would be critically damaged or destroyed.
Yeah this guy knows what he's talking about

Fom what the battle tobi told him about sasuke and itachi and from gaara telling him about the one at the kage summit you he has info on sasuke so he would know. As for gaara part of course he's seen him wasn't it naruto and etc who came to rescue him in the beginning of shippuden?
Yeah you mean info from another source and he has not witnessed Sasuke fight at all ever from that point?

Yeah, he hasn't seen Gaara fight once since part 1, so.....
 

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those are amaterasu magatamas. my point was that sasukes blaze release magatamas were suited for taking out multiple targets. it doesnt matter if yata mirror doesnt naturally come with susano. its on their now so it has to be accounted for. narutos clones dont have to run into blaze release/amaterasu because it will hit them. they arent surviving blaze release magatamas or double amaterasu. a few sword slashes from susano could also take them out if they are within range.
so both sasuke and itachi have a one of a kind legendary item?
 

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so both sasuke and itachi have a one of a kind legendary item?
i never said sasuke had it. itachi has the yata mirror and it can tank all of narutos jutsu. the durability of an ems susano is greater than a ms susano. sasukes ems susano can tank rasenshuriken. it also has a shield of its own to deflect attacks. its not the yata mirror but the increased durability of an ems susano makes up for it.
 

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how is this even a conversation? Sasuke and itachi fought kabuto in sage mode and the only reason out went as long as it did is because they were trying to immobilize him rather than kill him. If they intended to kill naruto they would do so easily.
 

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i never said sasuke had it. itachi has the yata mirror and it can tank all of narutos jutsu. the durability of an ems susano is greater than a ms susano. sasukes ems susano can tank rasenshuriken. it also has a shield of its own to deflect attacks. its not the yata mirror but the increased durability of an ems susano makes up for it.
I just don't know why you think a susanoo can tank a rasenshuriken that's all, it is one of the most famously powerful attacks in naruto and you want to say susanoo just tanks it.

It's explosion would leave a massive whole in konoha village only one non beast has survived a direct hit from it, ok and the shino with five hearts survived but that was not a sage mode rasenshuriken.

Just why? Why do you think a susanoo can tank it? A susanoo effects the stamina of the user, puts them in huge amounts of pain, drains large amounts of chakra, and sasuke is meant to withstand theexplosion a rasenshuriken on top of all this?


how is this even a conversation? Sasuke and itachi fought kabuto in sage mode and the only reason out went as long as it did is because they were trying to immobilize him rather than kill him. If they intended to kill naruto they would do so easily.

That was snake sage mode which is different from toad sage mode, also do not forget sage mode increases drastically the power of user, so a beast mode sage mode naruto would be more powerful than a sage mode naruto, because sage mode naruto increases the power of naruto but beast sage mode increases the power of beast mode naruto.

Ergo it is possible for a sage mode naruto to be significantly more powerful than a sage mode kabuto, just as long as base naruto >>> base kabuto (in shear power), remember kabuto was dealt serious damage by part one naruto,
 
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how is this even a conversation? Sasuke and itachi fought kabuto in sage mode and the only reason out went as long as it did is because they were trying to immobilize him rather than kill him. If they intended to kill naruto they would do so easily.
Wut? Kabuto easily one-shot the brothers, Kabuto has more than his fair share of disadvantages. Itachi would have been destroyed and Sasuke already lost within the seconds of the fight. I hate when people act like either brother could have "easily taken him out" if they were "fighting to kill". Fighting to kill=/=getting stomped in every way possible and having no way to defend yourself.
 

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I just don't know why you think a susanoo can tank a rasenshuriken that's all, it is one of the most famously powerful attacks in naruto and you want to say susanoo just tanks it.

It's explosion would leave a massive whole in konoha village only one non beast has survived a direct hit from it, ok and the shino with five hearts survived but that was not a sage mode rasenshuriken.

Just why? Why do you think a susanoo can tank it? A susanoo effects the stamina of the user, puts them in huge amounts of pain, drains large amounts of chakra, and sasuke is meant to withstand theexplosion a rasenshuriken on top of all this?





That was snake sage mode which is different from toad sage mode, also do not forget sage mode increases drastically the power of user, so a beast mode sage mode naruto would be more powerful than a sage mode naruto, because sage mode naruto increases the power of naruto but beast sage mode increases the power of beast mode naruto.

Ergo it is possible for a sage mode naruto to be significantly more powerful than a sage mode kabuto, just as long as base naruto >>> base kabuto (in shear power), remember kabuto was dealt serious damage by part one naruto,
well i think susano is more durable than the third raikage.
 

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LETS NOT FOR GET KARUMAS SIZE
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Now the scope of one of naruto's sage techs, this will engulf both of them.

Lets look at the size of a rasenshuriken compared to karuma, to get an idea of the explosion size (just in case you argue that naruto would not use the tech above on sasuke and itachi)

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Do you see now?? It's GIGANTIC.

Yata mirror or not the explosion would engulf the entire susanoo, everything protected by the yata would remain but everything else would be critically damaged or destroyed.
while they are in the air the clones get amaterasu. it;s not like they will stand there and take the jutsu like Kurama did. And wasn't he holding Kurama in that pic^
 

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How could he not? Naruto can form clones wherever he wants.
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Naruto can make as many as he wants, he has basically infinite chakra. Forcefully stealing from Kurama each clone with 8% chakra made at least 3 FRS, Rasengan Planet, regular rasengan, the extra clones formed made an entire other FRS. And now he cooperates, Naruto at full chakra can make 12 times that many with ease.

Yes he can, easily, it's already been shown that he could, but COR will suffice.
Yeah this guy knows what he's talking about

Yeah you mean info from another source and he has not witnessed Sasuke fight at all ever from that point?

Yeah, he hasn't seen Gaara fight once since part 1, so.....
3 FRS isn't exactly what i would call a barrage, again check how many FRS he can use in sage mode, it is not enough to create a barrage( Against Pein he could only use 3 and was left exhausted). Anything rasengan cannot get past yata mirror. If you say that the clones surround him, sasuke is there to burn them ( Clones behind Itachi), limiting the amount of rasengan he intends to use in his barrage.
 
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