[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 623 Discussion and 624 Predictions

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Good chapter. I actually like this so much more than the so-called war arc so far. Sure, it's cliché, and it's redundant to know their backstory considering what we already know, and it seems like a lame way to shoehorn in Ninja who maybe should have been showed more (Tobirama) and people who just shouldn't be shown at all (Izuna).

Still, Hashirama's flashback so far is much better than every single chapter in the war arc.

Although Hashirama's and Madara's relationship makes Sasuke's and Naruto's bonds seem...well...pathetic. Hashirama and Madara trained together, messed around and planned their future (he...he...heh...), while Naruto and Sasuke went on one mission together, took the Chunin Exams together and just hated one another. I would have prefered it if Naruto and Sasuke had this kind of relationship instead, considering they're main characters and the entire story is based on getting Sasuke back...
Are you serious" Madara & Hashirama all they did was throw some rocks across the water and spar not showing their full power and talk about thing they wanted to do. Naruto & Susuke always had respect for each other, because of both being the only orphan in a happy to have both parents village(other than maybe Neji). They train together, took test together, went on mission together, save each other life many time and had one of the most epic battle any two 13 year old kid's had in Narutoverse, because they care about each other(with Naruto pulling out nine tale cloak and Sasuke reaching stage two sharingan and using the curse mark). That sound like two people who are closer than friend, but more like brother.

So sorry you need to pick your head up out of Madara & Hashirama lap and give Naruto & Sasuke relationship some credit(because the idea that Madara, who had 3 brother die by the hands of senju, as soon as when ever he find out that Hashirama was a senju, will not aleast tell him not to meet up with him no more, yet alone kill him, or stay with his Brother and Dad to fight is a little far fetch, because they haven't been through half the situations that Naruto & Sasuke been through together in their relationship, even if I am OK with the plot).
 
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It was a good chapter and I am liking this memory arc even better than I thought. I was just expecting Hashirama's memories about fighting Madara but this is so much more and so unexpected. Their relationship is very unusual even for a Naruto world. They are not a mirror of Sasuke-Naruto.

About the chapter...we clearly are seeing the masterminds behind the leaf village, Hashirama, Madara and Tobirama, which is awesome...the heart (Hashi and Madara) and the mind (Tobirama). This next fight will be great as we are going to see Tobirama's and Izuna's abilities when they were young which will let us gauge a bit their power. I am also curious about their fathers, especially the Senju one...can he use wood jutsu or is it really just exclusive to Hashirama? (since even his brother can't use it and thus, it's not a senju jutsu). Of course Izuna won't die here but it raises the question...who the hell is going to kill him in the future and make Madara go to the dark side?

Also...expecting present Madara to show some feelings when Sasuke appears because he is like Izuna.
 

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well the last chapters really bring in the action VERY SLOWLY.
What dose Sasuke needs to understand .. well that is a pretty blunt message.
1st to protect the children/future
2nd peace between two individuals can be achieved if they can see in each others heart, in the way Sasuke and Naruto can while they fight.
basically Sasuke will understand and face the same situation/idea as Madagara, and he needs to make his own judgement... and hopefully he won't join Madagara, because to ensure the future u need to make children... and that is not possible in a infinite genjutsu . (funny fact: he need to understand that he has to rebuild the Uchita clan from zero, whit no hate but love, he need to ensure the future of his clan... that means many many chicks :) )

My prediction for 624 no father can die here because that will mean a child will also die and we know all this 4 children will die. the next episode of magna should bring up a revelation in the heart of the fathers to make peace or a size fire. But then this all looks like Hashirama and Madagara will not see each other again for long time and that means NO PEACE. So actualy Kishi can turn this story any direction.
worst case scenario: hashirama save's Madagara or izuna form a killing blow and his father gets hurt but not killed
 

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From what I am gathering is Hashi and Mad share the same feelings, ideas, and personalities are similar; where Tob and Izuna share the same Qualities and even there fathers possess the same manner of detail. But I do have to say that if it was not for the recklessness of what may have happen I think the Ninja nation might have not been so bad.
 
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Does it mean that Tobirama and Izuna spent more time on the battlefield than Madara and Hashirama since they both (Tobirama and Izuna) both knew each other upon arrival unlike Madara and Hashirama (who didn't know each other till their father's ordered them to kill)?
 
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I thought it was a great chapter for a flashback. I think its a little soon for it to be a death of izuna. Maybe the death of one of the father's or both. And this is gonna answer Sasuke's question because its going to explain how they came up with the idea of the village and how they established it from the ground up.
 

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Interesting stuff, Hashi and Madara seem really cool about each other which makes me wonder y they would clash so many times as adults since they were getting on so well. It kinda reminds me of another complex relationship.......Professor X and Magneto. In the sense that they both respect each other highly and even want the same thing except are going about it differently. Hashi takes on the qualities of Prof X and Madara takes after Magneto. Madara wants peace as well but might be more inclined to get it but gaining power and crushing opposition. Hashi on the other hand wants dialog and restraint. Anyone else think so? Even after all their battles Madara considers Hashi worthy of respect but wouldnt hold back in taking him down to achieve his goal. Also we should all know the kids wont die, as far as the fathers though that could go either way but i gotta admit Tobirama just comes out looking so cool. His panel was after izuna's but he still came out on top, head gear and all. He's been getting a lot of backlash for creating edo and his attitude but i just see a strong, dedicated and focused character. Looking forward to his fight as well as Hashi and Madara's involvement.
 

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This manga shows that Hashirama Idolized Madara and looked up at him like a big brother and Madara looked at him as a little brother this page expresses that feeling
 
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To those of you saying that Izuna will die, or Tobirama going all out.
That won't happen, they're both kids and besides Izuna has to grow an adult, obtain the Mangekyou, give it to Madara and then die.

Overall I'd give this chapter a 4/5, it was good and entertaining but the one week break just killed the mood for me.

Not related to this chapter but I have a question.
Didn't Yamato get implanted into the Gedou statue?
We've been told a while ago that the Gedou Mazou is the physical body of the Juubi (correct me if I'm wrong), so wouldn't that make
Yamato part of the Juubi?
 

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There is no place that it states that Madara's 4 dead brothers were killed by the Senju clan.
So sorry you need to pick your head up out of Madara & Hashirama lap and give Naruto & Sasuke relationship some credit(because the idea that Madara, who had 3 brother die by the hands of senju, as soon as when ever he find out that Hashirama was a senju, will not aleast tell him not to meet up with him no more, yet alone kill him, or stay with his Brother and Dad to fight is a little far fetch, because they haven't been through half the situations that Naruto & Sasuke been through together in their relationship, even if I am OK with the plot).
 

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That is possible. Also Tobimara at least we know has better sensing abilities than Hashirama.
Does it mean that Tobirama and Izuna spent more time on the battlefield than Madara and Hashirama since they both (Tobirama and Izuna) both knew each other upon arrival unlike Madara and Hashirama (who didn't know each other till their father's ordered them to kill)?
 

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Was alright chapter looking forward to see were this goes what will happen next wouldnt mind if next week is last chapter of their past i'm so looking forward to see the war-arc again =)
 

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good chapter! nice touch in the last page makes overall good, at that time people won't listen from weak people then you should have beast power to talk and convince the other, so the bettle between senju and uciha will go on till both of them (hashi and madara) has something special among their people, then people will listen them... both clan will come to peace but, still some of them have revenge, it can't be help! imagine, you strive for long time and you got your family and your buddies died before, perhaps izuna is one of them, who has hatred in his heart, to take revenge! to do coup! it's just my prediction anyway
 
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