It seems that ni contrast to Obito, Madra will only revive Juubi only when he gets all of the beasts. In this chapter even though the Mazo had got chakra from all the beasts, it didn't start to transform and that's because Madara didn't want to. Nice to see a patient guy. White zetsu's comments though, hillariousXD
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 661 Discussion and 662 Predictions
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Sasuke just came there like nothing and got stabbed with that expression,that was lame...
aaand Tobirama said the dream is not yours to control,Sasuke will TNJ Madara while dying and Tobirama will be final villain
aaand Tobirama said the dream is not yours to control,Sasuke will TNJ Madara while dying and Tobirama will be final villain
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Minato already had his ftg fodderized by juubito, and right now Maddy is pretty much on his level. I'd be wiling to say that Minato wouldn't do any better than Tobirama in that situation.
This is way too much. I heard that Kishi don't even know how to get rid of Madara at this point. EMS Sunano Sasuke and Nine tails sage mode Naruto barely beat Obito with the jubi (without hachibi and Kyuubi). Madara can beats 5 kages without being to serious and when Sasuke can only evenly fight with 1 kage. Now Madara who have Hashirama's sage mode, only 1 of his eye back, easily capture all 9 beasts, knock down tobirama, and stabbed sasuke which I don't know if it is a clone or not, can he even be beaten? Yet Madaral can still become stronger by getting Juubi and his left eye.
There is too much contradictions. Aren't there a phrase where Kakashi mentioned "the new generation will surpass the old." But now I think about it, Madara lived in the war times with a great amount of life and death fighting experience and decades of experiences. How can people who just go on a few mission (Naruto) or being an assassin/killing-people (Sasuke) can be compared to Madara. Madara's Sunano can slice mountains when he don't have Rinnegan.
Even if Madara doesn't become the juubi's jinchuuriki or gets his left back, it is still hard for combined of the hokages, current Kages, naruto and Sasuke to beat Madara. Plus the 1st and 2nd is down, Naruto lost Kurama, 4th lost an arm, and Garra is busy with Naruto. It won't make sense Sasuke suddenly can beat him even with the combine of the rest of kages. I see that Madara can easily combine with Juubi whenever he wants to. So even if Sasuke knock him down or awakens his Rinnegan to fight, Madara can still Combine with Juubi. Can anyone tell me how can we beat this Madara and how about Sage of six path Madara (combined with Juubi)?
I don't even know why Madara continue powering up with Hashimara's cells and Sage mode when the orginal Madara with Rinnegan is stronger than the 5 kagas, and the Main characters (Naruto and Sasuke). Yet he can still power up with Juubi when the main characters are losing. I really never watch a story where the side that has an upper hand continues to gain more powers to double his strength while combine power of the other side can't even touch him yet.
I hope Kishi won't make any weird things like Sasuke looks like Madara's Brother and paused a moment and got stab in the heart or Naruto pick up a fruit from the god tree or a Spirit bomb like in Goku. Maybe it might be the combined of everyone chakra into one person equal the power of the fruit's chakra. Haha! But definitely can't beat him like this even if Naruto takes Madara's left eye and gets Yin Kurama and team up with Sasuke.
There is too much contradictions. Aren't there a phrase where Kakashi mentioned "the new generation will surpass the old." But now I think about it, Madara lived in the war times with a great amount of life and death fighting experience and decades of experiences. How can people who just go on a few mission (Naruto) or being an assassin/killing-people (Sasuke) can be compared to Madara. Madara's Sunano can slice mountains when he don't have Rinnegan.
Even if Madara doesn't become the juubi's jinchuuriki or gets his left back, it is still hard for combined of the hokages, current Kages, naruto and Sasuke to beat Madara. Plus the 1st and 2nd is down, Naruto lost Kurama, 4th lost an arm, and Garra is busy with Naruto. It won't make sense Sasuke suddenly can beat him even with the combine of the rest of kages. I see that Madara can easily combine with Juubi whenever he wants to. So even if Sasuke knock him down or awakens his Rinnegan to fight, Madara can still Combine with Juubi. Can anyone tell me how can we beat this Madara and how about Sage of six path Madara (combined with Juubi)?
I don't even know why Madara continue powering up with Hashimara's cells and Sage mode when the orginal Madara with Rinnegan is stronger than the 5 kagas, and the Main characters (Naruto and Sasuke). Yet he can still power up with Juubi when the main characters are losing. I really never watch a story where the side that has an upper hand continues to gain more powers to double his strength while combine power of the other side can't even touch him yet.
I hope Kishi won't make any weird things like Sasuke looks like Madara's Brother and paused a moment and got stab in the heart or Naruto pick up a fruit from the god tree or a Spirit bomb like in Goku. Maybe it might be the combined of everyone chakra into one person equal the power of the fruit's chakra. Haha! But definitely can't beat him like this even if Naruto takes Madara's left eye and gets Yin Kurama and team up with Sasuke.
Gold Lightning
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Re: finally the time has arrieved
Besides the important part is that Ay in V2 was not able to react afterwards whatsoever, despite having enhanced reflexes and speed.
true, but it's not like Bee came out unscathed. Minato still took a chunk of his tentacle away. If Bee came out unscathed then it would have been more impressive; plus we don't know how long be was preparing his counter attack off panel, he migot have launched his tentacle the moment Minato tossed his kunai up and just reached his brother. I doubt it was the moment when Minato was on Ays back, I dint believe his tentacle travelled that far From that moment.
Besides the important part is that Ay in V2 was not able to react afterwards whatsoever, despite having enhanced reflexes and speed.
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Re: finally the time has arrieved
Im not saying Minato would have done any better against Madara in that situation, but Minato's FTG > Tobirama's FTG
Im not saying Minato would have done any better against Madara in that situation, but Minato's FTG > Tobirama's FTG
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The chakra disruption poles suck!!!
Madara seems to have endless supply of chakra disruption rods.
Hasihrama and Tobirama are out of action simply by these silly rods, they are ridiculous.
what's the drawback in using these rods ffs. Now if remember correctly jiraiya got stabbed by these rods and pa frog pulled it out. So it seems a senjutsu user is able to touch without getting disrupted in the process. ALso Naruto while in sage mode pulled them out of deva pain's body without getting disrupted.
In fact Naruto used the rods to track down nagato's location by pumping senjutsu chakra into the rods to nagato.
There doesn't seem to negatives in using these rods which is unheard of in the series, there's always a drawback in the techniques shown in the series.
Any ideas on how the good gusy can deal with these rods?
The sages left in action is hopefully Naruto(for the future) and orocihmaru with his snake sage chakra(he took back the senjutsu chakra kabuto had) and the toad sages possible even the snake sage aswell.
Madara seems to have endless supply of chakra disruption rods.
Hasihrama and Tobirama are out of action simply by these silly rods, they are ridiculous.
what's the drawback in using these rods ffs. Now if remember correctly jiraiya got stabbed by these rods and pa frog pulled it out. So it seems a senjutsu user is able to touch without getting disrupted in the process. ALso Naruto while in sage mode pulled them out of deva pain's body without getting disrupted.
In fact Naruto used the rods to track down nagato's location by pumping senjutsu chakra into the rods to nagato.
There doesn't seem to negatives in using these rods which is unheard of in the series, there's always a drawback in the techniques shown in the series.
Any ideas on how the good gusy can deal with these rods?
The sages left in action is hopefully Naruto(for the future) and orocihmaru with his snake sage chakra(he took back the senjutsu chakra kabuto had) and the toad sages possible even the snake sage aswell.
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Re: finally the time has arrieved
For people who are saying that Madara cannot defeat Tobirama without Senjutsu, stop. With his EMS he was able to duke it out till the end with Hashirama; even when he was using beastly Senjutsu techniques. Madara is saying that he waited a long time for this because Tobirama is no longer under the protection of his older brother.
For people who are saying that Madara cannot defeat Tobirama without Senjutsu, stop. With his EMS he was able to duke it out till the end with Hashirama; even when he was using beastly Senjutsu techniques. Madara is saying that he waited a long time for this because Tobirama is no longer under the protection of his older brother.
Re: finally the time has arrieved
I thought he used it when Obito took his arm but I went back and checked and it seems he didn't, but I seriously doubt Minato's ftg can succeed where Tobirama's failed.
Re: The chakra disruption poles suck!!!
Well hypothetically there is. It was because of these same rods that Naruto was able to find nagato and because of these same rods that Nagato was shocked by Kurama's chakra. Ofc, this drawback would take effect in normal people, but Madara is so strong so it's not like that there is a person with powerful enough chakra that could make a similar impact on him the same way Naruto did to nagato by allowing Kurama's chakra to reach him.
Well hypothetically there is. It was because of these same rods that Naruto was able to find nagato and because of these same rods that Nagato was shocked by Kurama's chakra. Ofc, this drawback would take effect in normal people, but Madara is so strong so it's not like that there is a person with powerful enough chakra that could make a similar impact on him the same way Naruto did to nagato by allowing Kurama's chakra to reach him.
Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come
Hello guys, I just read the lastest chapter and Madara and Tobirama were great bosses. Comming straight to my point, the most interesting thing I noticed is Madara just glanced at Sasuke with His Rinnegan and Sasuke got frozen in mid air.... what a baddass Rinnegan's new ability or maybe it is just exclusive to Madara. Either way if I am right then Madara and Sage of six paths both can do that as they are only known natural wielders of the Rinnegan.
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^^ Just one glance of Madara's rinnegan and Sasuke get frozen in mid air. True epic move
^^ Sasuke can not move and is suprised by this. Besides They are even signs of trying to move but being unable to around Sasuke's body.
Every new Rinnegan's ability is always welcome. That new freezing movement ability, really amazing. Basically you can not fight with him in close combat or you get frozen with just once glance.
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Hello guys, I just read the lastest chapter and Madara and Tobirama were great bosses. Comming straight to my point, the most interesting thing I noticed is Madara just glanced at Sasuke with His Rinnegan and Sasuke got frozen in mid air.... what a baddass Rinnegan's new ability or maybe it is just exclusive to Madara. Either way if I am right then Madara and Sage of six paths both can do that as they are only known natural wielders of the Rinnegan.
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^^ Just one glance of Madara's rinnegan and Sasuke get frozen in mid air. True epic move
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^^ Sasuke can not move and is suprised by this. Besides They are even signs of trying to move but being unable to around Sasuke's body.
Every new Rinnegan's ability is always welcome
. That new freezing movement ability, really amazing. Basically you can not fight with him in close combat or you get frozen with just once glance.Thanks for reading
Please share your thoughts
Gold Lightning
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Re: finally the time has arrieved
Anyway Im not disagreeing with you. Madara will fodderize anyone right now but from what we've seen, minatos ftg does sseem to be in a different league to Tobiramas as well as their shunshin which Minato surpasses him in. I honestly think Minato would have done better, especially if he marked around madara with his kunai.
I knew he didn't use FTG, thought I was going mad lol
Anyway Im not disagreeing with you. Madara will fodderize anyone right now but from what we've seen, minatos ftg does sseem to be in a different league to Tobiramas as well as their shunshin which Minato surpasses him in. I honestly think Minato would have done better, especially if he marked around madara with his kunai.
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